Early line is KC by 3. It's the 7th time Belichik has been an underdog in the playoffs. 3-3 straight up so far, as well as against the spread. Two of those wins were way back in 2002 during their first Super Bowl run.
Doesn't Vegas give 3 points to a team just for having the game at home? I'd say that means the game is even, not that the Patriots are underdogs.
The Pats are at home though, so KC would be up 6 in neutral territory.
Early line is KC by 3. It's the 7th time Belichik has been an underdog in the playoffs. 3-3 straight up so far, as well as against the spread. Two of those wins were way back in 2002 during their first Super Bowl run.
Doesn't Vegas give 3 points to a team just for having the game at home? I'd say that means the game is even, not that the Patriots are underdogs.
The Pats are at home though, so KC would be up 6 in neutral territory.
KC is at home.
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Mmmyes.
3 points seems low. I guess it’s based on the Chargers embarrassing themselves buuuuut I don’t have that much faith in Belimagic.
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3 points seems low. I guess it’s based on the Chargers embarrassing themselves buuuuut I don’t have that much faith in Belimagic.
Bama lost, therefore the Pats win.
It’s science.
Where does Duke in college basketball factor into this? This is important.
Looking at Wikipedia, as far as I can see if Alabama football plays for a National Championship, Duke does not make the Final Four
No, wait - the streams crossed in 2010
Okay, since 1963 (Duke's first Final Four according to Wikipedia) 10 out of 11 times Alabama played for a championship, Duke failed to make the Final Four
Oh, and the two previous times Clemson has won a National Championship, Carolina has won the tournament (1982, 2017)
3 points seems low. I guess it’s based on the Chargers embarrassing themselves buuuuut I don’t have that much faith in Belimagic.
Could just be based on their head to head match-up. Home field is worth 3 points. Patriots beat the Chiefs by 3 when they were at home. Using Vegas logic the Chiefs would have won by three if they were the home team which is the case this time. Seems like a safe spot to start the betting.
Will that be harder for people used to Kansas weather or Massachusetts weather?
Serious question. I have no idea what an average Kansas winter is like and if they're more or less cold/windy than a Massachusetts winter.
Average low in Boston in January: 22.2. Average low in Kansas City in January: 19.6. Average high in Boston in January: 35.8. Average high in Kansas City in January: 38.0. Mean minimum in Boston in January 4.1. Mean minimum in Kansas City in January: -0.1. Mean maximum in Boston in January: 56.4. Mean maximum in Kansas City in January: 60.6. Boston also gets more precipitation and snowfall. In this particular dick measuring contest, they're about the same size. KC is a tip ahead for length, but Boston has a well rounded girth advantage.
It's supposed to be between 10 and 15 degrees in KC on Sunday, with clear skies and a light wind.
I think that New England might potentially possibly have a very slight edge. Mahomes has been very good in cold weather, but he hasn't been MVP Death Star Destroyer Frog Mahomes. He seems to become just another elite QB (who might still be better than Brady).
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Will that be harder for people used to Kansas weather or Massachusetts weather?
Serious question. I have no idea what an average Kansas winter is like and if they're more or less cold/windy than a Massachusetts winter.
Average low in Boston in January: 22.2. Average low in Kansas City in January: 19.6. Average high in Boston in January: 35.8. Average high in Kansas City in January: 38.0. Mean minimum in Boston in January 4.1. Mean minimum in Kansas City in January: -0.1. Mean maximum in Boston in January: 56.4. Mean maximum in Kansas City in January: 60.6. Boston also gets more precipitation and snowfall. In this particular dick measuring contest, they're about the same size. KC is a tip ahead for length, but Boston has a well rounded girth advantage.
It's supposed to be between 10 and 15 degrees in KC on Sunday, with clear skies and a light wind.
I think that New England might potentially possibly have a very slight edge. Mahomes has been very good in cold weather, but he hasn't been MVP Death Star Destroyer Frog Mahomes. He seems to become just another elite QB (who might still be better than Brady).
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The Giants would be lucky to get him, but they’d want some sort of assurance he’s going to play. The A’s are looking at temping him with a major league contract. As for height Russell Wilson is only 1” taller and we aren’t having conversations about his height.
Both Haskins and Murray have pretty similar stats, one is just 6’3 and the other is freakishly athletic. If i had to pick, i’d go Murray, as his threat to run will allow Saquan to put up crazy numbers. Look at what Lamar did for the Ravens run game. Also his athleticism will help with the O-line issues (see Russell Wilson).
Of course the Giants could skip both, pick up O-line help for Eli’s last year and get someone in 2020.
I have very little confidence he’s going to be good in the NFL
Good arm strength, terrible footwork and turns into a pumpkin if anyone gets close to him. Only appeared accurate because OSU’s WR group is 125% faster than anybody who covered them all year and thus were typically wide open (and firing their shitlord of a WR coach helped).
I have very little confidence he’s going to be good in the NFL
Good arm strength, terrible footwork and turns into a pumpkin if anyone gets close to him. Only appeared accurate because OSU’s WR group is 125% faster than anybody who covered them all year and thus were typically wide open (and firing their shitlord of a WR coach helped).
Giants would be lucky to be able to draft Murray
Yeah I haven’t watched too much of him but i have a feeling his ceiling is a Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford. It’s not bad but it’ll probably not be top 5. Even if his accuracy is a bit higher than reality, he’s still better than last years options other than Mayfield.
The bigger concern with the Giants and Murray is if Murray is willing to wait half a season or a full season to play ala Mahomes or Lamar with the A’s still trying to get him to pick baseball. As well as how much do you trust Pat Shumer to get the most out of Murray.
Haskins is better than Winston with a good pocket though
I only compare them because Haskins had a few plays in the PSU game that reminded me of Winston’s backwards throw-fumble (and other hilarious turnovers)
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Maybe football is his One True Love and he'll definitely play for whoever picks him in the first round of the draft. But also maybe he changes his mind again and decides to play baseball after 1 season sitting on the bench.
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The Pats are at home though, so KC would be up 6 in neutral territory.
KC is at home.
3 points seems low. I guess it’s based on the Chargers embarrassing themselves buuuuut I don’t have that much faith in Belimagic.
Bama lost, therefore the Pats win.
It’s science.
Where does Duke in college basketball factor into this? This is important.
Looking at Wikipedia, as far as I can see if Alabama football plays for a National Championship, Duke does not make the Final Four
No, wait - the streams crossed in 2010
Okay, since 1963 (Duke's first Final Four according to Wikipedia) 10 out of 11 times Alabama played for a championship, Duke failed to make the Final Four
Oh, and the two previous times Clemson has won a National Championship, Carolina has won the tournament (1982, 2017)
In conclusion: Fuck Tom Brady. Fuck the Patriots.
Jeff Allen got stuck in the snow on his way to Arrowhead on Sunday and some dude helped him out
He used Twitter to find out who the guy was, and hooked him up with tickets to the AFC Championship
Could just be based on their head to head match-up. Home field is worth 3 points. Patriots beat the Chiefs by 3 when they were at home. Using Vegas logic the Chiefs would have won by three if they were the home team which is the case this time. Seems like a safe spot to start the betting.
Serious question. I have no idea what an average Kansas winter is like and if they're more or less cold/windy than a Massachusetts winter.
I think it's advantage New England. Brady has played in that shit a lot. Mahomes not so much.
Those types of games are decided more by luck or mental toughness than talent and tactics
Average low in Boston in January: 22.2. Average low in Kansas City in January: 19.6. Average high in Boston in January: 35.8. Average high in Kansas City in January: 38.0. Mean minimum in Boston in January 4.1. Mean minimum in Kansas City in January: -0.1. Mean maximum in Boston in January: 56.4. Mean maximum in Kansas City in January: 60.6. Boston also gets more precipitation and snowfall. In this particular dick measuring contest, they're about the same size. KC is a tip ahead for length, but Boston has a well rounded girth advantage.
It's supposed to be between 10 and 15 degrees in KC on Sunday, with clear skies and a light wind.
I think that New England might potentially possibly have a very slight edge. Mahomes has been very good in cold weather, but he hasn't been MVP Death Star Destroyer Frog Mahomes. He seems to become just another elite QB (who might still be better than Brady).
Or refs...
Yeah, Lubbock has been known to get the occasional snowstorm, but it's pretty rare.
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Cannot think of a better coaching hire for the Jets.
Everyone is calling him a top ten pick and I'm worried the Giants take him and he ends up being too short to be effective in the NFL...
Both Haskins and Murray have pretty similar stats, one is just 6’3 and the other is freakishly athletic. If i had to pick, i’d go Murray, as his threat to run will allow Saquan to put up crazy numbers. Look at what Lamar did for the Ravens run game. Also his athleticism will help with the O-line issues (see Russell Wilson).
Of course the Giants could skip both, pick up O-line help for Eli’s last year and get someone in 2020.
I have very little confidence he’s going to be good in the NFL
Good arm strength, terrible footwork and turns into a pumpkin if anyone gets close to him. Only appeared accurate because OSU’s WR group is 125% faster than anybody who covered them all year and thus were typically wide open (and firing their shitlord of a WR coach helped).
Giants would be lucky to be able to draft Murray
I think that the majority of pundits I’ve seen are saying he’s a late second or third round pick.
Which means that the Patriots take him with the 32nd pick of the draft and secure another two decades of dominance.
Really? Everything I've seen shows him going in round one.
Yeah I haven’t watched too much of him but i have a feeling his ceiling is a Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford. It’s not bad but it’ll probably not be top 5. Even if his accuracy is a bit higher than reality, he’s still better than last years options other than Mayfield.
The bigger concern with the Giants and Murray is if Murray is willing to wait half a season or a full season to play ala Mahomes or Lamar with the A’s still trying to get him to pick baseball. As well as how much do you trust Pat Shumer to get the most out of Murray.
Haskins is better than Winston with a good pocket though
I only compare them because Haskins had a few plays in the PSU game that reminded me of Winston’s backwards throw-fumble (and other hilarious turnovers)
Maybe football is his One True Love and he'll definitely play for whoever picks him in the first round of the draft. But also maybe he changes his mind again and decides to play baseball after 1 season sitting on the bench.
Julian Edelman is very wholesome.
Seeing as slights(real and imagined) fuel Baker Mayfield I love this.
I agree on general principle but what did he do this time
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