VariableMouth CongressStroke Me Lady FameRegistered Userregular
oh the rewatchables podcast hit off 2019 with a Godfather episode. it was really good! if you enjoy that show/the ringer/bill simmons. and if you don't I understand! but I do.
While I don't think either of the pair are completely pure, I found Weisz far more sympathetic than Stone. I think Stone liked the idea of being loved, and had some affection for the queen, but mostly I feel she was just caught up in the game and prestige of it all.
Weisz, on the other hand, seemed to genuinely love the queen. When she stood outside her door telling her that always being honest is love, I think she meant it. I think that, while she may have enjoyed the perks of being the old favorite, she stayed with the queen because she saw her as a dear friend.
Abigail
You can argue that she was merely fighting to rejoin the nobility, but look at what she lost when her family lost its name: not just her old life, but the protection that brought, and she suffered worst under the people who were supposed to love and protect her. Her age and gender took away any agency she might have, and she was cast into the wilderness as the underage sex slave of a passing drunken gambler.
I don’t think she wanted prestige. She wanted autonomy.
Liked both. Gaga was a surprisingly good actress, and I didn't realize that was actually Coopers singing voice till later, assumed it was dubbed.
Was very impressed with Roma, the more artsy plot lite time and place movies tend to lose me after a while, but it held me all the way through.
Tempted to go see Bohemian Rhapsody ( lol the globes)while its still in the theaters just for the sound system. Anyone have any opinions on if it is a must do? I have an okay 5.1 system at home.
Feel like I've seen nothing this last year that is going to be getting nominated, and so I'n expecting my must watch grind list to be really long this year.
The music is great, but there's nothing about the audio or video that demands a big screen. I think the performances would work just as well on the small screen, and the audio is just Queen albums. Save your money.
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While I don't think either of the pair are completely pure, I found Weisz far more sympathetic than Stone. I think Stone liked the idea of being loved, and had some affection for the queen, but mostly I feel she was just caught up in the game and prestige of it all.
Weisz, on the other hand, seemed to genuinely love the queen. When she stood outside her door telling her that always being honest is love, I think she meant it. I think that, while she may have enjoyed the perks of being the old favorite, she stayed with the queen because she saw her as a dear friend.
Abigail
You can argue that she was merely fighting to rejoin the nobility, but look at what she lost when her family lost its name: not just her old life, but the protection that brought, and she suffered worst under the people who were supposed to love and protect her. Her age and gender took away any agency she might have, and she was cast into the wilderness as the underage sex slave of a passing drunken gambler.
I don’t think she wanted prestige. She wanted autonomy.
I think that's a fair read, but I still feel that Abigail was more into the competition and perks of it all than her opponent.
Her desire for autonomy makes sense, though, and heightens the tragedy of the ending. Nobody gets what they want. Abigail is stuck catering to a crazy invalid she doesn't seem to much care for, Anne realizes she lost her best friend and that this capricious opportunist is all she has left, and Weisz (I am bad at names)
loses a friend she legit loved and also gets chased out of the country.
Sucks to be a woman in 18th century England!
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
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Now I’m kind of upset that I didn’t know The Usual Suspects had two fucking pieces of shit making and starring in it with Kevin Spacey and Brian Singer.
The music is great, but there's nothing about the audio or video that demands a big screen. I think the performances would work just as well on the small screen, and the audio is just Queen albums. Save your money.
Watch Highlander instead
Same difference
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
While I don't think either of the pair are completely pure, I found Weisz far more sympathetic than Stone. I think Stone liked the idea of being loved, and had some affection for the queen, but mostly I feel she was just caught up in the game and prestige of it all.
Weisz, on the other hand, seemed to genuinely love the queen. When she stood outside her door telling her that always being honest is love, I think she meant it. I think that, while she may have enjoyed the perks of being the old favorite, she stayed with the queen because she saw her as a dear friend.
Abigail
You can argue that she was merely fighting to rejoin the nobility, but look at what she lost when her family lost its name: not just her old life, but the protection that brought, and she suffered worst under the people who were supposed to love and protect her. Her age and gender took away any agency she might have, and she was cast into the wilderness as the underage sex slave of a passing drunken gambler.
I don’t think she wanted prestige. She wanted autonomy.
I think that's a fair read, but I still feel that Abigail was more into the competition and perks of it all than her opponent.
Her desire for autonomy makes sense, though, and heightens the tragedy of the ending. Nobody gets what they want. Abigail is stuck catering to a crazy invalid she doesn't seem to much care for, Anne realizes she lost her best friend and that this capricious opportunist is all she has left, and Weisz (I am bad at names)
loses a friend she legit loved and also gets chased out of the country.
While I don't think either of the pair are completely pure, I found Weisz far more sympathetic than Stone. I think Stone liked the idea of being loved, and had some affection for the queen, but mostly I feel she was just caught up in the game and prestige of it all.
Weisz, on the other hand, seemed to genuinely love the queen. When she stood outside her door telling her that always being honest is love, I think she meant it. I think that, while she may have enjoyed the perks of being the old favorite, she stayed with the queen because she saw her as a dear friend.
It is a deconstruction of the superhero genre and does a good job of showing what would happen if superheros were a thing in the real world. But I dunno, I was expecting to go up a gear but it never did.
James Mcavoy is fantastic and I am now sad that this is being released now as his performance will be forgotten by next year's oscars.
Hereditary was really good! I took away from it the most important message: never offer home care to an elderly relative, it's always more trouble than you think it will be.
Edit: wait, CITIZEN KANE was a good film? Now I've heard everything.
I have to rewatch Citizen Kane; I remember liking it a lot, but it didn't stay with me the way that some other classics (e.g. Sunset Boulevard or Jules et Jim) did. I do remember it feeling fresh, though - IMO it's not like you've seen all these techniques in later films so returning to the grandpappy of them all no longer has the same impact. I recently watched Welles' Touch of Evil for the first time and was struck by how... contemporary the film felt, for want of a better word. It had the old-time actors and the whole black and white thing, and sure, it's dated in some ways (*coughbrownfaceHestoncough*), but in so many others it simply doesn't feel like a product of its era but like something much more fresh and relevant and vibrant. I wouldn't be surprised if I found this as well when rewatching Citizen Kane.
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Not sure if any of the above is a joke, but from what I can gather they're talking about Stellan "Papa" Skarsgard, the naked Thor dude, not Alexander "Sonny" Skarsgard, the naked True Blood guy. The former will be in Dune as some very fine ruler indeed.
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Complain about how they're all old movies or whatever you awful philistines.
That's a solid list, my only change would be to flip Kane and Blade Runner.
Kane was such a revelation for the time, primarily it's use of placing the camera below the level of the actors, something that was pretty much never done before because it would expose the soundstages as having no roofs and make the lighting rigs stick out like a sore thumb. Wells and Toland more or less invented a new visual language and made you feel like you were in the action like the groundlings at the Globe, instead of distant observers like the chorus in an old Greek tragedy.
And having seen Lawrence in a restored 70mm print in 2017, it totally deserves to be at the top of the list. I wanted to have sex with most of it's wide shots.
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
edited January 2019
Get rid of Blade Runner. The only thing it does right is its aesthetics in costume and set design.
Edit: oh I messed up and thought I read best overall. Yeah sure the shot composition was aight.
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Best shot films? It feels like iconic moments and memorable location is getting blurred with best shot. I wouldn't even say Apocalypse Now or Godfather would be top 5. I see that 2001 was on the list but at #9, and that should have been way higher.
Complain about how they're all old movies or whatever you awful philistines.
I don't know if my top 5 would look much like that, but it's a solid list regardless. I'll have to save my hot takes for some different list.
TexiKen, make me a list so i can bag on it.
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It's also a somewhat conservative list, mind you. I love these films and they're gorgeous to look at, but it's basically the equivalent of listing the five best painters and they're all Renaissance artists. But I'd say that's what you always get when you ask a group for the best <xyz>.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
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20th Century? Sure.
Citizen Kane
2001
Lawrence of Arabia
Rashomon
Raging Bull
It's also a somewhat conservative list, mind you. I love these films and they're gorgeous to look at, but it's basically the equivalent of listing the five best painters and they're all Renaissance artists. But I'd say that's what you always get when you ask a group for the best <xyz>.
It's an American guild of cinematographers, rather than a worldwide one, so I'd expect some bias towards homegrown films.
Rashomon and Seven Samurai are in the remainder of their list (places 11-100 are not ranked, only listed in order of release).
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
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Yeah I think I’d probably switch out 2001 or Star Wars or The Shining for Apocalypse Now but other than that the list is pretty airtight. I’m not even that bothered by Apocalypse Now, honestly.
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The Top 100 list is very, very good but still omits Raiders and Star Wars, and the only Roger Deakins film on the list is Shawshank Redemption, completely ignoring Barton Fink, Fargo, and The Hudsucker Proxy.
I have to rewatch Citizen Kane; I remember liking it a lot, but it didn't stay with me the way that some other classics (e.g. Sunset Boulevard or Jules et Jim) did. I do remember it feeling fresh, though - IMO it's not like you've seen all these techniques in later films so returning to the grandpappy of them all no longer has the same impact. I recently watched Welles' Touch of Evil for the first time and was struck by how... contemporary the film felt, for want of a better word. It had the old-time actors and the whole black and white thing, and sure, it's dated in some ways (*coughbrownfaceHestoncough*), but in so many others it simply doesn't feel like a product of its era but like something much more fresh and relevant and vibrant. I wouldn't be surprised if I found this as well when rewatching Citizen Kane.
The thing about Kane that strikes me every time I watch it isn't any one thing it does particularly well but that it does so many different things.
Huge arena shots, incredible close-ups, deep shots, long shots, reverse shots, montage, in media res, it does more kinds of things than most modern films do and it does them all very very well. The other thing is the way the characters talk, they repeat themselves, they take a second to consider what they're about to say, they feel more real than a lot of scripted films do.
Yeah I'd swap Star Wars and Indiana Jones? For Apocalypse now and Blade Runner. That black and white version of Indiana Jones that was circulating a couple years back reminded me its pretty much a masterpiece.
I feel like the list besides having an "old movie" bias, also and I come at this as a lay person, but doesn't seem to really credit movies with large amounts of action for the level of skill that goes into shooting them. Citizen Kane is a masterpiece, but shooting it and shooting Fury Road. Which was also a gorgeous as fuck movie, that wasn't mostly people sitting/standing slowly walking on fixed stages.
e: didn't realize the list is just the 20th century...which just seems like an odd thing "We are celebrating our 100th anniversary, so here are the 100 best films that came out by our 81st anniversary".
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I feel like the list besides having an "old movie" bias, also and I come at this as a lay person, but doesn't seem to really credit movies with large amounts of action for the level of skill that goes into shooting them. Citizen Kane is a masterpiece, but shooting it and shooting Fury Road. Which was also a gorgeous as fuck movie, that wasn't mostly people sitting/standing slowly walking on fixed stages.
It’s a list of 20th century films and it has The Matrix on it
Citizen Kane
2001
Lawrence of Arabia
Rashomon
Raging Bull
You just got epic dab’d
Dammit, that's also not a bad list.
You have failed me.
(I actually don't recall the cinematography in Raging Bull. 2001 is gorgeous, though, even if I find it boring as snot for large stretches.)
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I don’t think she wanted prestige. She wanted autonomy.
Liked both. Gaga was a surprisingly good actress, and I didn't realize that was actually Coopers singing voice till later, assumed it was dubbed.
Was very impressed with Roma, the more artsy plot lite time and place movies tend to lose me after a while, but it held me all the way through.
Tempted to go see Bohemian Rhapsody ( lol the globes)while its still in the theaters just for the sound system. Anyone have any opinions on if it is a must do? I have an okay 5.1 system at home.
Feel like I've seen nothing this last year that is going to be getting nominated, and so I'n expecting my must watch grind list to be really long this year.
The music is great, but there's nothing about the audio or video that demands a big screen. I think the performances would work just as well on the small screen, and the audio is just Queen albums. Save your money.
Her desire for autonomy makes sense, though, and heightens the tragedy of the ending. Nobody gets what they want. Abigail is stuck catering to a crazy invalid she doesn't seem to much care for, Anne realizes she lost her best friend and that this capricious opportunist is all she has left, and Weisz (I am bad at names)
loses a friend she legit loved and also gets chased out of the country.
Sucks to be a woman in 18th century England!
Watch Highlander instead
Same difference
I completely agree.
Yeah, that was the saddest part of the movie
It is a deconstruction of the superhero genre and does a good job of showing what would happen if superheros were a thing in the real world. But I dunno, I was expecting to go up a gear but it never did.
James Mcavoy is fantastic and I am now sad that this is being released now as his performance will be forgotten by next year's oscars.
Complain about how they're all old movies or whatever you awful philistines.
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Edit: wait, CITIZEN KANE was a good film? Now I've heard everything.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
That's a solid list, my only change would be to flip Kane and Blade Runner.
Kane was such a revelation for the time, primarily it's use of placing the camera below the level of the actors, something that was pretty much never done before because it would expose the soundstages as having no roofs and make the lighting rigs stick out like a sore thumb. Wells and Toland more or less invented a new visual language and made you feel like you were in the action like the groundlings at the Globe, instead of distant observers like the chorus in an old Greek tragedy.
And having seen Lawrence in a restored 70mm print in 2017, it totally deserves to be at the top of the list. I wanted to have sex with most of it's wide shots.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Edit: oh I messed up and thought I read best overall. Yeah sure the shot composition was aight.
The people who composed the list are literally a guild of cinematographers.
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I don't know if my top 5 would look much like that, but it's a solid list regardless. I'll have to save my hot takes for some different list.
TexiKen, make me a list so i can bag on it.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Citizen Kane
2001
Lawrence of Arabia
Rashomon
Raging Bull
You just got epic dab’d
It's an American guild of cinematographers, rather than a worldwide one, so I'd expect some bias towards homegrown films.
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Rashomon and Seven Samurai are in the remainder of their list (places 11-100 are not ranked, only listed in order of release).
The thing about Kane that strikes me every time I watch it isn't any one thing it does particularly well but that it does so many different things.
Huge arena shots, incredible close-ups, deep shots, long shots, reverse shots, montage, in media res, it does more kinds of things than most modern films do and it does them all very very well. The other thing is the way the characters talk, they repeat themselves, they take a second to consider what they're about to say, they feel more real than a lot of scripted films do.
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e: didn't realize the list is just the 20th century...which just seems like an odd thing "We are celebrating our 100th anniversary, so here are the 100 best films that came out by our 81st anniversary".
It’s a list of 20th century films and it has The Matrix on it
Yeah, Considering how Ran sacrifices even plot and structure for its cinematography and the result is just gorgous looking. it should be on there.
Yeah, I saw that list and thought "Yeah, might not be the same as my list but that's a good enough top 5 I've got nothing to complain about".
Dammit, that's also not a bad list.
You have failed me.
(I actually don't recall the cinematography in Raging Bull. 2001 is gorgeous, though, even if I find it boring as snot for large stretches.)