It's incredible to think that those rocks impacted each other at about 2-3km per hour they think
So at one point they were orbiting each other within the distance you could have played a game of catch from one to the other for a few minutes
I think the quote they used was something like, "Slow enough - and Ultima and Thule are already dirty enough - that you wouldn't even call insurance if they were cars."
CNN cropped the crap out of the full image, possibly as part of their congenital inability to report on anything scientific without screwing it up somehow.
The CNSA's logo is science-fiction as all hell.
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I love the lander bits at the top of the photo that look like it could be a spaceship far above, making the overlay look potentially like a HUD booting up.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
I enjoyed Stern's stressing the importance of STEAM and not just STEM at today's New Horizons conference in terms of the visuals some of the grad students in the project are putting together to communicate stuff about Ultima Thule.
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CNN cropped the crap out of the full image, possibly as part of their congenital inability to report on anything scientific without screwing it up somehow.
The CNSA's logo is stolen directly from Star Fleet and the United Federation of Planets
A lens screen in an effort to protect the lens from direct exposure to sunlight, and failure (or not bothering to) include color-correction filters behind that
I love that rover. Bits and bobs everywhere and oversized solar arrays sticking out the sides where they take up less chassis surface area... Far more Kerbal than NASA's designs, even if in my heart I know it can't hold a candle to Curiosity with it's lasers and robotic selfie stick and Johnny 5 style rotating multitool, I'm just pretty sure I have the same rover abandoned on Minmus or Ike.
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Not a deep-space planetoid encounter, nor the far side of the moon, but the first Crew Dragon vertical on the pad with a Falcon 9 underneath it is still pretty neat!
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Something that was only lightly touched on in that CNN article on Chang'e 4: one of the experiments on-board is seeing how plants grow on the Moon. This hasn't actually been done before, all plant growing experiments have been in orbital stations. Possibly even just the ISS?
So for the first time there are Earth plants growing on a world that isn't Earth.
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Something that was only lightly touched on in that CNN article on Chang'e 4: one of the experiments on-board is seeing how plants grow on the Moon. This hasn't actually been done before, all plant growing experiments have been in orbital stations. Possibly even just the ISS?
So for the first time there are Earth plants growing on a world that isn't Earth.
Yep! I believe it's only been done on the ISS previously, though record-keeping for what they got up to on Mir is not exactly ... robust :P
Something that was only lightly touched on in that CNN article on Chang'e 4: one of the experiments on-board is seeing how plants grow on the Moon. This hasn't actually been done before, all plant growing experiments have been in orbital stations. Possibly even just the ISS?
So for the first time there are Earth plants growing on a world that isn't Earth.
Yep! I believe it's only been done on the ISS previously, though record-keeping for what they got up to on Mir is not exactly ... robust :P
Things kinda got wild in the later years
Not really. :P We have records of the mini-greenhouse (really, really mini) operated on Salyut 7. Plants were grown on Skylab.
Mir had an entire greenhouse (really, really mini) sub-module, SVET, aboard the Kristall module. Multiple Kosmos satellites (a joint Eastern Bloc program, some involved capitalist nations too) carried plants, including corn, which technically grew...though not very much...along with tiny salamanders and similar creatures.
Growing stuff in orbit is old news On another terrestrial body though? I've never heard of any of the Soviet landers doing that, despite even returning tiny samples, nor the Apollo missions. It's a big deal.
EDIT: Ah, here's the article I was looking for--the Salyut mission cosmonauts really liked their plants, to the point of including them in the TV broadcasts back to Earth. originally they were part of the scientific program, but the space agency realized that growing the plants was actually very good for morale, and the cosmonauts joked that they spoiled the plants with "too much water." And yes, they even got permission to eat some of them (onions).
Something that was only lightly touched on in that CNN article on Chang'e 4: one of the experiments on-board is seeing how plants grow on the Moon. This hasn't actually been done before, all plant growing experiments have been in orbital stations. Possibly even just the ISS?
So for the first time there are Earth plants growing on a world that isn't Earth.
If I remember correctly there's a half-dozen animal and plant species in the biosphere experiment, so it will be the first complex flora and fauna to grow offworld.
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Does this mean the Chinese will have officially colonized the moon?
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Does this mean the Chinese will have officially colonized the moon?
With silkworms, but yes! :P
As long as they outlast the last moon astronauts, who were on the surface for a few days!
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I don't know if I mentioned it here - I certainly mentioned it in [chat] - but a plot point of Andy Weir's Artemis is the value of [REDACTED] that can only be manufactured on the Moon, which is part of the reason they establish a moonbase / city in the first place
This is the future I want, and I'm fine with it being Moonsilk! :P
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The point-blank images are going to be something else.
Well, the slope there is high enough that you'll start rolling, so ... bouncy?
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They mentioned that it's consistent with having a bunch of powdery debris laying around, likely from the initial contact.
Also, it's been confirmed that Ultima Thule is not, in fact, a snowman - it's BB-8.
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So at one point they were orbiting each other within the distance you could have played a game of catch from one to the other for a few minutes
The scientists' response was basically, "Fuck the Nazis, they can't have our cool name."
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I think the quote they used was something like, "Slow enough - and Ultima and Thule are already dirty enough - that you wouldn't even call insurance if they were cars."
Car analogies: Even rocket scientists use them!
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China has made an announcement of their own earlier this morning, however, to insert themselves back into the space exploration conversation:
China's Chang'e 4 has successfully touched down on the far side of the moon!
Apologies for the CNN link, but here's the money shot we're all interested in, via the Associated Press:
The first image from the far side of the moon!
The CNSA's logo is science-fiction as all hell.
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A lens screen in an effort to protect the lens from direct exposure to sunlight, and failure (or not bothering to) include color-correction filters behind that
So for the first time there are Earth plants growing on a world that isn't Earth.
Yep! I believe it's only been done on the ISS previously, though record-keeping for what they got up to on Mir is not exactly ... robust :P
Things kinda got wild in the later years
Not really. :P We have records of the mini-greenhouse (really, really mini) operated on Salyut 7. Plants were grown on Skylab.
Mir had an entire greenhouse (really, really mini) sub-module, SVET, aboard the Kristall module. Multiple Kosmos satellites (a joint Eastern Bloc program, some involved capitalist nations too) carried plants, including corn, which technically grew...though not very much...along with tiny salamanders and similar creatures.
Growing stuff in orbit is old news On another terrestrial body though? I've never heard of any of the Soviet landers doing that, despite even returning tiny samples, nor the Apollo missions. It's a big deal.
EDIT: Ah, here's the article I was looking for--the Salyut mission cosmonauts really liked their plants, to the point of including them in the TV broadcasts back to Earth. originally they were part of the scientific program, but the space agency realized that growing the plants was actually very good for morale, and the cosmonauts joked that they spoiled the plants with "too much water." And yes, they even got permission to eat some of them (onions).
If I remember correctly there's a half-dozen animal and plant species in the biosphere experiment, so it will be the first complex flora and fauna to grow offworld.
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With silkworms, but yes! :P
As long as they outlast the last moon astronauts, who were on the surface for a few days!
No. Though if the lander's compartments breach they will have--in a very limited sense--begun teraforming it.
Coming soon, Ms MIN Lunar Silk fall fashions
I don't know if I mentioned it here - I certainly mentioned it in [chat] - but a plot point of Andy Weir's Artemis is the value of [REDACTED] that can only be manufactured on the Moon, which is part of the reason they establish a moonbase / city in the first place
This is the future I want, and I'm fine with it being Moonsilk! :P