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[Anthem] Early Access is live. Please mark spoilers. God speed, Freelancers.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I do wonder how the level scaling stuff will work.

    One big issue I had with Destiny was I took a long break compared to my brothers who played nonstop. Then when I hopped back on my gear was so behind that I was just a burden to them and that wasn't fun for anyone.

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    MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    ugh, this is going to have time limited content isn't it?

    I know that's the standard these days, but I despise it. Sucks the fun out of the game.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I do wonder how the level scaling stuff will work.

    One big issue I had with Destiny was I took a long break compared to my brothers who played nonstop. Then when I hopped back on my gear was so behind that I was just a burden to them and that wasn't fun for anyone.

    They have said there is scaling for everyone. So I believe in theory your friend can join you at a lower level and do stuff with you and not just blow it all away, or you can join them and not be just a body.

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    metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    ugh, this is going to have time limited content isn't it?

    That's certainly how they're framing Cataclysms, that they are short-term Endgame events resulting in dramatic changes to the gameworld.

    However, if Cataclysms are the sort of quasi-Raid experience within Anthem, chances are they are things that recur (akin to Warframe's current Event system).

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    QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    ugh, this is going to have time limited content isn't it?

    I know that's the standard these days, but I despise it. Sucks the fun out of the game.

    I like it myself, particularly in the MonHun World variety--time limited events which return on rotating schedules, then all at once twice a year for several weeks.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Awesome that they're sharing the roadmap. Some of it looks great. Some of it looks like stuff that I would expect to be in at release, and instead it's being released to fanfare, like an update rather than adding missing from launch content. (Guilds, the fixed progression system, one of the two dungeons they had to pull back because they weren't ready.)

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I mean...honestly I know there are folks who are gonna no life this and reach the endgame in like 2 weeks...but I dunno by the month or so the 4th stronghold comes out I'll probably still be doing the other 3 so it doesn't sound terrible to me.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I mean...honestly I know there are folks who are gonna no life this and reach the endgame in like 2 weeks...but I dunno by the month or so the 4th stronghold comes out I'll probably still be doing the other 3 so it doesn't sound terrible to me.

    And I'd rather not have unfinished or broken content in release.

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Yeah this is being sold in the "Games as a service" vein so as long as the core gameplay is appealing, there's enough content at release, and the planned additional content looks appealing, I think that's good enough for me.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I was just thinking about ME3MP vs MEAMP...one of my problems was that I thought ME3MP spread content out way better than MEAMP did. Like you were able to max out a lot of stuff in ME3MP by the time the next expansion was due.

    While in MEAMP they frontloaded a lot of stuff for the grind monsters and honestly all that did was overwhelm a lot of the more average players.

    So I guess I look at it differently.

    That said Anthem doesn't have bars like ME3MP does so its a bit different.

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    MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    metaghost wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    ugh, this is going to have time limited content isn't it?

    That's certainly how they're framing Cataclysms, that they are short-term Endgame events resulting in dramatic changes to the gameworld.

    However, if Cataclysms are the sort of quasi-Raid experience within Anthem, chances are they are things that recur (akin to Warframe's current Event system).

    Rotating events ala Warframe I'm okay with, as long as they're reasonably long compared to how much effort it is to get the most out of them, and return frequently.

    I'm over things like Destiny 2 and Battlefield V's "seasons". I have other things to do.

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    Ear3nd1lEar3nd1l Eärendil the Mariner, father of Elrond Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    dporowski wrote: »
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    -Loki- wrote: »
    It’ll hinge on early impressions. People run through story content FAST these days, and are super vocal.

    If the content is exhausted too fast or there’s some significant server issues, people will absolutely crow about it, and that will have an impact.

    I’m already seeing a not insignificant reaction online of people waiting out the first month to see how those issues pan out. 6 weeks to make 5-6 million sales when the online consensus already seems to be ‘wait 2/3 if that time to decide’ could be bad.

    People will whinge about literally anything. Complain about anything. There's been people right here who hope this game fails because either they don't like EA, or it's not the game THEY wanted BioWare to make, and thus they must be taught a lesson. I bet there's a face that won't animate perfectly. Oh, and there's nothing to fuck, can't forget that. Burn it all down!

    I'm going to play a game, have fun, and hope that the internet hate machine doesn't ruin yet another thing I enjoy.

    Uh... okay.

    I’m not referring to people saying EA needs to die, or Anthem for whatever reason.

    But the two betas they did caused enough concern for there to be a general ‘wait a bit and see’ attitude. Coupled with EAs huge numbers in just 6 weeks expectation, I was just mentioning it hinging on the concerns from those betas.

    Hate has nothing to do with it. Games are pricey these days and often launch with issues (particularly online games) and people get more hesitant to buy on day 1. The Anthem betas gave actual cause for concern, at least to people on PC.

    Maybe it's me. Betas have issues, demos have issues; I never figure a preview product will be an accurate representation of anything except the rough strokes of gameplay. I don't even think about balance issues, numbers, etc. The idea of playing "wait and see" based on technical issues in a demo build based off a known old branch of code seems... Weird to me.

    Not buying a game day 1 that gave you multiple issues in a beta/demo, to me, seems entirely normal.

    You’ve got actual reason to expect it to not work as intended rather than going in blind.

    And the idea that you need to buy the new shiny game on day 1 seems weird to me.

    I have been burned a lot more by buying a game day 1 than I have by starting it a couple of weeks after launch.

    And I winder how they're going to count Origin subs into their "units sold" figure?

    I hadn't planned on pre-ordering the game and was going to wait a month or so, but my BestBuy Gamer's club thing expires at the end of the month, so I decided to go ahead and pre-order it so I could still get the discount.

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    DacDac Registered User regular
    Bobble wrote: »
    Yeah this is being sold in the "Games as a service" vein so as long as the core gameplay is appealing, there's enough content at release, and the planned additional content looks appealing, I think that's good enough for me.

    And it would be fine to me as well... if they weren't charging full price up front.

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    Corporal CarlCorporal Carl Registered User regular
    After looking at @asofyeun 's pictures of his javelins mentioned on page 72 of this thread, I was looking at the GunPla I was building, and I only needed to add a few guns:
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    That image on the right reminds me of Emil's head, and now I want there to be an AnthemxNier crossover event so we can get a Emil helmet variant.

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    KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    Dac wrote: »
    Bobble wrote: »
    Yeah this is being sold in the "Games as a service" vein so as long as the core gameplay is appealing, there's enough content at release, and the planned additional content looks appealing, I think that's good enough for me.

    And it would be fine to me as well... if they weren't charging full price up front.

    Sure, it's a call you have to make if you think the base stuff looks worth it. Preordering is still betting on the post launch content being worth it. It may or may not be, we'll see! Fortunately, all of this post launch content is included in the asking price so at the very least it's not full price + more like many games do.

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    GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    If there is no Blood Dragon Armor vinyl available at release, Bioware has goofed big.

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    SimpsoniaSimpsonia Registered User regular
    I'm fine with time-limited events as long as they don't completely gate unique gear/customizations behind them. If I miss something really cool because I just so happened to be out of town on work for a week, and it either won't come back or won't come back for like 9 months, then that fucking blows.

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    SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    I really want to play this at launch, but also fear a bit for the bugs and lack of content. I think I might use Sekiro (Which comes out in March as well) to tide me over in the meantime!

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Colossus gets a flame thrower, heavy guns, a launcher and shitloads of explosions?

    *opens mouths and starts drooling like Homer*

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Simpsonia wrote: »
    Since everyone loves #FashionJavelin I figured I'd post this here. Guy goes through some of the more advanced skins and color options that will be available for a few of the javelins.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN7pIroJBe8

    That first Storm set looks a whole lot like Excalibur Umbra from Warframe.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Bobble wrote: »
    Yeah this is being sold in the "Games as a service" vein so as long as the core gameplay is appealing, there's enough content at release, and the planned additional content looks appealing, I think that's good enough for me.

    The problem is it’s EA. They’ve set very high sales expectations, which Biowares previous games would have struggled to hit without the negativity this game has around it. What happened when Andromeda failed to meet expectations? Planned DLC was dropped.

    Releasing with unfinished content or just lacking in content isn’t going to be pleasant if it doesn’t meet sales targets and EA pulls the majority of the funding to support it as a game as a service.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I mean...umm...the game is gonna still have a main story along with the endgame stuff.

    I dunno I try to steer clear of how much content actually makes a game worth its price because it is completely arbitrary for most people.



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    cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Colossus gets a flame thrower, heavy guns, a launcher and shitloads of explosions?

    *opens mouths and starts drooling like Homer*

    Downside: Gets a pain in the butt shield that takes some getting used to or you get kinda wrecked.

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    That image on the right reminds me of Emil's head, and now I want there to be an AnthemxNier crossover event so we can get a Emil helmet variant.

    Thanks a lot

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    kaidkaid Registered User regular
    cptrugged wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Colossus gets a flame thrower, heavy guns, a launcher and shitloads of explosions?

    *opens mouths and starts drooling like Homer*

    Downside: Gets a pain in the butt shield that takes some getting used to or you get kinda wrecked.

    This is the tricky thing they get a really strong shield but unlike the others it is more active use and you have to plan it a bit. That said colossus also appear to get some really really high durability improving colossus specific modules so I think any squishyness is probably an early game issue only.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    If there is no Blood Dragon Armor vinyl available at release, Bioware has goofed big.

    Yep, that will honestly tell me something about just how Bioware this game actually is.

    Also I will pay actual money for an N7 vinyl.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Bobble wrote: »
    Yeah this is being sold in the "Games as a service" vein so as long as the core gameplay is appealing, there's enough content at release, and the planned additional content looks appealing, I think that's good enough for me.

    The problem is it’s EA. They’ve set very high sales expectations, which Biowares previous games would have struggled to hit without the negativity this game has around it.

    This isn't accurate; Dragon age inquisition sold over 6 million copies.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    I think I might start with Chonky Boi as my first javelin to make sure I get basic drops for it so I can unlock crafting for those.

    Also I ended up liking it. I guess that's a reason too.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    If there is no Blood Dragon Armor vinyl available at release, Bioware has goofed big.

    Yep, that will honestly tell me something about just how Bioware this game actually is.

    Also I will pay actual money for an N7 vinyl.

    Well we know there is an n7 vinyl. Haven't heard of a dragons age one yet, probably come later.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Zombie GandhiZombie Gandhi Registered User regular
    Damnit I am going to buy an N7 vinyl then booooooo

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    kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    If there is no Blood Dragon Armor vinyl available at release, Bioware has goofed big.

    Yep, that will honestly tell me something about just how Bioware this game actually is.

    Also I will pay actual money for an N7 vinyl.

    Well we know there is an n7 vinyl. Haven't heard of a dragons age one yet, probably come later.

    I have zero doubt they will add dragon age vinyls if they don't already have them at launch. Its a low hanging customization fruit that is pretty no brainer.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Everyone really wants that Jade Empire skin...

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Simpsonia wrote: »
    I'm fine with time-limited events as long as they don't completely gate unique gear/customizations behind them. If I miss something really cool because I just so happened to be out of town on work for a week, and it either won't come back or won't come back for like 9 months, then that fucking blows.

    I feel the opposite, but provided you have the Warframe model where there's so much stuff all the time that you're not missing something amazing that you need. Instead it's more of a gotta catch em all thing. Just throw a new vinyl at us every couple weeks for doing that event, so it feels special to get one.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    The last post was the primer. This one triggered it.

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    This is going to be one of those games where you can't choose a name and only your network tag is visible, isn't it?

    Its a shame. Really want to go with something like "Beef" or "Slab" since I'm going to try to go in hard on Colossus.

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    GorkGork Registered User regular
    My tag already has, “smash” in it.

    Guess which javelin I’m starting with.

    Guess.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Simpsonia wrote: »
    I'm fine with time-limited events as long as they don't completely gate unique gear/customizations behind them. If I miss something really cool because I just so happened to be out of town on work for a week, and it either won't come back or won't come back for like 9 months, then that fucking blows.

    another way Guild Wars 2 has done this exactly right: You give the content away for free if people are playing during the release weeks, and then for $2 per episode if you missed some and want to catch up.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    I wonder if we'll eventually get different melee weapons + mods for them.

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