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Removed Dream Daddy Dadrector's Cut
Released 2017, this is a minor content update and port to PS4. This was on the 2017 poll.
Removed Steins;Gates for reasons below: 8-bit ADV Steins;Gate US Release in Feb 2019 Steins;Gate Elite US Release in Feb 2019 Steins;Gate 0 Original US release on PSVita Nov 2016. Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram Original US Release 2013
Removed Steven Universe Save the Light
Original Release on PS4 in 2017
I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC
Gorogoa
The Red Strings Club
Unavowed
Dusk
Space Tyrant
Quarantine Circular
Looking through the games I enjoyed last year, man 2017 was a lot of fun haha
2018, you mean.
Hah, oh no I mean 2017. A huge chunk of games I enjoyed in 2018 came out in 2017. It'd be cool (but oh so much work) to have a 5 polls at the end of the year, one each for the last 5 years. Be a good gauge for people to read how well games have agreed, which ones were worth the hype what what deflated like balloons as soon as the year ended
I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC
Gorogoa
Sorry, Gorogoa was on the list last year.
EDIT: I've added the five other games you mentioned to the sheet! Also added some more platforms, marked a few more remasters as such (some should be deleted), and removed Hidden Folks (2017).
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Let It Die released in 2016, and has been removed. Sorry, Uncle Death.
The Room: Old Sins (iOS, Android) - Released January 25th, 2018
Mothergunship (PC, PS4, Xbox One) - Released July 17th, 2018
Also, here's an idea, maybe for next year: What if we just make more than one category? It'd be more work, but we'd be able to celebrate a lot more games without having to deal with early access hesitation or whether enough work was done on a remake to qualify it as "new." Also if Early Access was a separate category, I would be fine with a title showing up multiple years, so we wouldn't have to worry about the "is it finished enough. I'm thinking like
Best New Game
Best Remaster/Remake
Best DLC/Expansion/Update
Best Early Access
Was there any decision on how the episodic games should be handled? Looks like Life is Strange 2: Ep. 1 is on there. I think in the past we waited for the last game to come out and then judged the whole thing as a whole, except in cases like the Half-Life 2 Episodes.
I think it makes sense to wait for the whole thing. The first game was my favourite of whatever year it came out, but it would've been way lower on my list if it had only been the first episode or two.
I just added 286 entries sourced from Polygon, PCGamer, RPS, GJC, IGF, GDC, Molleindustria, mcc, Liz Ryerson, this year's Humble Originals, all 50 or so Giant Bomb GOTY lists, and more. They're at the bottom of the spreadsheet because I've been at this a few hours but didn't manage to add platforms. I'll get to it tomorrow, but if anyone could help with this (and double check for duplicates or ineligible titles, it would be incredibly appreciated. Here they are:
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10 Mississippi
11:45 A Vivid Life
1870: CYBERPUNK FOREVER
1977: Radio Aut
A Case of Distrust
A Prison Strike
Aeon of Sands - The Trail
All Our Asias
Alluvium
almanac of girlswampwar territory
Alphabear 2
Alto's Odyssey
Anamorphine
Anchor-like need
ASMR
Atlas' Fate: Between Light & Darkness
Aye Fair Lady
Bad North
Ballad of the Space Whale
Bandersnatch
Be Drunk
Bedtime Adventure
beemis: the curse of god
Beyond the Sky
Biden My Time: A Joe Biden Garfield Reading Adventure
Binky C.L.I.X: Binky and the Blustery Day OR Binky and the Pie
Binky CVIII: Binky gets 500 vases in the mail
BINKY DX Pack
BINKY IV: Return of Binky
BINKY IX: BUBBO I
BINKY V: Binky's UFO
BINKY VI: The Binktastic Voyage
BINKY VII: Robot Island
BINKY VIII: Binky Pool Legend
BINKY X: Binky's Planned Party
BINKY XXI: BINKY GOES INTO THE HAUNTED CASTLE TO SEARCH FOR THEIR BOYFRIEND RUFF
Bonewarper
Bound Together
Breaker
Broken Reality
Bucolic BINKY and the Clone Catastrophe
Budget Cuts
Can You Come In?
Captain Lee
Cashbags
Catmaze
Caught Between Dimensions
Charge Cycles
Chnakess
Coffee Talk
ComPETition
Copy Kitty
Cosmic Top Secret
Cragne Manor
Crossgrams
CURSEDOM
Cut & Run
Cyberpet Graveyard
Cytus II
Daily Quests
Dandara
Dead Wife Game
Dinosaur Party
Distance
Do not Feed the Monkeys
Does That Answer Your Question?
Dogness
Don't Trip
Donkey Kong's Revenge
Drawkanoid
Duck Souls
Earthworms
ELECTRIC FILE MONITOR
Electronauts
Else Walker
En Garde!
Equilinox
ESC
Eternal Home Floristry
Ethereal
EXAPUNKS
Exhaustlands
EXTREME MEATPUNKS FOREVER
Factory Hiro
Finder's Cycle #1
First Winter
Flamingo Quest
Fluffy Koala and the Delicious Cake Cafe
Fluffy Tile World
Football Game
Forests are for Trees
Forgotton Anne
Fortune-499
Full Metal Furies
Furistas Cat Cafe
GENDERWRECKED
Giant's Chalice
Giraffe Town
Girls' Frontline
Golem
Grace Bruxner Presents: The Haunted Island, a Frog Detective Game
Grass Stains
HANA
Haunted Cities Vol. 3
Heart Chain Kitty
HEARTBEAT
Hero
Hitchhiker
House Flipper
IIslands of War
In Death
Indecision.
INFERNIUM
investigate
IQ: Intelligent Qhess
Islands (by Rosden Shadow)
It is as if you were making love
It's Paper Guy!
Jazztronauts
JIGGLY ZONE
Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass
Jurassic World Alive
Just Shapes & Beats
Kaiju Super Datetech
Kenshi
Kleu’s music
Knight Club
L: An Interactive Mystery
La-Mulana 2
Lamplight City
Last Game Of The Year 2018
League of Piss
Legendary Gary
Li went to flounda's house and this is what he told me
Lisssn
llama villa
LONG LIVE THE AXE
Lucah: Born of a Dream
Ludus Antioch
Lyric Sonata
Marbloid
Marie's Room
Megaquarium
Mellowdy
Memory
Merry Cake-flavoured Chisrmas
Meteor-Strike!
Meteorfall
Mike Dies
Mirror Drop
Monster Breeder
Monster Girl Maker
Monster Prom
Mr. Gun
Mr. Petes is lost!
Mr. Petes is the glue that holds this building together.
MUSCLE WORLD
My Child Lebensborn
NAIRI: Tower of Shirin
Nepenthe
New Ice York
novena
NSFWare
Nusty Flamingo Tango
Odd One
Of Mice and Sand -REVISED-
Ollie & Bollie's Outdoor Estate
one night, hot springs
opus
OVERWHELM
Overwrite
Paper & Ink Dungeon
Paper Planet Pop
Paratopic
Parsnip
Patient Rogue
Pig Eat Ball
Pipe Push Paradise
Planet Grunch
Pocket-Run Pool
POD
POLYBOT-7
Pool Panic
Quantic Cat
Railroad Tracks
Randy's Soccer Quest
Reigns: Game of Thrones
Resurgent
Reverie
Rising Dusk
Roulette Knight
Rude Bear Resolution
Runnink out of Space
Russian Subway Dogs
Rxcovery
Rym 9000
SchoolQuest Collection
Secret of the Wumpus
Seers Isle
September 1999
Septillion
SHADOWS
Shape of the World
Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation Dx2
Shrug Island - The Meeting
Silverybield Foss
Siren Head
Skuiggle
Sky Noon
Smithee
Snow Game
Snowspirit
Sonic Suggests
Speed Dating for Ghosts
Spellthief
Spy Quest 1 - Mission: SPECTRUM
Stay Home
STONE
Stumblehill
Subserial Network
supertype
Sven
Taco Tom 2
Tango: The Adventure Game
TASball
Temple of the Wumpus
Tendar
Tesla vs Lovecraft
The Alchemist Stash
The Alpha Device
The Attic’s a Dungeon ?!
The Bone Maze
The Cold Remains of Warmer Days
The Council
The Crown of Leaves
The Doll Shop
the earth is a better person than me
The Empty City
THE ENIGMA MACHINE
The Fall Part 2: Unbound
The friends of Ringo Ishikawa
The Great Ghoul Duel (Google Doodle)
The Haunted Island, a Frog Detective Game
The Hex
The House of the Living
The Librarian
The Loss Levels
The Purpose of Water
The Royal
The Silence Under Your Bed
The Spectrum Retreat
The Testimony of Trixie Glimmer Smith
The world had been sad since Tuesday
This Cat That Comes In Through Our Window
Totally Accurate Battlegrounds
Trash Bin Monster
Twinfold
Umfend
Un Pueblo De Nada
Unearth
Unfamiliar
Unforeseen Incidents
Us Lovely Corpses
vApe Escape
Vegetable Grower 2
Visual Out
Warehouse Panic
Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus
Watch Me Jump
We Should Talk
Whale's Waldo
Where the Water Tastes Like Wine
wHERE'StIGA
Whisper
WiFi Robots
Winter, 2001: Someone tell Luigi I love him
Woten
Wumpus Sea Courier Report
Yoshi’s Island Gaiden: Halloween Eternal
You Are Jeff Bezos
you feel a draft.
YOU LEFT ME.
Zarvot
ZeroRanger
ZONES
I included Jazztronauts despite it being a mod of Garry's Mod because of the number of lists I saw it on.
I also encountered the following early access titles which I have not added to the spreadsheet. Please weigh in on whether any of these should be included before the looming deadline:
Darwin Project
Hades
Hunt: Showdown
Objects in Space
Raft
Slay the Spire
SpyParty
The Light Keeps Us Safe
The Void Rains Upon Her Heart
They Are Billions
I removed the following titles for being straight ports/rereleases or incomplete episodic projects. Please let me know if I was mistaken with any of these:
Path of Exile
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 1: Done Running
The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 2: Suffer the Children
Yakuza 0
Yakuza 3
Lastly, I changed "Fortnite: Battle Royale" to be simply "Fortnite" and "Deltarune" to be "Deltarune: Chapter 1". If you disagree… you know the deal.
EDIT: Having second thoughts about including Hero after learning it's an installation based VR experience, though there's probably some overlap between voters and Tribeca Film Festival 2018 attendees, right?
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Added:
Azur Lane
Bendy in Nightmare Run
Book of Demons
Crossing Souls
Deep Sky Derelicts
Dust and Salt
Graveyard Keeper
I'm Not a Monster
Lethal League Blaze
My Memory of Us
Ninjin: Clash of Carrots
Not Tonight
PixelJunk Monsters 2
Prime Mover
Scythe: Digital Edition
Steel Rats
Synthetik: Legion Rising
Terraforming Mars
The Shapeshifting Detective
Transference
Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War
Wartile
Zwei: The Arges Adventure
Removed:
God Eater 3
Judge Eyes
Persona Q2
All of these are planned to release in the US in 2019.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II: Kai
I also encountered the following early access titles which I have not added to the spreadsheet. Please weigh in on whether any of these should be included before the looming deadline:
Darwin Project
Hades
Hunt: Showdown
Objects in Space
Raft
Slay the Spire
SpyParty
The Light Keeps Us Safe
The Void Rains Upon Her Heart
They Are Billions
I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
I just added 286 entries sourced from Polygon, PCGamer, RPS, GJC, IGF, GDC, Molleindustria, mcc, Liz Ryerson, this year's Humble Originals, all 50 or so Giant Bomb GOTY lists, and more. They're at the bottom of the spreadsheet because I've been at this a few hours but didn't manage to add platforms. I'll get to it tomorrow, but if anyone could help with this (and double check for duplicates or ineligible titles, it would be incredibly appreciated.
My favorite part of these lists is going down and seeing these obscure, oddly titled indie-games.
And I think we can cut these, unless I'm mistaken
Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse NS Y
Cabela's: The Hunt - Championship Edition NS Y
Firefighters: The Simulation NS
Firefighters: Airport Fire Department NS
Layton's Mystery Journey DX NS
Last minute change:
Removed:
Love is Strange 2: Episode 1
Runbow
God Wars: The Complete Legend
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Hunting Simulator
Moto Racer 4
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
Sky Force Reloaded
Scribblenauts Mega Pack
Spyro Reignited Trilogy is still on there, should that come down based on the other remakes that we've cut?
Also: did Dragon Quest Builders 2 ever come out in the US? I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it.
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I'm indifferent as long as we're consistent. If we're not counting Crash Remastered, we shouldn't count Spyro.
I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
OK. I'm down with Fortnite being our only major exception to the EA rule (which, looking at the spreadsheet, it now is).
I'll aim to go through tonight and do the final list. Thanks to everyone for putting in the effort!
Awesome! I've just gone through and added a few more platforms (as well as deleting some duplicates and adding a couple of things I missed) but I'm afraid I won't be able to finish 'em up until I get home from work about 10 hours from now… I stayed up all night adding the initial entries and then had to catch up on sleep.
I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.
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I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.
Well, the whole idea is that each game only gets one shot, so if it was on the list for a previous year, it's ineligible for this year.
That's why I'm against putting EA titles on here, as being in early access is a tactic admission that the game is not done and judging a game that is not done is super unfair. You either cut it slack that you don't for full releases, or you judge it harshly for being incomplete, even though it's not the intention of the creators to have to judged in that matter, yet.
Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.
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Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.
I would sooner allow major expansions such as No Mans Sky Next, WoW expansions, and substantial DLC packs (like Blood and Wine, The Division's Survival update, Battlefield and COD expansions, etc.) on the list than allow remasters and early access games, to be honest.
I'm not sold on the idea that just removing microtransactions is enough to count as a new game, as plenty of games have done so, often for economic or legal reasons, without really altering the game.
But it's certainly easier to draw a line at only full games.
I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.
Well, the whole idea is that each game only gets one shot, so if it was on the list for a previous year, it's ineligible for this year.
That's why I'm against putting EA titles on here, as being in early access is a tactic admission that the game is not done and judging a game that is not done is super unfair. You either cut it slack that you don't for full releases, or you judge it harshly for being incomplete, even though it's not the intention of the creators to have to judged in that matter, yet.
Yeah, this kind of makes sense to me-. Leave them off until the developer says they're "done" and judge what's there then- if it's No Man Sky or Fallout 76, then you judge it based on what's there and hopefully they build it out into something resembling a complete game.
It will get props by fans of the game throughout the next year if they expand on it in a smart way, but for the purpose of making a list that will be set in stone over the voting is done, if the creators says it's 1.0 or done or whatever then you consider it against other games that are done at that time.
Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.
Nah, people don't typically go into a live service game expecting a lack of content. The live service stuff is supposed to be in addition to a full, complete game. Otherwise games like No Man's Sky, Sea of Thieves or Fallout 76 wouldn't have gotten trashed when they first came out.
Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.
Nah, people don't typically go into a live service game expecting a lack of content. The live service stuff is supposed to be in addition to a full, complete game. Otherwise games like No Man's Sky, Sea of Thieves or Fallout 76 wouldn't have gotten trashed when they first came out.
And I have to completely disagree. They're reviewed when money is expected to exchanged hands, as every other product is. What it might become is what "Live Service" games are absolutely a bullet point to be sold on. Almost every such title has a poor end game that is expected to be "fixed", but they are reviewed in the state they are. That is the product you've purchased, and it may become better or it may never be finished.
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I'm wrapping up platforms and deleting a few more ports now. One last minute thing I noticed: both Nintendo Labo Robot Kit & Nintendo Labo Variety Kit are listed. Are these games? Are they sufficiently distinct, or would a single entry for Nintendo Labo be better?
EDIT: I've added all the platforms. I've deleted some things. I made Nintendo Labo a single entry, but feel free to revert this change.
I'm wrapping up platforms and deleting a few more ports now. One last minute thing I noticed: both Nintendo Labo Robot Kit & Nintendo Labo Variety Kit are listed. Are these games? Are they sufficiently distinct, or would a single entry for Nintendo Labo be better?
EDIT: I've added all the platforms. I've deleted some things. I made Nintendo Labo a single entry, but feel free to revert this change.
I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right? Or was there one big Labo pack that had everything?
I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right?
Thanks, it sounds like my change should be reverted! I also didn't actually play them.
Yeah, it looks like the actual software is different in addition to the games/box pieces.
In fact it looks like there was a third kit released at some point? Dunno how popular these were but I think they are different enough that people playing them will prefer one over the other.
Using this extra time, I went ahead and added a couple of the worst-reviewed games of 2018 (via Metacritic) that were absent from the list. Worthwhile!
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I also removed World of Final Fantasy Maxima, as it was an enhanced edition.
Time is called! List going over to @Infidel shortly.
Thanks for all the effort on this folks, I'll be honest, time is extremely limited for me nowadays (turns out a very active 5 year old daughter keeps you pretty busy). If anyone wants to take up the mantle for doing the organizing next year it'd be appreciated - you guys in this thread have done all the work anyway
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Released 2017, this is a minor content update and port to PS4. This was on the 2017 poll.
Removed Steins;Gates for reasons below:
8-bit ADV Steins;Gate US Release in Feb 2019
Steins;Gate Elite US Release in Feb 2019
Steins;Gate 0 Original US release on PSVita Nov 2016.
Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram Original US Release 2013
Removed Steven Universe Save the Light
Original Release on PS4 in 2017
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Capcom Beat'Em Up Bundle
Gorogoa
The Red Strings Club
Unavowed
Dusk
Space Tyrant
Quarantine Circular
Looking through the games I enjoyed last year, man 2017 was a lot of fun haha
2018, you mean.
Hah, oh no I mean 2017. A huge chunk of games I enjoyed in 2018 came out in 2017. It'd be cool (but oh so much work) to have a 5 polls at the end of the year, one each for the last 5 years. Be a good gauge for people to read how well games have agreed, which ones were worth the hype what what deflated like balloons as soon as the year ended
Sorry, Gorogoa was on the list last year.
EDIT: I've added the five other games you mentioned to the sheet! Also added some more platforms, marked a few more remasters as such (some should be deleted), and removed Hidden Folks (2017).
The Room: Old Sins (iOS, Android) - Released January 25th, 2018
Mothergunship (PC, PS4, Xbox One) - Released July 17th, 2018
Also, here's an idea, maybe for next year: What if we just make more than one category? It'd be more work, but we'd be able to celebrate a lot more games without having to deal with early access hesitation or whether enough work was done on a remake to qualify it as "new." Also if Early Access was a separate category, I would be fine with a title showing up multiple years, so we wouldn't have to worry about the "is it finished enough. I'm thinking like
Best New Game
Best Remaster/Remake
Best DLC/Expansion/Update
Best Early Access
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PSN: SirGrinchX
Oculus Rift: Sir_Grinch
BallisticNG (PC) - Dec 14th, 2018
the Sequence [2] (MOBILE, PC) - Jun 21, 2018
Suzy Cube (MOBILE, PC) - Jun 19, 2018
I also encountered the following early access titles which I have not added to the spreadsheet. Please weigh in on whether any of these should be included before the looming deadline:
I removed the following titles for being straight ports/rereleases or incomplete episodic projects. Please let me know if I was mistaken with any of these:
Lastly, I changed "Fortnite: Battle Royale" to be simply "Fortnite" and "Deltarune" to be "Deltarune: Chapter 1". If you disagree… you know the deal.
EDIT: Having second thoughts about including Hero after learning it's an installation based VR experience, though there's probably some overlap between voters and Tribeca Film Festival 2018 attendees, right?
Bendy in Nightmare Run
Book of Demons
Crossing Souls
Deep Sky Derelicts
Dust and Salt
Graveyard Keeper
I'm Not a Monster
Lethal League Blaze
My Memory of Us
Ninjin: Clash of Carrots
Not Tonight
PixelJunk Monsters 2
Prime Mover
Scythe: Digital Edition
Steel Rats
Synthetik: Legion Rising
Terraforming Mars
The Shapeshifting Detective
Transference
Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War
Wartile
Zwei: The Arges Adventure
Removed:
Judge Eyes
Persona Q2
All of these are planned to release in the US in 2019.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II: Kai
Was on 2016's list.
I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
My favorite part of these lists is going down and seeing these obscure, oddly titled indie-games.
And I think we can cut these, unless I'm mistaken
Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse NS Y
Cabela's: The Hunt - Championship Edition NS Y
Firefighters: The Simulation NS
Firefighters: Airport Fire Department NS
Layton's Mystery Journey DX NS
PSN: SirGrinchX
Oculus Rift: Sir_Grinch
Removed:
Love is Strange 2: Episode 1
Runbow
God Wars: The Complete Legend
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Hunting Simulator
Moto Racer 4
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
Sky Force Reloaded
Scribblenauts Mega Pack
Spyro Reignited Trilogy is still on there, should that come down based on the other remakes that we've cut?
Also: did Dragon Quest Builders 2 ever come out in the US? I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it.
Albeit both are great graphical refreshes.
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Awesome! I've just gone through and added a few more platforms (as well as deleting some duplicates and adding a couple of things I missed) but I'm afraid I won't be able to finish 'em up until I get home from work about 10 hours from now… I stayed up all night adding the initial entries and then had to catch up on sleep.
N. Sane Trilogy was 2017, and we left it off the list… but perhaps this is our chance to turn over a new leaf?
What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.
Well, the whole idea is that each game only gets one shot, so if it was on the list for a previous year, it's ineligible for this year.
That's why I'm against putting EA titles on here, as being in early access is a tactic admission that the game is not done and judging a game that is not done is super unfair. You either cut it slack that you don't for full releases, or you judge it harshly for being incomplete, even though it's not the intention of the creators to have to judged in that matter, yet.
I would sooner allow major expansions such as No Mans Sky Next, WoW expansions, and substantial DLC packs (like Blood and Wine, The Division's Survival update, Battlefield and COD expansions, etc.) on the list than allow remasters and early access games, to be honest.
I'm not sold on the idea that just removing microtransactions is enough to count as a new game, as plenty of games have done so, often for economic or legal reasons, without really altering the game.
But it's certainly easier to draw a line at only full games.
Yeah, this kind of makes sense to me-. Leave them off until the developer says they're "done" and judge what's there then- if it's No Man Sky or Fallout 76, then you judge it based on what's there and hopefully they build it out into something resembling a complete game.
It will get props by fans of the game throughout the next year if they expand on it in a smart way, but for the purpose of making a list that will be set in stone over the voting is done, if the creators says it's 1.0 or done or whatever then you consider it against other games that are done at that time.
Nah, people don't typically go into a live service game expecting a lack of content. The live service stuff is supposed to be in addition to a full, complete game. Otherwise games like No Man's Sky, Sea of Thieves or Fallout 76 wouldn't have gotten trashed when they first came out.
And I have to completely disagree. They're reviewed when money is expected to exchanged hands, as every other product is. What it might become is what "Live Service" games are absolutely a bullet point to be sold on. Almost every such title has a poor end game that is expected to be "fixed", but they are reviewed in the state they are. That is the product you've purchased, and it may become better or it may never be finished.
EDIT: I've added all the platforms. I've deleted some things. I made Nintendo Labo a single entry, but feel free to revert this change.
I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right? Or was there one big Labo pack that had everything?
Yeah, it looks like the actual software is different in addition to the games/box pieces.
In fact it looks like there was a third kit released at some point? Dunno how popular these were but I think they are different enough that people playing them will prefer one over the other.
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Cool- in that case, one last edit to the list from me: these were on last year's it looks like:
Dark Rose Valkyrie
Divinity: Original Sin II
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
Thanks for all the effort on this folks, I'll be honest, time is extremely limited for me nowadays (turns out a very active 5 year old daughter keeps you pretty busy). If anyone wants to take up the mantle for doing the organizing next year it'd be appreciated - you guys in this thread have done all the work anyway
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