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Whatever happened to the [TV] Thread?

Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited January 2019 in Social Entropy++
The milkman

The paperboy

Evening TV?

How did I get delivered here someone tell me?

This old world's confusing me

EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK

EVERYWHERE YOU GO

THERE'S A HEART, A HEART A HAND TO HOLD ON TO!

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  • HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    Hello, Is this the True Detective thread?


    PSN- AHermano
  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Hermano wrote: »
    Hello, Is this the True Detective thread?

    No, this is Patrick.

  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    It is

    freaking hilarious

    that season 5 of The Americans heads itself off with a full 5 minute montage of people digging a hole

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I started Killing Eve last night

    Hey that show is good

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Anyone else watch the pilot episode of The Passage yet?

    I really enjoyed it. It's a departure from the books in many ways but that's to be expected. The girl that plays Amy is really good and Mark-Paul was a good choice for the role.

    I'm thinking this show will do the book justice and that makes me happy

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    B99 this week.

    That ending.
    Am I Scully?

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    We are all of us Scully

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I have a podcast now. It's about video games and anime!Find it here.
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Holy shit could Applegate own Rowling any harder

  • HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Hermano wrote: »
    Hello, Is this the True Detective thread?

    No, this is Patrick.

    Oh, hello Patrick!


    PSN- AHermano
  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Holy shit could Applegate own Rowling any harder

    Applegate also has a trans daughter who she's outspokenly supportive of while Rowling's a TERF so fuck off, wizard lady, shapeshifting four-eyed centaur lady is our new god.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Her letter about people upset at the ending of Animorphs is also extremely good

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Her letter about people upset at the ending of Animorphs is also extremely good

    It is! Linked here for posterity:

    http://www.hiracdelest.com/database/articles/kaa_response-full.htm

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Damn... I should read the Animorphs books.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    So, you don't like the way our little fictional war came out? You don't like Rachel dead and Tobias shattered and Jake guilt-ridden? You don't like that one war simply led to another? Fine. Pretty soon you'll all be of voting age, and of draft age. So when someone proposes a war, remember that even the most necessary wars, even the rare wars where the lines of good and evil are clear and clean, end with a lot of people dead, a lot of people crippled, and a lot of orphans, widows and grieving parents.

  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    it is extremely weird that a book series about shape-shifting adolescents understands war better than all of Hollywood

  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I still like Harry Potter but I find it really difficult to participate in any of the fandom anymore

    in other news I just watched the last episode of King of the Hill

    it's such a nice love letter to the fans

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I get that the letter is funny, but as a kid who was reading those as they came out, I find it pretty shitty/condescending to the intended middle school audience. Looking back as an adult, it's pretty shitty to write a series that revolves around a silly kid focused alien war and then the end is "actually, you all suck because you thought this was a fun sci-fi series, fuck you. Also, I stopped writing these books around number 24 (of 52) and swooped in to write this melancholy ending"

    I find it pretty lame, actually. It's a terrible way to address children, and isn't, as she says "respectful". It's disdainful, actually.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Yeah I uh

    I get where she's coming from, and if it was a story for adults I'd 100% agree

    But imagine if like, Steven Universe ends with half the cast dying and Rebecca sugar says "suck it up its a war story"

    like... YEAH, it is, but there are certain expectations from a child audience and they're not being assholes for being upset

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Yeah I uh

    I get where she's coming from, and if it was a story for adults I'd 100% agree

    But imagine if like, Steven Universe ends with half the cast dying and Rebecca sugar says "suck it up its a war story"

    like... YEAH, it is, but there are certain expectations from a child audience and they're not being assholes for being upset

    Steven Universe is a great example, or Adventure Time (which did have a sort of melancholy ending, but was in general much happier and more satisfying)

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    i like that response a lot personally. Regardless of who the audience for the books are.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Yeah I uh

    I get where she's coming from, and if it was a story for adults I'd 100% agree

    But imagine if like, Steven Universe ends with half the cast dying and Rebecca sugar says "suck it up its a war story"

    like... YEAH, it is, but there are certain expectations from a child audience and they're not being assholes for being upset

    Animorphs is extremely dark in tone throughout. The ending isn't out of left field at all.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It deals with mind control worm aliens and in like, book 6 it's revealed that one of the main characters' mom is not only mind controlled and alive, but she's the leader of the alien army.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Animorphs is a sci fi war story from the first book

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hell, one of the books has Jake watching his enemy slowly die inside his brain because they have no other option.

    Another has them trap a boy in the body of a mouse because he was too dangerous to let go free.

    It's dark as fuck.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Damn... I should read the Animorphs books.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    brooklyn 99
    whoever did the casting for young hitchcock and scully is some kind of genius. Or the young Scully actor is just that good - the facial expressions at the end managed to bridge 40 years and 80kg.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Damn... I should read the Animorphs books.

    They’re free now!

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Damn... I should read the Animorphs books.

    They’re free now!

    Alright then! I'm out of excuses!

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    I dont think that letter came off as mad at the children but I can see why others feel that way. It comes off “if you didnt enjoy the ending than you are feeling the correct emotions because war is awful and sad. Please remember what my books taught you when you grow up and are involved in making decisions about real war”.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I love that the ending to Animorphs isn't clean, because the story isn't clean. An ongoing story beat is that the characters are constantly struggling between doing the most moral thing and doing the most efficient thing. Cassie especially is concerned with what the war is doing to her and her friends; it's not a coincidence that her compassion and morality are what leads to the end of the war, and it's no coincidence that she's the character that thrives after.

    I dunno, I'm generally down on stories that are grim and sad for the sake of it. And I don't think Animorphs is one of those series, and reaching the end was probably a real formative experience for me.

  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Shorty wrote: »
    I still like Harry Potter but I find it really difficult to participate in any of the fandom anymore

    in other news I just watched the last episode of King of the Hill

    it's such a nice love letter to the fans

    The weird thing about King Of The Hill is there are two series finales, because they thought the show was ending, but then it got brought back for another season

    So there's the finale where Luanne and Lucky get married (which is why every single supporting character shows up for their wedding, even Junichiro Hill), and the ACTUAL finale, where Bobby learns he loves grilling, which is comparatively a very small episode

    But it works out for the best, because, while Luanne's wedding is very sweet, and would've been a perfectly good finale, having the final episode be focused just on Bobby and Hank, with the series ending on the two of them sharing just this tiny piece of common ground at long last, is just the right call

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Yeah I uh

    I get where she's coming from, and if it was a story for adults I'd 100% agree

    But imagine if like, Steven Universe ends with half the cast dying and Rebecca sugar says "suck it up its a war story"

    like... YEAH, it is, but there are certain expectations from a child audience and they're not being assholes for being upset

    Kids watch Steven Universe?

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    The ending of Magicians S3 is...bizarre.
    A season long conflict with the library with more limited magic and oh my God seriously cast-wide memory wipes is absolutely not where I wanted the series to go. And the concept of why the Monster at the End of the World is dangerous is just bad, full stop.
    It's too bad because I thought besides the very end S3 was the best one, but I also only watch the show after it's on Netflix so SYFY doesn't really care what I think

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Yeah I uh

    I get where she's coming from, and if it was a story for adults I'd 100% agree

    But imagine if like, Steven Universe ends with half the cast dying and Rebecca sugar says "suck it up its a war story"

    like... YEAH, it is, but there are certain expectations from a child audience and they're not being assholes for being upset

    Kids watch Steven Universe?

    Despite their best efforts yes.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Was the show several of y'all were like this is good, actually, watch it! The Bodyguard?

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    It's Bodyguard on Netflix. Most of it is real good, though the ending is kind of a wet fart.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    So, you don't like the way our little fictional war came out? You don't like Rachel dead and Tobias shattered and Jake guilt-ridden? You don't like that one war simply led to another? Fine. Pretty soon you'll all be of voting age, and of draft age. So when someone proposes a war, remember that even the most necessary wars, even the rare wars where the lines of good and evil are clear and clean, end with a lot of people dead, a lot of people crippled, and a lot of orphans, widows and grieving parents.

    I like that letter a lot. It's a powerful defense of art-as-moral-stance.

    I've previously gone to the mat for the Mockingjay, because I dig that kind of, "PTSD is a real thing, and horrific stories don't get easy happy endings" vibe. It was an unpopular opinion!

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Tube wrote: »
    So, you don't like the way our little fictional war came out? You don't like Rachel dead and Tobias shattered and Jake guilt-ridden? You don't like that one war simply led to another? Fine. Pretty soon you'll all be of voting age, and of draft age. So when someone proposes a war, remember that even the most necessary wars, even the rare wars where the lines of good and evil are clear and clean, end with a lot of people dead, a lot of people crippled, and a lot of orphans, widows and grieving parents.

    I like that letter a lot. It's a powerful defense of art-as-moral-stance.

    I've previously gone to the mat for the Mockingjay, because I dig that kind of, "PTSD is a real thing, and horrific stories don't get easy happy endings" vibe. It was an unpopular opinion!

    I feel like as we move further and further away from release, and the hype of "this is the conclusion to a wildly popular YA franchise," Mockingjay is going to get a much better rep. Because it's not out of line with what happens in the first two, and it never really forgets what everything costs.

    But I'm the guy whose favorite part of the last Harry Potter book is when they're endlessly wandering through the countryside, so I might not be the best judge

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