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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Ho ho ho get ready

    That book wrecked me, I love it

    So It Goes on
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    This is going to end like Stranger in a Strange Land isn't it?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Still only 70% of the way through, but all I can think about now is how much men would lose their minds if a high school made this required reading.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    I am loving How Long ‘Til Black Future Month?

    So far I’ve read stories about a culture where selfishness is the only sin, the birth of a great city, a bargain with the Fae, the alchemy of cooking, and a revolutionary Haitian spy in a proto-steampunk (i.e. there are dirigibles but none of the silly hats with gears stuck to them) New Orleans.

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    DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    Still only 70% of the way through, but all I can think about now is how much men would lose their minds if a high school made this required reading.

    When I finished it my first thought was "Yup, that's humanity."

    Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    So, just finished The Power. I really liked it. I didn't realize the opening bit was actually part of the novel, and so I think I kind of skimmed it/didn't really grasp what it was talking about, and then ofc it jumps straight to "mordern" times, so I went back and read that, and now I'm flipping through looking at all the Cataclysm artifacts again.
    Holy shit I feel like such an idiot for missing the bit about "Bitten Fruit" artifacts. On rereading it feels spot on
    I feel like its if nothing else an excellent critique of any and all power structures. The voice thing is still a little weird to me, I'm not sure if I care for it. I feel like it somewhat removes the weight of some of the characters actions.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    In my opinion,
    she's insane, or at least slightly. That's it. So it didn't particularly bother me.

    I think the author was going for some Joan of Arc allusions there too.

    So It Goes on
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    In my opinion,
    she's insane, or at least slightly. That's it. So it didn't particularly bother me.

    I think the author was going for some Joan of Arc allusions there too.
    I think at the end Margot hears it as well. Most of the story I thought maybe Allie is just a little crazy, but at the end the voice starts talking about previous encounters, and it started to seem more like an outside force. It's just an aspect of the story that I felt it could have done without, and not really missed anything.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    I’m finishing the last Murderbot Diary in the morning. What read next?

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Murderbot Diaries ends precisely at the point I would have found it most interesting.

    Harrumph!

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    I’m reading The Slynx, by Tatyana Tolstaya. It’s a post-apocalyptic (post nuclear) story about a community of people living on the grounds of what used to be Moscow, except it’s a forest filled with huts and mostly everyone has the sophistication of a 15th century peasant. It’s third person but completely limited/in the head of one of the simple peasants.
    I don’t like reading a book from the point of view of an innocent/simpleton; that’s a fine concept for a short story, but a couple hundred pages of this is just not actually interesting any more. Yes, we get it, he thinks eating mice is normal and stealing stuff from your neighbors is normal and having grotesque mutations is normal and all good from his village’s cult leader etc. I suppose the one interesting thing is that he has a melancholy temperament kind of common to a lot of Russian lit, but he has no idea how to process it, so there are some interestingly innocent descriptions of ennui.

    The translation/editorial choices made in the edition I’m reading are pretttty bad. There are tons and tons of fragments of poetry (I recognize...none of them, because I am uncultured af) and I think that a good translator would put a footnote saying what poem it is and what the cultural connotation is of the poem. Some Russian words are used frequently and left untranslated for no reason that I can tell—why leave izba as izba instead of using the word hut? Why not translate golubchiks to dearies, or maybe even doves or something like ‘lovies’, which has the same meaning and evokes the phrase ‘lovey dovey’ which gets you back to dove (golubchik is a term of endearment meaning, literally, little dove, and for whatever reason this is what the villagers are called). Total mystery as to why you’d keep it in Russian and just put a glossary at the front.
    Similarly, chapter titles are just left transliterated (with no glossary)—the chapter titles are a letter of the alphabet and a word starting with that letter, but if you’re literally going to leave it as г - glagol, please at least put a footnote saying that glagol means ‘verb’.
    I think this is probably not a great book to read in translation, in general; there’s clearly a really distinct voice playing a lot with language (there’s a lot of misspellings, for example, of words unfamiliar to the peasant guy, and a lot of misappropriation of vocabulary to mean something new, a lot of colloquial language and stream of consciousness) and a lot is certainly being lost. But I’m not particularly enamored by the concept or the book and am just reading the rest of it to see if it ever goes anywhere and get it off my plate, so I don’t think I’ll be looking at the original text.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Six Wakes was interesting. The final twist actually kind of got me, and the dive into cloning ethics was something I found interesting to think about.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    I read sunshine a few years ago and recommended it to sarah and she liked it too, so two more votes in support @credeiki

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
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    PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    Just finished:
    The Phenomenon: Pressure, the Yips, and the Pitch that Changed My Life by Rick Ankiel
    If you have a modicum of interest in baseball or just how a professional athlete has to deal with pressure, i highly recommend this book.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    I finished Vinegar Girl by Anne Tyler for my book group and I hated it

    It's a retelling of the Taming of the Shrew that ends with the "shrew" yelling at everyone that men have it hard

    Yiiiiiiikes

    Gonna just watch 10 Things I Hate About You instead from now on

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    pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Just started Black Leopard, Red Wolf and I can already tell it’s going to be a doozy. The dramatis personae section is like four pages long!

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Just started Black Leopard, Red Wolf and I can already tell it’s going to be a doozy. The dramatis personae section is like four pages long!

    Hmm. This was on my list but that puts me right off. I don't want a big block of telling rather than showing up front

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    pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Just started Black Leopard, Red Wolf and I can already tell it’s going to be a doozy. The dramatis personae section is like four pages long!

    Hmm. This was on my list but that puts me right off. I don't want a big block of telling rather than showing up front

    I wouldn’t let it deter you, it’s not indicative of the narrative style in the slightest.

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    The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Hmm would the book thread be a good place to talk about eReaders?

    Well, it looks like my 3rd Gen Kindle has given up the ghost after not using it for a year or two (long story short I got an entire box of books on clearance and hadn't touched my Kindle while I was working through them). It won't charge now, the charging light comes on and turns off after a charge cycle, but the screen won't turn on. After I try to turn it on it will start charging all over again and go through a full charging cycle again failing to charge another time. I'm going to try this for a bit more hoping that it will eventually get enough charge into the battery to start up again and start charging for real, but I'm starting to lose hope.

    I'm looking at the All-new Kindle Paperwhite (2018) and wondering if I should go for 8gb WiFi or 32gb Cellular. Do the new Kindles still let you access Wikipedia for free over the cellular connection?

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    There are some hard reset button codes that might help you Spaniard.

    Also the gbs of storage sounds just so weird. I do guess I have like 1.5 gb on my paperwhite but I've had it for a few years now and never erased anything from it.

    The storage size and the cell service seems weird to me but 1: I don't really use PDFs/Audiobooks/Big Files on my Kindle and 2: I'm pretty comfortable turning my phone into a mobile hotspot for a few minutes if I need to update at a weird location. YMMV and all that.

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    The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    There are some hard reset button codes that might help you Spaniard.

    Also the gbs of storage sounds just so weird. I do guess I have like 1.5 gb on my paperwhite but I've had it for a few years now and never erased anything from it.

    The storage size and the cell service seems weird to me but 1: I don't really use PDFs/Audiobooks/Big Files on my Kindle and 2: I'm pretty comfortable turning my phone into a mobile hotspot for a few minutes if I need to update at a weird location. YMMV and all that.

    I've already tried holding the On button for 15-40 seconds, and I've also tried quickly pressing & holding the Home key afterwards. The screen hasn't shown a single sign of life, the only indicator I get is from the little amber charging light and that's it. It comes on when I plug it in, it shuts off after a few hours, and then after I try to turn on the device the charging light comes back on and charges for a few hours again.

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    flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    Finished The Dispossessed, enjoyed it. Reminded me of Russian lit, in the sense that there are many scenes where characters will just be in a room together, and talk philosophy at each other for pages and pages and pages, and then the scene ends. This is not a complaint! But if you like your sci-fi action packed, this ain't it. Compared to The Left Hand of Darkness, I think the themes explored in The Dispossessed are more interesting to me personally, but I liked the story and structure of Left Hand more. I liked the bits and pieces of lore sprinkled throughout Left Hand as well as the various perspectives. But I think The Dispossessed explored anarchism and collectivism more deeply than Left Hand explored gender.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I just finished Skyward, the new Brandon Sanderson book.

    It's pretty great if a little predictable sci-fi fighter pilot action book. I'm sure there will be more but I like that it pretty much works as a self contained story. Plus it reads fast (I have no idea how long it actually is) I'd recommend it.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    There are some hard reset button codes that might help you Spaniard.

    Also the gbs of storage sounds just so weird. I do guess I have like 1.5 gb on my paperwhite but I've had it for a few years now and never erased anything from it.

    The storage size and the cell service seems weird to me but 1: I don't really use PDFs/Audiobooks/Big Files on my Kindle and 2: I'm pretty comfortable turning my phone into a mobile hotspot for a few minutes if I need to update at a weird location. YMMV and all that.

    I honestly just use the kindle app on my phone at this point. I have one of the older ones w/o touchscreen, just a button on either side and the old center button with arrows up down left right around it, but it takes so much effort to update it when my android will just automatically check every time I open the app.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Started reading Quantum Magician. It's okay so far but it feels a bit like an episode of Sherlock, which I don't really care for. I do appreciate the main character's clumsiness offsetting at least some of his ubermensch abilities, and the idea of bio engineered people in the future is always neat.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    There are some hard reset button codes that might help you Spaniard.

    Also the gbs of storage sounds just so weird. I do guess I have like 1.5 gb on my paperwhite but I've had it for a few years now and never erased anything from it.

    The storage size and the cell service seems weird to me but 1: I don't really use PDFs/Audiobooks/Big Files on my Kindle and 2: I'm pretty comfortable turning my phone into a mobile hotspot for a few minutes if I need to update at a weird location. YMMV and all that.

    I honestly just use the kindle app on my phone at this point. I have one of the older ones w/o touchscreen, just a button on either side and the old center button with arrows up down left right around it, but it takes so much effort to update it when my android will just automatically check every time I open the app.

    The newer ones are way better about updating themselves to your reading position but that sorta assumes you get routine access to wifi. The paperwhite screen is also nice in that it is much gentler on your eyes than most phones though I gotta admit I have to be pushing pretty hard on screen time before that's really any kind of issue.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
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    Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Started reading Quantum Magician. It's okay so far but it feels a bit like an episode of Sherlock, which I don't really care for. I do appreciate the main character's clumsiness offsetting at least some of his ubermensch abilities, and the idea of bio engineered people in the future is always neat.

    Wait for it

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    RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    Why did nobody tell me there was a new Caiphas Cain book out?

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    I started Quantum Thief! It's weird!

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
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    The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Rchanen wrote: »
    Why did nobody tell me there was a new Caiphas Cain book out?

    I just bought the third omnibus myself.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    How Long Til Black Future Month is real good, get on that

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    There are some hard reset button codes that might help you Spaniard.

    Also the gbs of storage sounds just so weird. I do guess I have like 1.5 gb on my paperwhite but I've had it for a few years now and never erased anything from it.

    The storage size and the cell service seems weird to me but 1: I don't really use PDFs/Audiobooks/Big Files on my Kindle and 2: I'm pretty comfortable turning my phone into a mobile hotspot for a few minutes if I need to update at a weird location. YMMV and all that.

    I honestly just use the kindle app on my phone at this point. I have one of the older ones w/o touchscreen, just a button on either side and the old center button with arrows up down left right around it, but it takes so much effort to update it when my android will just automatically check every time I open the app.

    The newer ones are way better about updating themselves to your reading position but that sorta assumes you get routine access to wifi. The paperwhite screen is also nice in that it is much gentler on your eyes than most phones though I gotta admit I have to be pushing pretty hard on screen time before that's really any kind of issue.

    I was going to go with the base model, but then I got a 25% discount + another 15% discount + a 5 dollar credit as a cherry on top, so I went for the high end Paperwhite.

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    redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I started Quantum Thief! It's weird!

    The later books just keep on piling on more weird half explained ideas.

    Which I more or less enjoyed.

    They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    redx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I started Quantum Thief! It's weird!

    The later books just keep on piling on more weird half explained ideas.

    Which I more or less enjoyed.

    It's JARGON OVERLOAD but I'm just letting it wash over me like a wave of nanobots or something, eventually I'll absorb it

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    redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I started Quantum Thief! It's weird!

    The later books just keep on piling on more weird half explained ideas.

    Which I more or less enjoyed.

    It's JARGON OVERLOAD but I'm just letting it wash over me like a wave of nanobots or something, eventually I'll absorb it

    Jargon is the mind killer

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I started Quantum Thief! It's weird!

    The later books just keep on piling on more weird half explained ideas.

    Which I more or less enjoyed.

    It's JARGON OVERLOAD but I'm just letting it wash over me like a wave of nanobots or something, eventually I'll absorb it

    The author is really good about giving you a lot of exposure to his words of choice and then explaining them contextually or explicitly; it's a very well-done rollout, or at least a style of rollout I enjoyed quite a lot. It feels a bit forced when a word is explained the first or even second time it's used. I never felt like it got in the way of the feeling of the book--we are in the far future and you need new words for radically new modes!

    Steam, LoL: credeiki
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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Also I finished the book Slynx, and while there were some poignant scenes and an interestingly grim plot arc, I didn't really find it an enjoyable book. It's definitely Literary af though.
    And turns out there is a list of all the poems in the book and they're half Pushkin and I recognized literally none of them. Oops...

    Not totally sure what to read next; I think I'll have to reread something because I don't have anything new lying around. I just bought two new bookshelves for my new place so I'm currently arranging my library, which is always a pleasure. I put Philip Pullman and CS Lewis on the same narrow little shelf so they'll be happy next to each other, heh. Well, for a given value of happy...

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    chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Re: The Quantum Thief: I think the problem with heavy jargon like that is that its high risk proposition. I liked that, when I came around to grokking the particular idea/term, it does feel good, but on the other hand, there were certainly some terms in the novel that, even towards the end, could have just been replaced by the word "magic" and it would have made about as much sense. Certainly for somethings, that is ok, but I definitely felt at points that I was supposed to figure out some piece of the mystery by understanding how the system worked, and it just sailed over my head. I thought it was a good book, but it didn't really motivate me to read the sequel.

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