I'm interested in never dying and I'm a big piece of shit who does nothing of value and never will, imagine a worthwhile person who does good things doing good things forever
I'm not really that happy with my life, but the though of one day ceasing to exist keeps me up at night. I'm not sure I'd want complete immortality, but I wouldn't sticking around a lot longer than the normal human lifespan.
I only seem to find motivation to do things when there's a deadline. If I have eternity to get my shit together, it'll never happen
This seems to imply that you are often given deadlines that if not met result in you becoming dead
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I only seem to find motivation to do things when there's a deadline. If I have eternity to get my shit together, it'll never happen
This seems to imply that you are often given deadlines that if not met result in you becoming dead
Well, in a roundabout way sure, I got several recurring bills that meet that criteria, but I just meant that currently I got a finite time to live my life so there's a deadline on doing something notable or worthwhile with it.
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I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
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this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
disagree
this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I would say there is a pretty huge difference between a character being a horrible racist, homophobic goblin in a show that is literally all about horrible offensive shit versus Wolverine having a consistently traumatic, painful life that colors every part of his existence and prevents him from being truly happy
Not in terms of emulation
Wolverine is cool, so people want to be like him
It doesn't matter that the text of the films is that he's lonely. People still want to be him, because he's extremely appealing
Like, its still a power fantasy. Wolverine hurts, but he cant actually BE hurt and he solves all of his problems by being a super cool badass who stabs bad people to death
Unless you completely change everything about the character until people pity wolverine instead of wanting to be him, people are still gonna want to act like him, including smoking
@Chincymcchilla, I'm interested, what social-taboos/vices are permissible for comic book superheroes to engage in?
I only seem to find motivation to do things when there's a deadline. If I have eternity to get my shit together, it'll never happen
But think of how many "Cat chasing after a laser pointer" or "Dominos falling in a vaguely impressive way" time-waster videos you'll watch as a means of procrastinating. Eventually you'll just be like the most important source of knowledge of trash culture; people will travel from around the world to ask you about that one video with the balloon popping in slow motion.
I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
disagree
this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
disagree
this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I would say there is a pretty huge difference between a character being a horrible racist, homophobic goblin in a show that is literally all about horrible offensive shit versus Wolverine having a consistently traumatic, painful life that colors every part of his existence and prevents him from being truly happy
Not in terms of emulation
Wolverine is cool, so people want to be like him
It doesn't matter that the text of the films is that he's lonely. People still want to be him, because he's extremely appealing
Like, its still a power fantasy. Wolverine hurts, but he cant actually BE hurt and he solves all of his problems by being a super cool badass who stabs bad people to death
Unless you completely change everything about the character until people pity wolverine instead of wanting to be him, people are still gonna want to act like him, including smoking
@Chincymcchilla, I'm interested, what social-taboos/vices are permissible for comic book superheroes to engage in?
it depends on how beloved the character is by children
in general, people on wolverines level shouldnt be shown smoking because its extremely easily emulatable, addictive, and bad for you at every level
drinking isnt great either but also lots of people drink in a healthy way
Im honestly having a hard time thinking of anything Id completelty cut put other than smoking and hard drugs
but again this is specifically for characters that are heroic role models
Constantine can chain smoke all day long, hes not on lunchboxes
I only seem to find motivation to do things when there's a deadline. If I have eternity to get my shit together, it'll never happen
But think of how many "Cat chasing after a laser pointer" or "Dominos falling in a vaguely impressive way" time-waster videos you'll watch as a means of procrastinating. Eventually you'll just be like the most important source of knowledge of trash culture; people will travel from around the world to ask you about that one video with the balloon popping in slow motion.
I wouldn't dare encroach on AJ's turf like that
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I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
disagree
this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I can't argue that Logan isn't an incredibly popular, beloved character
But also literally every piece of popular X-Men media goes out of its way to show how much being Wolverine fucking sucks
You get claws and can't die, sure, but you have no memories, everyone you love dies, you're in constant pain and can't wash the blood off your hands no matter how hard you try
And that's just the movie version
That doesn't change the fact that folks still think he is cool, but at that point it is because they are actively ignoring huge chunks of his story and the media itself shouldn't be held accountable for that
disagree
this is that whole eric cartman argument again
its still south parks fault if people quote his hateful shit at people even though the show says hes bad
I would say there is a pretty huge difference between a character being a horrible racist, homophobic goblin in a show that is literally all about horrible offensive shit versus Wolverine having a consistently traumatic, painful life that colors every part of his existence and prevents him from being truly happy
Not in terms of emulation
Wolverine is cool, so people want to be like him
It doesn't matter that the text of the films is that he's lonely. People still want to be him, because he's extremely appealing
Like, its still a power fantasy. Wolverine hurts, but he cant actually BE hurt and he solves all of his problems by being a super cool badass who stabs bad people to death
Unless you completely change everything about the character until people pity wolverine instead of wanting to be him, people are still gonna want to act like him, including smoking
@Chincymcchilla, I'm interested, what social-taboos/vices are permissible for comic book superheroes to engage in?
it depends on how beloved the character is by children
in general, people on wolverines level shouldnt be shown smoking because its extremely easily emulatable, addictive, and bad for you at every level
drinking isnt great either but also lots of people drink in a healthy way
Im honestly having a hard time thinking of anything Id completelty cut put other than smoking and hard drugs
but again this is specifically for characters that are heroic role models
Constantine can chain smoke all day long, hes not on lunchboxes
I think that can be an agreeable position.
But Marvel has extended it to include all characters, which doesn't sit right with me.
You know what else is fun and delicious, providing extended oral pleasure to a cigarette god damn it I want one I'm glad I don't have any and I want one give me one no don't
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He’s been kicking bad guys’ rears for years – but now, Marvel Comics superhero Wolverine is kicking butts.
The popular X-Man, and other smoking Marvel heroes, have been ordered to kick the habit by Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada.
“Villains can still smoke, but that’s OK, because villains are stupid,” Quesada told The Post.
The Marvel Comics boss said he decided to institute the smoking ban because it was a “responsible thing.”
He said the “main culprit” was Wolverine, the cigarette-smoking, cigar-chomping star of the company’s best-selling comic, the X-Men, which was turned into a hit movie last year.
In the comics, lung cancer and emphysema aren’t much of a threat to the clawed Canadian. He has a mutant healing power that, in addition to helping him survive high falls, bullets and stabbings, also keeps his lungs clean.
That’s still not good enough for Quesada.
“[Wolverine] is a role model for some kids and he shouldn’t be smoking,” Quesada said.
“Besides, the healing factor would keep him from getting addicted to nicotine anyway, so it doesn’t even make sense for him to smoke.”
Also hit by the no-smoking ban are Wolverine’s fellow X-Man Gambit, and two of the company’s oldest characters, Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., and the ever-lovin’, blue-eyed Thing, who’s been smoking stogies since soon after he first appeared 40 years ago as one of the Fantastic Four.
The no-smoking decision was a personal one for the editor, a popular artist who took over the home of Spider-Man and the Hulk last year. He’s a non-smoker who lost his grandfather to smoking-related emphysema and saw his father suffer a collapsed lung from smoking last year and still have problems quitting.
“It’s a nasty habit that’s affected my life in a tragic way,” Quesada said.
The comics are produced about three months before they hit newsstands, so the smoke won’t disappear from comic readers’ eyes until December.
Smoking will still be permitted in the company’s new line of mature titles, Max Comics.
So it is, or was, still permitted for mature titles
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Is there some sort of superpowered R. Crumbish ultradegenerate in the Marvel pantheon, unkillably injecting heroin into their eyeballs and vaping meth with a mouthful of LSD while, I dunno, foiling crime at the dog race track or something
There's the inverse: Snowflame, the DC villain powered by cocaine.
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Also that evil Superman who needed to grind up kryptonite and snort it for his powers
Is there some sort of superpowered R. Crumbish ultradegenerate in the Marvel pantheon, unkillably injecting heroin into their eyeballs and vaping meth with a mouthful of LSD while, I dunno, foiling crime at the dog race track or something
There's the inverse: Snowflame, the DC villain powered by cocaine.
Shut UP there's a cocaine powered super villain that better be real
Is there some sort of superpowered R. Crumbish ultradegenerate in the Marvel pantheon, unkillably injecting heroin into their eyeballs and vaping meth with a mouthful of LSD while, I dunno, foiling crime at the dog race track or something
There's the inverse: Snowflame, the DC villain powered by cocaine.
Shut UP there's a cocaine powered super villain that better be real
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Unique Physiology: Gains superpowers upon snorting cocaine.
Superhuman Strength
Superhuman Speed
Immunity to Pain
Pyrokinesis
Cocaine Touch: Touching Snowflame was sufficient to give the Floronic Man a contact high.
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This seems to imply that you are often given deadlines that if not met result in you becoming dead
Some, yes.
But there is just as much, if not more, Parker Luck conspiring to keep him down.
No "should I have done this with my life?" worries
Like who cares? Why learn science now? Learn science next century when we're better at it!
Well, in a roundabout way sure, I got several recurring bills that meet that criteria, but I just meant that currently I got a finite time to live my life so there's a deadline on doing something notable or worthwhile with it.
@Chincymcchilla, I'm interested, what social-taboos/vices are permissible for comic book superheroes to engage in?
it depends on how beloved the character is by children
in general, people on wolverines level shouldnt be shown smoking because its extremely easily emulatable, addictive, and bad for you at every level
drinking isnt great either but also lots of people drink in a healthy way
Im honestly having a hard time thinking of anything Id completelty cut put other than smoking and hard drugs
but again this is specifically for characters that are heroic role models
Constantine can chain smoke all day long, hes not on lunchboxes
but you already don't have your shit together and you don't have eternity
admittedly "healthy" is relative here
I wouldn't dare encroach on AJ's turf like that
I think that can be an agreeable position.
But Marvel has extended it to include all characters, which doesn't sit right with me.
So it is, or was, still permitted for mature titles
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Yeah being immortal would actually probably be a balm for my particular type of depression
No heroes
Villains can smoke
Anyone can smoke in the adult only comics
There's the inverse: Snowflame, the DC villain powered by cocaine.
Shut UP there's a cocaine powered super villain that better be real
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Snowflame_(New_Earth)
Yeah!
"have it literally give you superpowers?"
but randomly shoving words together in his speech bubbles is a pretty good visual signifier of erratic speech.
"Do I have to wear the cowboy hat?"
"Yes."
"No deal."
I will not be "That immoral guy in the cowboy hat"
I've already been described as an immoral guy in a cowboy hat, honestly
I still haven't seen more than a couple episodes of Mad Men because I'll smoke an entire pack per episode.
And Mr.Freezes suit is 100% a chiller bong
I feel like Mr. Freeze has too much of a stick up his ass to be high.