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Assassin's Creed

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    This is one of those games where I am having trouble distinguishing the real side content from the repeatable or procedurally generated stuff. There's so many quests in my log, some have timers and some don't. Some I just picked up off a board and don't really have a lot of context. Some are just "sink 5 Athenian ships". Hard to know what to work on.

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited January 8
    Your quest log should have some useful filters, anything labelled "Bounty" or with a timer can probably be ignored. The 'Odyssey' quests are your main quests, 'Region / Person' or whatever is most of the interesting side stuff.

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  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    captaink wrote: »
    This is one of those games where I am having trouble distinguishing the real side content from the repeatable or procedurally generated stuff. There's so many quests in my log, some have timers and some don't. Some I just picked up off a board and don't really have a lot of context. Some are just "sink 5 Athenian ships". Hard to know what to work on.

    Normal quests are the gold diamonds with an exclamation mark.

    There are grey diamonds with an arrow the branches at the top and these are little quests that deal with one of your previous choices in the game.

    Diamonds with a timer are repeatable.

    Generally I've not bothered with anything that has a timer on it. I've never used the special store that those types of questions give currency for.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Is that what the branch icons are? Huh

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  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    Of the bit I played, Hard mode isn’t messing around, huh? I went into a cave on my way to the first quest, saw some level 2 baddies and figured I could take them with my level 1 self... nope. 1 hit and I had my first death.... maybe 10 minutes in.

    I’m sure this gets easier as I get gear and remember how to play, but it certainly felt like the game was making a statement on how careless I was not allowed to be (and it wasn’t even the highest difficulty).

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    My favorite branch quest that was someone lamenting how much their life sucked since their brother had been killed. Telling them I was the one who killed their brother was probably not the way to get the most xp out of it but it was the most satisfying.

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  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    This is one of those games where I am having trouble distinguishing the real side content from the repeatable or procedurally generated stuff. There's so many quests in my log, some have timers and some don't. Some I just picked up off a board and don't really have a lot of context. Some are just "sink 5 Athenian ships". Hard to know what to work on.

    Normal quests are the gold diamonds with an exclamation mark.

    There are grey diamonds with an arrow the branches at the top and these are little quests that deal with one of your previous choices in the game.

    Diamonds with a timer are repeatable.

    Generally I've not bothered with anything that has a timer on it. I've never used the special store that those types of questions give currency for.

    I haven't bothered with the ones off the boards either (diamond with lines in it). Same with the board on the ship.

    There's plenty of normal quests for your xp needs. I've not struggled for money, materials or weapons either.

    I don't think there's an option to abandon quests which is annoying.

    My suggestion is just try to clear your current quests and let the ones on the timer expired once you have a clearer quest log you can focus on the bits you want to do.

    For example when I got bored of quests I hunted down mercenaries so I could move to a higher tier with better rewards.

    I would then go after cultists, then go clearing points of interest and so on. The game will drag if you just focus on one aspect.

  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    i'm playing syndicate at the moment and this business of slowly converting the entire franchise away from a stealth game into a grindable rpg seems super unimpressive to me

    like at some point they realised they were never going to be able to design an actual functioning stealth system and just gave up

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Syndicate is a weird bird because they introduced a bunch of stuff that they never iterated on because they took the year break after that
    when it comes back as Origins it's even more of an RPG but at least it feels like a competent one

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The stealth system in Origins and Odyssey is functional in that stealth is almost laughably easy.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Looks like level scaling will be adjustable starting from this month's update. Hard (they match your level), normal, easy (two levels below), and very easy (four levels below).

    Also a new shop where you can buy some engravings, and get others to tier 6/7.

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    man, I love this game

    looking for more archers for the weekly quest. Wander up to a camp; as I'm scouting with Ikaros, a bear happens by and gets everyone's attention. While they're dealing with that problem, I sneak in the back and kill the archer; then make my escape.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    New patch is out, btw. I haven't tried the new free quest yet, but I did take a spin to the new engraving shop.

    Engravings that are maxed out can have two additional tiers purchased for 30k and 60k. Considering how many engravings there are, it's a fair chunk of pocket change to max them all out.

    There is now an S1 and S2 Mercenary tier. Didn't have a chance to see if they were not able harder or not.

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    Kind of cool - where most stuff will say 'dismantle', legendary items have 'hold rmb to equip set'

    ... which naturally makes me want to create my own sets, so I can more easily switch between my 'running around' gear and my 'boss / conquest battle' gear.

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    Kind of cool - where most stuff will say 'dismantle', legendary items have 'hold rmb to equip set'

    ... which naturally makes me want to create my own sets, so I can more easily switch between my 'running around' gear and my 'boss / conquest battle' gear.

    Wait, shit is that new or have I totally been switching legendary set pieces manually like a chump all this time?!

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  • htmhtm Registered User regular
    I read a funny semi-editorial on the joys of AC:Odyssey. It's all pretty trite stuff, but one quote really stood out:

    "Nothing has hated me as much as this boar does."

    Amen, brother, and nothing else ever will.

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  • htmhtm Registered User regular
    edited January 12
    Just saw the teaser for January Odyssey content.

    That Athena armor, though. Also, the next free DLC story is set in Lalaïa, which is the insanely beautiful little village in north Phokis with the burbling stream running right through it and the blooming wisteria trees all around.

    The difficulty scaling settings and new merc tiers sound cool.

    The post-launch support for Odyssey has been pretty great. It feels weird, thinking nice things about Ubi.

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    Kind of cool - where most stuff will say 'dismantle', legendary items have 'hold rmb to equip set'

    ... which naturally makes me want to create my own sets, so I can more easily switch between my 'running around' gear and my 'boss / conquest battle' gear.

    Wait, shit is that new or have I totally been switching legendary set pieces manually like a chump all this time?!

    it's definitely new, or at least newish. I can't prove it but I think it popped up with this patch.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    That Athena armor is a little bit cheesecakey for my tastes, but "horse with dreads" is definitely something I'm into

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited January 12
    after completing the majority of the content pre-dlc, I picked up a handful of abilities*. With a crit, I can one-shot mercenaries.

    Which is both hilarious and cathartic.

    after the patch introduced the new ranks, I've spent some time clearing forts, killing leaders, and generally making a visible nuisance of myself. Last night one of the new mercenaries showed up.

    They don't seem to be any harder. I didn't get a crit (despite, you know, a 62% chance), which was a little sad; but he went away without much trouble.

    * shadow assassin: 3/3, crit assassin: 3/3, death veil; and I maxed the masteries for crit chance and crit chance at full health. So now that 62 should be 67.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 15
    I haven't played the DLC, but some players are mad that it forces a straight romance. The whole thing feels very odd given how Ubisoft allowed people to play Kassandra in the story in the main game and then have DLC that railroads the player regardless of however they have been playing Kassandra before. This isn't like Origins where Bayek was pretty set in that way from the start to the end of the story and it was an important part of the story throughout the game. The way the animus works in the story was even made so they don't need to be concerned about the main character having children like in the early games.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/ag2ugv/spoiler_the_dlc_ending_rant/

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    I expected something like that when I saw the patch notes refer to "Neema / Natakas"
    The way the animus works in the story was even made so they don't need to be concerned about the main character having children like in the early games.

    I would suggest that perhaps Darius's line needs to continue; and specifically needs ... er, a contribution, from Kassandra's Precursor heritage.

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    I haven't played the DLC, but some players are mad that it forces a straight romance. The whole thing feels very odd given how Ubisoft allowed people to play Kassandra in the story in the main game and then have DLC that railroads the player regardless of however they have been playing Kassandra before. This isn't like Origins where Bayek was pretty set in that way from the start to the end of the story and it was an important part of the story throughout the game. The way the animus works in the story was even made so they don't need to be concerned about the main character having children like in the early games.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/ag2ugv/spoiler_the_dlc_ending_rant/
    This is super shitty, goddamn

    Like I enjoyed Odyssey and my Kassandra was bi so it wouldn't be erasure in my specific playthrough but the fact rhat it forces
    her to have a kid
    is just a dogshit way to treat the most popular woman lead the franchise has had

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    Erm, how did they get rid of the logical "necessity" of having every character you can play as be a direct ancestor of someone?

    Also is this not the only woman lead the franchise has ever had? I missed a few in the middle there...

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Erm, how did they get rid of the logical "necessity" of having every character you can play as be a direct ancestor of someone?

    Also is this not the only woman lead the franchise has ever had? I missed a few in the middle there...
    Nah, Evie was a lead in Syndicate and Aveline was in Liberation

    And Odyssey explicitly has the DNA used for the animus be recovered off of Leonidas' spear and the animus no longer requires the user to be a descendant

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Erm, how did they get rid of the logical "necessity" of having every character you can play as be a direct ancestor of someone?

    Also is this not the only woman lead the franchise has ever had? I missed a few in the middle there...

    Syndicate had a brother and sister as the two playable characters and the non-mainline title Liberation had a black female protagonist.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    I expected something like that when I saw the patch notes refer to "Neema / Natakas"
    The way the animus works in the story was even made so they don't need to be concerned about the main character having children like in the early games.

    I would suggest that perhaps Darius's line needs to continue; and specifically needs ... er, a contribution, from Kassandra's Precursor heritage.

    Precursor magic is an easy enough explanation.

  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    This sucks and suddenly I don't care about assassin's creed ever again.

  • htmhtm Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    This sucks and suddenly I don't care about assassin's creed ever again.

    Yeah, done with AC unless Ubi admits their stupidity and patches that shit out. It's egregiously disrespectful to gay players, shits all over the agency of all players, and doesn't even make sense in terms of the story/ongoing gameplay.

    Like... there so many better ways they could have written things and they went with... that.

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  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Erm, how did they get rid of the logical "necessity" of having every character you can play as be a direct ancestor of someone?

    Also is this not the only woman lead the franchise has ever had? I missed a few in the middle there...
    Nah, Evie was a lead in Syndicate and Aveline was in Liberation

    And Odyssey explicitly has the DNA used for the animus be recovered off of Leonidas' spear and the animus no longer requires the user to be a descendant

    AC Chronicles China also had Shao Jun.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    I can see how they thought this was okay, given the lack of choice in any other Assassin's Creed game, and given how they generally handle their stories. It is fucked that nobody spent even three seconds thinking about the implications of this story. Full stop. At the very least, they need to issue an apology for fucking this up. I have no idea if or how they fix it in-game.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    It wouldn't bother me as much, though I can see why it is a huge letdown to some players, but the romance character is so fuckinf dull. Kassandra is this badass mercenary and the guy is nice but he's just so boring and looks like a damn kid. He doesn't feel like kassandras equal.

    Not sure how the female character is, but yeah it's bullshit. Even if the heteronormative thing wasn't so egregious, it just doesn't feel like it works at all for her character, no matter what your choices have been throughout the game

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Ubisoft responded to Kotaku's inquiry on the backlash
    “We strive to give players choice whenever possible in Odyssey and apologize to those surprised by the events in this episode,” the statement said. “Without spoiling it, you will engage in an important relationship as part of a set story. The motivation behind this relationship is yours to explore in game and will be reflected in your character’s story arc. There is one episode left in Legacy of the First Blade which will tie your character’s actions together.”

    Hrmmmm nnnnnope

    Saying you strive to give players a choice when the option is literally forced and then going WAIT NO THERE'S ANOTHER EPISODE YOU NEED TO PLAY THAT TO GET THE FULL CONTEXT is a real shitty response, apology or no

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Honestly it's a well done ending, just not for Kassandra, like it feels like something that would have been nice for the end of Bayeks story. And it would work if she was a restricted character, but it is a major choice that doesn't even really feel in keeping with the way any playthrough of her is done. It's well done and works if it was self contained, but it's super odd as part of the eagle bearer storyline

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    On another note is there a new legendary armour set for this episode? If so how do you get it?

    Also is there any way to save
    the tempest? She was a more interesting character to me than Darius son, who's name I can't even remember despite just finishing the episode

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  • htmhtm Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Ubisoft responded to Kotaku's inquiry on the backlash
    “We strive to give players choice whenever possible in Odyssey and apologize to those surprised by the events in this episode,” the statement said. “Without spoiling it, you will engage in an important relationship as part of a set story. The motivation behind this relationship is yours to explore in game and will be reflected in your character’s story arc. There is one episode left in Legacy of the First Blade which will tie your character’s actions together.”

    Hrmmmm nnnnnope

    Saying you strive to give players a choice when the option is literally forced and then going WAIT NO THERE'S ANOTHER EPISODE YOU NEED TO PLAY THAT TO GET THE FULL CONTEXT is a real shitty response, apology or no

    How can a player not be surprised? Is there any point in the main story where the protagonist says they want to start a family and raise kids?

    Also, the name of the achievement for having a child with a sexual partner you quite possibly explicitly rejected is, I shit you not... "Growing Up". In UbiLand, no one's an adult until they have at least one kid with a partner they don't love.

    The only real mitigating factor to all this stupid is that that particular DLC episode wasn't created by the Ubi's Montreal studio, which created the main story. In fact, Mel MacCoubrey, the AC Odyssey narrative lead (who is super cool), is refusing to comment or answer questions about it on Twitter. I'm guessing the original writers must be pretty appalled.

  • VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    Welp, my time playing Odyssey with Project Stream just ran out.

    I had just finished the Spartan Kings mission and was doing the Battle of Pylos mission.
    Get in a fight with Alexios. A burning tree falls on him. I yell that I'm going to help him, and a burning tree falls on me.

    The game then kicks me out and says that the game is no longer available.

    I suppose the story could end right there!

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  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    Veagle wrote: »
    Welp, my time playing Odyssey with Project Stream just ran out.

    I had just finished the Spartan Kings mission and was doing the Battle of Pylos mission.
    Get in a fight with Alexios. A burning tree falls on him. I yell that I'm going to help him, and a burning tree falls on me.

    The game then kicks me out and says that the game is no longer available.

    I suppose the story could end right there!

    Yeah. That part was...not good. It felt like they kind of ran out of time and had to rush things toward the end.

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    The actual final confrontation with him is pretty good though.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    https://kotaku.com/assassins-creed-odyssey-director-says-we-missed-the-mar-1831818690
    “Reading through player responses [to] our new DLC for Legacy of the First Blade, Shadow Heritage, we want to extend an apology to players disappointed by a relationship your character partakes in,” Odyssey creative director Jonathan Dumont said in a post on the game’s forums. “The intention of this story was to explain how your character’s bloodline has a lasting impact on the Assassins, but looking through your responses it is clear that we missed the mark.”

    He went on to say that players will not have to continue the romantic relationship in the next installment of the game’s DLC, saying the developers wanted players to have the option of deciding that their character choice to procreate was a utilitarian decision rather than a romantic one.
    OK, but that bloodline stuff was also really creepy and unneeded.

    The weird eugenics stuff was never great in Assassin's Creed and they should have ditched it as soon as possible.

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