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Mac Thread: Yes you can turn off the 3d glass effect! W/Y/H

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  • SaarSaar Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lewisham wrote: »
    So, I'm probably gonna get a Macbook with my tax refund, but someone reminded me Macworld is pretty soon.

    Any good rumors what new stuff is gonna happen? Any idea if they'll be changing the Macbooks at all?

    Rumor mill says:
    Macbook - No
    Macbook Pro - Yes, probably a speed bump
    New sub-notebooks coming, with an awesome docking station that looks like an iMac, and you slot your laptop in the side of it. The docking station you believe only if you are the type of person to get really excited*.

    *I am this person.

    EDIT: Because I love this picture so much. Spoiler'd for h-scroll.
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    This is so bought if it's anything like reality.

    While the idea is pretty cool, I wonder about the the video specs. Would the monitor have its own video card or is there a much better integrated graphics card on the horizon that can drive a 20" plus monitor with decent frame rates? What about heat build up?

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So my new Macbook is sitting next to me. It is taking most of my willpower to not turn the thing on before the battery charges completely.

    EDIT: This thing cannot charge fast enough.

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  • MisanthropicMisanthropic Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Even if there aren't revision updates, there may be price drops, so you might as well wait a couple weeks. You never know.

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  • MephistophelesMephistopheles Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I hope I don't get lost in the End of Thread restart, or the MacWorld frenzy, but this seemed like a great* place to come for advice on purchasing my first Mac.

    * = the best place, ever

    I'm looking at the Macbook. With all my recent holiday pay and overtime, along with tax return, I'm probably going to be generating enough extra cash to get one.

    Any hints on buying? I'm guessing the online Apple Store is the best place, but what about discounts, etc?

    Is it possible to wait to get AppleCare until later? The actual product comes with an identical 1 year warranty, no?

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  • Epyon9283Epyon9283 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Any hints on buying? I'm guessing the online Apple Store is the best place, but what about discounts, etc?

    Is it possible to wait to get AppleCare until later? The actual product comes with an identical 1 year warranty, no?

    I got all of my Macs at the apple store except one I bought at compusa. The prices generally don't vary much AFAIK but if you can buy it online from somewhere out of state you could avoid taxes.

    You can wait to get applecare. You can purchase and activate it as long as you're within the original warranty.

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  • RonenRonen Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So I'm thinkin' these are shops, but damn, if they're real...:

    cute

    cute

    complete and utter crap

    The first two are cute mockups. The third is garbage. Apple isn't so retarded as to make a touch pad so wide that your hands will rest on it when you're typing. Assuming that that keyboard is the same size as my Powerbook's keyboard, my hands would both be halfway onto that touchpad.

    Now that I'm looking at them again, I don't think Apple would stick with the old style keyboards for any new laptop introduction or major product revision. They've been having too much success with the aluminum keyboards for them to leave it out, I think. Personally, my Bluetooth aluminum keyboard is probably the best accessory I own, and I'm half tempted to buy another one to leave in the living room (I carry mine around with me even though my laptop is only a 12" Powerbook).

    I've held off buying a new Mac laptop because, well, I don't need one, but if they do come out with another tiny Pro model, which I suspect they will, it will be incredibly tempting.

    Taking it one step further, that whole iMac-as-a-dock concept is just too awesome.

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  • s7apsters7apster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ronen wrote: »
    So I'm thinkin' these are shops, but damn, if they're real...:

    cute

    cute

    complete and utter crap

    The first two are cute mockups. The third is garbage. Apple isn't so retarded as to make a touch pad so wide that your hands will rest on it when you're typing. Assuming that that keyboard is the same size as my Powerbook's keyboard, my hands would both be halfway onto that touchpad.

    Now that I'm looking at them again, I don't think Apple would stick with the old style keyboards for any new laptop introduction or major product revision. They've been having too much success with the aluminum keyboards for them to leave it out, I think. Personally, my Bluetooth aluminum keyboard is probably the best accessory I own, and I'm half tempted to buy another one to leave in the living room (I carry mine around with me even though my laptop is only a 12" Powerbook).

    I've held off buying a new Mac laptop because, well, I don't need one, but if they do come out with another tiny Pro model, which I suspect they will, it will be incredibly tempting.

    Taking it one step further, that whole iMac-as-a-dock concept is just too awesome.

    ESPECIALLY if it's flash-based...which seems to be the rumor.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ronen wrote: »
    Taking it one step further, that whole iMac-as-a-dock concept is just too awesome.

    I am going to weep tears of blood if it doesn't get announced at Macworld.

    Why am I such an optimistic fanboy? WHY?

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited January 2008
    I think I totally don't get the iMac as a dock concept... you have an iMac but if you 'insert' one of these new mini MBPs the iMac will operate as a monitor for the MBP?

    Why can't you just use a cable?

    I think I'm missing out on implied functionality here.

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  • bashbash Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I hope I don't get lost in the End of Thread restart, or the MacWorld frenzy, but this seemed like a great* place to come for advice on purchasing my first Mac.

    * = the best place, ever

    I'm looking at the Macbook. With all my recent holiday pay and overtime, along with tax return, I'm probably going to be generating enough extra cash to get one.

    Any hints on buying? I'm guessing the online Apple Store is the best place, but what about discounts, etc?

    Is it possible to wait to get AppleCare until later? The actual product comes with an identical 1 year warranty, no?

    If you're a college student or know one you can get an education discount which is a fixed dollar amount for the different machines (between 8-10%). These discounts are only available through Apple (stores or online) not through CompUSA or Best Buy or anywhere like that. You can indeed wait on AppleCare, you've got a year warranty out of the box and can pick up AC any time during that first year. AppleCare is also covered by the education discount which saves you a few bucks.

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Hai I just bought Macbook, I can sit at cool table nao?

    I bought a base 2ghz C2D/80g/1g MB this morning. I've had a laptop supplied by work for a long time. But I'm leaving my job and I came to the somewhat stunning revelation that I don't actually own a working computer. I have a 2004-ish desktop that's got a dead motherboard, and that's all. So I picked up an MB and a copy of VMWare Fusion, which has me thrilled. I don't use my computers for anything more than work, some basic Photoshop stuff, and Interwebbing. I'm pretty happy, though. If I get a new job quickly enough, I might exchange for an MBP. But honestly, the regular MB is more than I really can make use of.

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  • ColdredColdred Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    I think I totally don't get the iMac as a dock concept... you have an iMac but if you 'insert' one of these new mini MBPs the iMac will operate as a monitor for the MBP?

    Why can't you just use a cable?

    I think I'm missing out on implied functionality here.

    I would think the idea is that the "iMac" shell has a few bits (i.e., a bigger monitor (obviously), optical drive, maybe a graphics card if the mini MBP is an Intel Graphics jobbie, etc.) whilst the laptop itself provides the CPU, memory, and other stuff like that (the bits it needs to operate as a standalone). Sounds pretty unlikely though, tbh, although would be a pretty cool idea. Still, that's my own speculation based on the picture.

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  • ginguskahnginguskahn Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Hai I just bought Macbook, I can sit at cool table nao?

    I bought a base 2ghz C2D/80g/1g MB this morning. I've had a laptop supplied by work for a long time. But I'm leaving my job and I came to the somewhat stunning revelation that I don't actually own a working computer. I have a 2004-ish desktop that's got a dead motherboard, and that's all. So I picked up an MB and a copy of VMWare Fusion, which has me thrilled. I don't use my computers for anything more than work, some basic Photoshop stuff, and Interwebbing. I'm pretty happy, though. If I get a new job quickly enough, I might exchange for an MBP. But honestly, the regular MB is more than I really can make use of.

    Congrats, you may now feel smug and superiour. :)

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    Coldred wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    I think I totally don't get the iMac as a dock concept... you have an iMac but if you 'insert' one of these new mini MBPs the iMac will operate as a monitor for the MBP?

    Why can't you just use a cable?

    I think I'm missing out on implied functionality here.

    I would think the idea is that the "iMac" shell has a few bits (i.e., a bigger monitor (obviously), optical drive, maybe a graphics card if the mini MBP is an Intel Graphics jobbie, etc.) whilst the laptop itself provides the CPU, memory, and other stuff like that (the bits it needs to operate as a standalone). Sounds pretty unlikely though, tbh, although would be a pretty cool idea. Still, that's my own speculation based on the picture.

    I think that's the idea, though I doubt the shell will have a graphics card or any kind of components that would usually be internal. It could have a larger monitor, optical drive, maybe a hard drive bay that acts as external storage to the MBPmini, keyboard and mouse ports, extra USB ports, power adapter for charging, those kinds of things.

    I'm not convinced that the patent will ever actually be used though. It seems like a great idea in theory, but it would be expensive, and I'm not sure why people would want to pay a few hundred dollars for a giant dock just because it looks like an iMac.

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  • Brodo FagginsBrodo Faggins Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Should've waited til the 14th!

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    ginguskahn wrote: »
    Hai I just bought Macbook, I can sit at cool table nao?

    I bought a base 2ghz C2D/80g/1g MB this morning. I've had a laptop supplied by work for a long time. But I'm leaving my job and I came to the somewhat stunning revelation that I don't actually own a working computer. I have a 2004-ish desktop that's got a dead motherboard, and that's all. So I picked up an MB and a copy of VMWare Fusion, which has me thrilled. I don't use my computers for anything more than work, some basic Photoshop stuff, and Interwebbing. I'm pretty happy, though. If I get a new job quickly enough, I might exchange for an MBP. But honestly, the regular MB is more than I really can make use of.

    Congrats, you may now feel smug and superiour. :)

    Thanks! This is my third go-around with a Mac. Forever ago I had a low end Quadra that ran System 7.5. And I got a 15" aluminum PBG4 right when they first came out. I can't believe how much faster the C2D MB is. Or how much cheaper stuff for it is. I just ordered 4 gigs of RAM from Crucial for a whopping $120.

    Oh, and running Ubuntu alongside Leopard and WinXP in seamless windows is nerd porn. Thank you, VMWare.

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  • ginguskahnginguskahn Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    i picked up 4gb when i bought my new mac mini as well. Do I need it? no. Does it feel good? hells yeah :)

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So that new slim Macbook looks pretty cool. I'm going to go ahead and trust the rumours for now, these things end up being right. I really do wish my Macbook were a lot lighter and thinner.

    I really hope they put whatever accidental-trackpad-activation-detection technology they have in those into the current laptops. It a pretty common annoyance on my Macbook for the trackpad to get activated accidentally.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Posting from my new Macbook now.

    I've spent the last couple of days doing startup stuff like charging the battery, fiddling around with what's on here and deciding what I want to use/leave on the Dock, that sort of thing. I've also added my CDs to iTunes and installed both Gametap (runs fine, if a little fast on the Core 2 Duo) and WoW (which is actually installing now, and is mostly a test). I haven't really used iTunes that much before, as my current mp3 player is a Toshiba based on the WMP OS they have. I want to make this little thing into my go-to media device, as I've found the speakers are pretty phenomenal for laptop speakers.

    All in all, still wonderful in the honeymoon period. I need to mess around with my 60 day trial in .Mac.

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  • s7apsters7apster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Coldred wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    I think I totally don't get the iMac as a dock concept... you have an iMac but if you 'insert' one of these new mini MBPs the iMac will operate as a monitor for the MBP?

    Why can't you just use a cable?

    I think I'm missing out on implied functionality here.

    I would think the idea is that the "iMac" shell has a few bits (i.e., a bigger monitor (obviously), optical drive, maybe a graphics card if the mini MBP is an Intel Graphics jobbie, etc.) whilst the laptop itself provides the CPU, memory, and other stuff like that (the bits it needs to operate as a standalone). Sounds pretty unlikely though, tbh, although would be a pretty cool idea. Still, that's my own speculation based on the picture.

    Would this small MBP have a disc drive? There's probably an obvious answer that I hadn't picked up on, but most of the smallest PC laptops (IBM Thinkpads are prime examples), that don't have them. You'd need a dock...but then everybody who owns one is gonna have to buy an iMac?

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    No, in all credible rumours, the sub-notebook doesn't have an optical drive. It will come with an external drive you connect to. This is what gives a lot of credence to the patent.

    You aren't buying an iMac; you're buying a screen inside an iMac enclosure, with probably an optical drive and maybe an extra hard drive in it. The guts are in the laptop. To say that you have to buy an iMac is wrong, the expensive components are all in the laptop element.

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  • QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So on my Macbook Pro the clicker is making weird clicks in addition to the main "click"

    Weird question but I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    So on my Macbook Pro the clicker is making weird clicks in addition to the main "click"

    Weird question but I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem

    My Macbook did this for a day or two, about a week after I bought it, then it went away. I'm not sure what was causing it.

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  • RonenRonen Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    s7apster wrote: »
    Coldred wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    I think I totally don't get the iMac as a dock concept... you have an iMac but if you 'insert' one of these new mini MBPs the iMac will operate as a monitor for the MBP?

    Why can't you just use a cable?

    I think I'm missing out on implied functionality here.

    I would think the idea is that the "iMac" shell has a few bits (i.e., a bigger monitor (obviously), optical drive, maybe a graphics card if the mini MBP is an Intel Graphics jobbie, etc.) whilst the laptop itself provides the CPU, memory, and other stuff like that (the bits it needs to operate as a standalone). Sounds pretty unlikely though, tbh, although would be a pretty cool idea. Still, that's my own speculation based on the picture.

    Would this small MBP have a disc drive? There's probably an obvious answer that I hadn't picked up on, but most of the smallest PC laptops (IBM Thinkpads are prime examples), that don't have them. You'd need a dock...but then everybody who owns one is gonna have to buy an iMac?

    There are some really cool things you can do with docks these days. For example, HP sells a dock for their business laptops that includes a 100GB HDD that backs up all of your data onto the HDD when you dock... so to restore the machine after failure, you just have to dock it. In addition, since the dock has its own network connection, the HDD can be set to act as a NAS when the computer isn't docked.

    If Apple were to go with the iMac-as-a-dock concept, I'd imagine they'd put Time Machine and similar technology to good use. Unfortunately, I don't really think they'll do it... which is good for my credit score.

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  • bashbash Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So on my Macbook Pro the clicker is making weird clicks in addition to the main "click"

    Weird question but I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem

    Go to System Preferences > Sound and see if the active audio device is the microphone. What can happen is this device gets selected and picks up all kinds of sounds from the case and monitors them through the speakers causing all sorts of odd sounds. Set it to line-in as the default audio device, apps like Skype and iChat will still be able to use the microphone.

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    re - new thread title. is this in reference to the 3D/glass effect of the dock? is it not a popular thing? i tried turning it off w/ onyx and it seemed about the same to me.


    Oh BTW browsing my image directories w/ coverflow is absolutely wonderful. No slowness whatsoever.

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  • QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    bash wrote: »
    So on my Macbook Pro the clicker is making weird clicks in addition to the main "click"

    Weird question but I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem

    Go to System Preferences > Sound and see if the active audio device is the microphone. What can happen is this device gets selected and picks up all kinds of sounds from the case and monitors them through the speakers causing all sorts of odd sounds. Set it to line-in as the default audio device, apps like Skype and iChat will still be able to use the microphone.
    The noise isn't coming through the speakers, it's coming from the actual clicker

    But I'm guessing it'll go away in a week

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  • DharmaBumDharmaBum Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Does anyone know of a free fitness app with graphs and stuff for the Mac? I'm trying to find somthing to track and chart fittness and such.

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Are there any good security suites that run under Leopard? Something that does sniffing, port scans, wi-fi detection, etc? I have a couple of Linux and FreeBSD based virtual appliances for Fusion that are OK, but something I can use natively would be even better.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Are there any good security suites that run under Leopard? Something that does sniffing, port scans, wi-fi detection, etc? I have a couple of Linux and FreeBSD based virtual appliances for Fusion that are OK, but something I can use natively would be even better.

    Network Utility comes with Nmap. KisMAC will run wifi scans for you.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    For a minute or two, the keyboard on my new Macbook was completely unresponsive. What gives?

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Are there any good security suites that run under Leopard? Something that does sniffing, port scans, wi-fi detection, etc? I have a couple of Linux and FreeBSD based virtual appliances for Fusion that are OK, but something I can use natively would be even better.

    Network Utility comes with Nmap. KisMAC will run wifi scans for you.

    I can't get KisMAC to work with the wi-fi card included w/ the Macbook. Do I need to go buy a Prism2 based USB adapter?

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    For a minute or two, the keyboard on my new Macbook was completely unresponsive. What gives?

    There's a patch for this that you should get when you do the first round of software updates

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lewisham wrote: »
    The guts are in the laptop. To say that you have to buy an iMac is wrong, the expensive components are all in the machined aluminum element.

    Fix'd that for you :)

    So, has anyone discussed broken folder actions in Leopard yet?

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Are there any good security suites that run under Leopard? Something that does sniffing, port scans, wi-fi detection, etc? I have a couple of Linux and FreeBSD based virtual appliances for Fusion that are OK, but something I can use natively would be even better.

    Network Utility comes with Nmap. KisMAC will run wifi scans for you.

    I can't get KisMAC to work with the wi-fi card included w/ the Macbook. Do I need to go buy a Prism2 based USB adapter?

    It works on my Airport Extreme card, I don't know about the compatibility with yours. It has to load it's own driver implementation for it to put my card in to Passive move; check in the help files about how to make it do this. I don't think it will attempt it without being explicitly told it should.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Thanks, I can't believe I hadn't thought to software update. I've set it for automatic now, though.

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  • VulpineVulpine Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Just appeared on the various worldwide Apple sites are some rather tasty new Mac Pros. http://www.apple.com/macpro/ has all the important details, but the highlights are eight cores as standard, and decent graphics card options: ATi Radeon HD 2600 XT, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT and NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600.

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  • H*RH*R Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well for me, it's good to see they got the Pro and Enterprise upgrades out of the way and so we'll have plenty of time for juicy consumer refreshes next week!

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Given how absurdly powerful the MacPros are, I wonder who they're really selling them to. I mean, they've got the iMacs at the low end, and then the MacPros at the insanely high end. They're just making people want a "Mac." I'm not going to spend $2800 to replace my aging dual G5 with a machine that drastically overshoots my needs.

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  • SaarSaar Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Got a tech question:

    To sync the email on my home mac, my work mac and my iPhone, I run my work, .mac and one other account through gmail imap. I have gmail set up so that if I respond to an email, it uses the incoming address rather than my gmail address.

    In my Mail preferences, I have all accounts enabled but only have the gmail imap check marked "include when automatically checking for new mail" so I won't pull down duplicates from the other servers.

    Problem is, at random times Mail will undo my preferences by check marking "include when automatically checking for new mail" for all enabled accounts and access the servers I tell it not to.

    Is there a way to "lock down" the Mail preferences so it doesn't do this?

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