It went much easier after we swapped a few things around.
I think it was more the kind of fight that we just sort of inched our progress forward in each wipe rather than discovered any big breakthrough and suddenly won
The last time I did this for you, you told me you already knew what you did wrong on that fight and so I vowed to never help another fire mage again. Im sorry but thems the breaks.
I dunno. I am a pretty good arms warrior in pvp and I still haven’t solved the whole “but I have to play with other people?” Problem of pvp
I ignore a lot of the jib-jab. I communicate as much as possible but when two guys argue about where 40 people should go at the beginning of Isle of Conquest (which is every fucking time), I just ignore them, see how many are splitting off for Docks and Hangar, and join whichever group I think needs a Fire Mage. And if nobody's going, fuck it, I'm going to mid, where all of us will get incredible FPS drops and lag, and I'll maybe set 40 fucking people on fire.
Side note: There is nothing more joyous nor more in tune with what a big victorious battle should feel like, than when you have that big 40 vs. 40 in mid and you start gaining an inch or two, and the enemy just starts shrinking, and then their ranks are broken, and your hunters and warlocks and warriors are hunting them all down in the hills.
Like, it's a good fucking feeling.
The absolute worst part of any BG is to go to an area where you end up outnumbered 6 to 1, hold the flag and prevent them from capping it for over 2 minutes (My fucking CD's came back!) and then when you finally die you open the map and woops your team despite outnumbering the other guys 14 to 9 across the rest of the map somehow didn't take fucking blacksmith or mines?????? Yes, im STILL mad.
On the other hand, when you hold a minecart against 7 for 3 minutes while the rest of your team scores the other two is an amazing feeling that nobody else will recognize.
Yeah that's a fun one. I love silvershard. I love going to the top cart. I love fighting 1v3 or 1v4 on it all game. And I REALLY love knocking them all into the water below the bridge because no one expects the prot paladin to have a knockback.
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My favorite PvP moment of all time was when it was Me, Korvos, and Sidely playing Alliance and defending the mines against a horde premade. Vanilla, me on warrior, Korvos on paladin, and Sidely on dwarf priest.
They had taken all 4 of the other points, and then decided to devote all their resources on the mines for that sweet, sweet five cap.
But we held them off so completely and utterly that the rest of our team was briefly able to cap two points and make it a 3-2 game.
The horde premade settled for a 4-1 victory after that.
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On conclave, once we broke through and survived the third aspect we won. The fight gets a lot more manageable once it's down to the last aspect and the final phase is mostly cleanup/avoiding fuckups.
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On conclave, once we broke through and survived the third aspect we won. The fight gets a lot more manageable once it's down to the last aspect and the final phase is mostly cleanup/avoiding fuckups.
I think having it pointed out that you can dispel the hex improved the DPS in phase 1 and that helped a bit.
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Honestly it was the cuts. We are dragging on dps and cutting people that do less damage than they provide to the bosses in HP is a bigger help than it sounds.
The last time I did this for you, you told me you already knew what you did wrong on that fight and so I vowed to never help another fire mage again. Im sorry but thems the breaks.
I dunno. I am a pretty good arms warrior in pvp and I still haven’t solved the whole “but I have to play with other people?” Problem of pvp
I ignore a lot of the jib-jab. I communicate as much as possible but when two guys argue about where 40 people should go at the beginning of Isle of Conquest (which is every fucking time), I just ignore them, see how many are splitting off for Docks and Hangar, and join whichever group I think needs a Fire Mage. And if nobody's going, fuck it, I'm going to mid, where all of us will get incredible FPS drops and lag, and I'll maybe set 40 fucking people on fire.
Side note: There is nothing more joyous nor more in tune with what a big victorious battle should feel like, than when you have that big 40 vs. 40 in mid and you start gaining an inch or two, and the enemy just starts shrinking, and then their ranks are broken, and your hunters and warlocks and warriors are hunting them all down in the hills.
Like, it's a good fucking feeling.
The absolute worst part of any BG is to go to an area where you end up outnumbered 6 to 1, hold the flag and prevent them from capping it for over 2 minutes (My fucking CD's came back!) and then when you finally die you open the map and woops your team despite outnumbering the other guys 14 to 9 across the rest of the map somehow didn't take fucking blacksmith or mines?????? Yes, im STILL mad.
On the other hand, when you hold a minecart against 7 for 3 minutes while the rest of your team scores the other two is an amazing feeling that nobody else will recognize.
Yeah that's a fun one. I love silvershard. I love going to the top cart. I love fighting 1v3 or 1v4 on it all game. And I REALLY love knocking them all into the water below the bridge because no one expects the prot paladin to have a knockback.
Port warriors have a knockback charge pvp talent and it's wonderful
the few times we cut people in Legion it never felt like it helped, I dunno what else to tell you
Before we trimmed the raid, Paku's Aspect was dying in or around the winds every pull. Afterwards we both had higher average DPS and handled the raptors better and we no longer had the same overlap between Wail and Winds.
Like, did you see the HP the aspects lost when we went down 2 people? From 14.4m to just over 12. Raptors lost about the same percentage. The people we cut were not going to make up for that 15~million HP difference.
Like, did you see the HP the aspects lost when we went down 2 people? From 14.4m to just over 12. Raptors lost about the same percentage. The people we cut were not going to make up for that 15~million HP difference.
Like, did you see the HP the aspects lost when we went down 2 people? From 14.4m to just over 12. Raptors lost about the same percentage. The people we cut were not going to make up for that 15~million HP difference.
I'm going to choose not to feel like this is a personal attack....
I can barely remember emerald nightmare but my general memory of it is that we steamrolled it
we definitely steamrolled up to cenarius and then woops the fight was bugged so we couldnt beat it. It was fixed by next raid and we downed him in like 2 pulls and then wiped on xavius the whole night until we cut for the last pull and the boss fell over.
The REAL deal about emerald nightmare though was that I brought my hunter which I had played comparatively little compared to my paladin, but then got my BiS (for the entire expansion) legendary by like, boss #3.
The legendary system was great if you're me and not zay and got your good legendary right away on the first raid night instead of months and months and months later.
So, I'd like to tag along for the Normal run tomorrow night (I have the Jaina quest and would like to get ir done), but what iLvl should I have? I'm sitting at 383 right now.
Cuts being worth doing is not an opinion. Look at the numbers, they don't lie.
Whether we should have to do cuts, absolutely, is q thing I agree with you about. It should not be required. But on a fight where we have to do N damage in Y seconds, sometimes the best way to do that is by lowering the variable N.
So, I'd like to tag along for the Normal run tomorrow night (I have the Jaina quest and would like to get ir done), but what iLvl should I have? I'm sitting at 383 right now.
So, I'd like to tag along for the Normal run tomorrow night (I have the Jaina quest and would like to get ir done), but what iLvl should I have? I'm sitting at 383 right now.
Also when do you guys normally start?
I'm sure that's high enough for normal.
We start around 10 minutes past 6pm PST.
Kewl.
Whose door should I bang on around then, or do folks want to bang on mine?
Shirls gets someone new to flop and flirt with. Isn't this exciting!?
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I think it was more the kind of fight that we just sort of inched our progress forward in each wipe rather than discovered any big breakthrough and suddenly won
Yeah that's a fun one. I love silvershard. I love going to the top cart. I love fighting 1v3 or 1v4 on it all game. And I REALLY love knocking them all into the water below the bridge because no one expects the prot paladin to have a knockback.
They had taken all 4 of the other points, and then decided to devote all their resources on the mines for that sweet, sweet five cap.
But we held them off so completely and utterly that the rest of our team was briefly able to cap two points and make it a 3-2 game.
The horde premade settled for a 4-1 victory after that.
I think having it pointed out that you can dispel the hex improved the DPS in phase 1 and that helped a bit.
Port warriors have a knockback charge pvp talent and it's wonderful
our first xavius kill we spent like 3 hours getting only ever into p2. We cut people and immediately beat the boss next pull.
Cuts are usually good for fir-
Yeah this.
Before we trimmed the raid, Paku's Aspect was dying in or around the winds every pull. Afterwards we both had higher average DPS and handled the raptors better and we no longer had the same overlap between Wail and Winds.
yeah whatever capitalist
But I got home tipsy and tired AND YOU KILLED OPULENCE WITHOUT ME
I'm going to choose not to feel like this is a personal attack....
not here for the cuts argument just here to remember how great it felt when we finally killed his stupid ass
remember that weird time the fight bugged out hehehehehehehe
we definitely steamrolled up to cenarius and then woops the fight was bugged so we couldnt beat it. It was fixed by next raid and we downed him in like 2 pulls and then wiped on xavius the whole night until we cut for the last pull and the boss fell over.
The REAL deal about emerald nightmare though was that I brought my hunter which I had played comparatively little compared to my paladin, but then got my BiS (for the entire expansion) legendary by like, boss #3.
The legendary system was great if you're me and not zay and got your good legendary right away on the first raid night instead of months and months and months later.
Also when do you guys normally start?
Whether we should have to do cuts, absolutely, is q thing I agree with you about. It should not be required. But on a fight where we have to do N damage in Y seconds, sometimes the best way to do that is by lowering the variable N.
I'm sure that's high enough for normal.
We start around 10 minutes past 6pm PST.
Kewl.
Whose door should I bang on around then, or do folks want to bang on mine?
Okay cool.
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Whoa now.
Getting to the SW-IF tramway is pretty difficult for Hordies.
Also, I'm married, but that's a smaller issue, really.
It’s fine, the other (better!?) shadow priest carried us through conclave in the end.