Because Brexit isn't very important and Parliament has tons of spare time an MP has requested an emergency debate about Churchill, presumably to make a pompous speech about him after John McDonnell called him a villain (specifically because of the Tonypandy riots).
There are excellent grounds for calling Churchill a villain for lots of things (and also excellent grounds for calling him a hero for lots of other things), and the unthinking hero-worship is dumb, but stepping into this sort of controversy is something I'd want McDonnell to be able to avoid. Does he have no political instincts at all? Not least I'm annoyed because I'm sure if someone said Chairman Mao: hero or villain he'd um and ah over it.
Boris Johnson will no doubt see it as an opportunity to try and plug his awful biography of the man in question. It gives red meat to the Tories and ammunition for anyone looking to paint Labour as being led by people who don't really seem to like the country they're trying to lead very much.
Dutch govt introduces a new mascot for their "are you prepared for Brexit?" informational campaign.
This is so absolutely comical. Britain doesn't even have an idea on how to title the first chapter of the book of basics of Brexit, the Netherlands are so far that they have spare time for a silly mascot.
Truly staggering, unbelievable amount of malicious incompetence
Dutch govt introduces a new mascot for their "are you prepared for Brexit?" informational campaign.
Man, all we had in Ireland was a crisis government meeting the day the results were announced, an action plan for the first 60 days, a crisis management team to deal with issues going forward, a negotiation team to analyze the red lines for the entire EU and link up our red lines with every other nation with the same red lines, National Brexit business roadshows to promote awareness and preparedness for businesses of all sizes, thousands in grants and hundreds of thousands in no interest loans to provide practical support to businesses who will struggle once Britain leaves. Why didn’t we get a mascot?!
Political editor of the Sun. That same confident ignorance and amateurish stupidity shows no sign of dying out in the newer Tory MPs. Make a big tough boy speech, inadvertently knacker the trade talks. The next Chris Grayling.
Shailesh Vara, a Conservative, says the UK is negotiating the biggest business deal in its history. It has to hold its nerve, and not rule out a no deal, because the EU will give in at the last minute, he says.
Jesus wept. They're so desperately certain the EU will give in, because if it doesn't they're fucked. And us as well, of course.
Political editor of the Sun. That same confident ignorance and amateurish stupidity shows no sign of dying out in the newer Tory MPs. Make a big tough boy speech, inadvertently knacker the trade talks. The next Chris Grayling.
ah yes, who would have thought that becoming an international trade supplicant would make a foreign policy based on bravado serve you badly?
needing other governments to help us must be this global Britain and taking back control ive heard so much about
Shailesh Vara, a Conservative, says the UK is negotiating the biggest business deal in its history. It has to hold its nerve, and not rule out a no deal, because the EU will give in at the last minute, he says.
Jesus wept. They're so desperately certain the EU will give in, because if it doesn't they're fucked. And us as well, of course.
Yes the EU that is so wracked with anxiety it’s making muppets to poke fun at the UK...
Dutch govt introduces a new mascot for their "are you prepared for Brexit?" informational campaign.
Man, all we had in Ireland was a crisis government meeting the day the results were announced, an action plan for the first 60 days, a crisis management team to deal with issues going forward, a negotiation team to analyze the red lines for the entire EU and link up our red lines with every other nation with the same red lines, National Brexit business roadshows to promote awareness and preparedness for businesses of all sizes, thousands in grants and hundreds of thousands in no interest loans to provide practical support to businesses who will struggle once Britain leaves. Why didn’t we get a mascot?!
Hey now, I'm sure we can work out a trade deal so you can have it in your campaign as well on the weekends.
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No deal was always going to be on the table for one of two reasons,
1) May is still playing chicken and hoping the other side will swerve first in which case she needs no deal to act as the on coming vehicle
or
2) May has lost the plot, decided deal is impossible and hard brexit is THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE and is now simply running down the clock to make it happen
Either way May will never ever rule it out as long as she is PM.
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No deal was always going to be on the table for one of two reasons,
1) May is still playing chicken and hoping the other side will swerve first in which case she needs no deal to act as the on coming vehicle
or
2) May has lost the plot, decided deal is impossible and hard brexit is THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE and is now simply running down the clock to make it happen
Either way May will never ever rule it out as long as she is PM.
Well, hard Brexit is the will of the Parliament + Corbyn. So at this point, everybody is just gearing up for it.
Shailesh Vara, a Conservative, says the UK is negotiating the biggest business deal in its history. It has to hold its nerve, and not rule out a no deal, because the EU will give in at the last minute, he says.
Jesus wept. They're so desperately certain the EU will give in, because if it doesn't they're fucked. And us as well, of course.
Shailesh Vara, a Conservative, says the UK is negotiating the biggest business deal in its history. It has to hold its nerve, and not rule out a no deal, because the EU will give in at the last minute, he says.
Jesus wept. They're so desperately certain the EU will give in, because if it doesn't they're fucked. And us as well, of course.
Ladies and jellyspoons, my MP. *weeps*
Could be worse.
Andrea Leadsom has just read out a Valentines Day poem in the Commons..
The Leader of the House said:
Labour is red
Tories are blue
Our future is bright
With a good deal in sight
For the UK and our friends in the EU
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Famously thick as two short planks. And in today's Tory party it takes real effort to stand out from the general crowd of bumbling, shouty dimness.
God I would so dearly love both major parties to split. Get all your idiots and your swivel eyed loons and pack them into their own separate asylums. For a brand new party whose watchword is basic, boring middle of the road competence or something.
This whole thing puts me in mind of an angry customer trying to impress upon a bemused clerk that they deserve special treatment (and fawning deference) simply because they're England.
Completely blind to the looks they're getting from everyone behind them in the queue, including the rest of their party (Ireland et al), as they demand to see the manager.
Famously thick as two short planks. And in today's Tory party it takes real effort to stand out from the general crowd of bumbling, shouty dimness.
God I would so dearly love both major parties to split. Get all your idiots and your swivel eyed loons and pack them into their own separate asylums. For a brand new party whose watchword is basic, boring middle of the road competence or something.
My fear in that scenario is the lunatics would win the election. The British electorate have proven themselves to be pretty thick lately tbh, I mean it goes without saying all those frothing loons got elected into office...
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Famously thick as two short planks. And in today's Tory party it takes real effort to stand out from the general crowd of bumbling, shouty dimness.
God I would so dearly love both major parties to split. Get all your idiots and your swivel eyed loons and pack them into their own separate asylums. For a brand new party whose watchword is basic, boring middle of the road competence or something.
The wheel keeps turning until the deadline hits and they go into a hard brexit. Honestly at this point I don't see how there is any option other than hard brexit. Clearly there is not a strong enough coalition to vote for any action that would impact that and so the default no deal seems to be the only possible outcome at this point.
(I'm only posting this because I'm inclined to believe that politics home would be among the first with gossip, if there is gossip to be had)
Twitter is absolutely rife with rumors that Chuka Umunna and a number of others are about to quit the Labour Party, but I saw Kevin’s tweet as suggesting something was going to happen with the Tories. Something else I mean, besides the disastrous vote today.
(I'm only posting this because I'm inclined to believe that politics home would be among the first with gossip, if there is gossip to be had)
Twitter is absolutely rife with rumors that Chuka Umunna and a number of others are about to quit the Labour Party, but I saw Kevin’s tweet as suggesting something was going to happen with the Tories. Something else I mean, besides the disastrous vote today.
I can see a lot of people from both parties getting more and more disaffected as we get closer to the cliff. Expect shenanigans
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Yeah it is. And okay the gossip is that Chuka and several MPs from Labour are quitting at the same time Anna Soubry and several from the Tories are quitting, to form a new anti-Brexit party.
This is ALL just gossip. I can’t pin down a source. But base level British political Twitter is absolutely melting down with it, with each side attacking their “defectors” before anything is even confirmed. Even if it all turns out to be a pack of lies, it shows a very sorry state of affairs.
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Dutch govt introduces a new mascot for their "are you prepared for Brexit?" informational campaign.
There are excellent grounds for calling Churchill a villain for lots of things (and also excellent grounds for calling him a hero for lots of other things), and the unthinking hero-worship is dumb, but stepping into this sort of controversy is something I'd want McDonnell to be able to avoid. Does he have no political instincts at all? Not least I'm annoyed because I'm sure if someone said Chairman Mao: hero or villain he'd um and ah over it.
Boris Johnson will no doubt see it as an opportunity to try and plug his awful biography of the man in question. It gives red meat to the Tories and ammunition for anyone looking to paint Labour as being led by people who don't really seem to like the country they're trying to lead very much.
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I'm just surprised they didn't make it look like boris.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47237371
E: bugger, i see i was beaten
This is so absolutely comical. Britain doesn't even have an idea on how to title the first chapter of the book of basics of Brexit, the Netherlands are so far that they have spare time for a silly mascot.
Truly staggering, unbelievable amount of malicious incompetence
Man, all we had in Ireland was a crisis government meeting the day the results were announced, an action plan for the first 60 days, a crisis management team to deal with issues going forward, a negotiation team to analyze the red lines for the entire EU and link up our red lines with every other nation with the same red lines, National Brexit business roadshows to promote awareness and preparedness for businesses of all sizes, thousands in grants and hundreds of thousands in no interest loans to provide practical support to businesses who will struggle once Britain leaves. Why didn’t we get a mascot?!
Political editor of the Sun. That same confident ignorance and amateurish stupidity shows no sign of dying out in the newer Tory MPs. Make a big tough boy speech, inadvertently knacker the trade talks. The next Chris Grayling.
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Jesus wept. They're so desperately certain the EU will give in, because if it doesn't they're fucked. And us as well, of course.
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Fuck Joe Manchin
ah yes, who would have thought that becoming an international trade supplicant would make a foreign policy based on bravado serve you badly?
needing other governments to help us must be this global Britain and taking back control ive heard so much about
Yes the EU that is so wracked with anxiety it’s making muppets to poke fun at the UK...
Hey now, I'm sure we can work out a trade deal so you can have it in your campaign as well on the weekends.
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things starting off well I see
No deal was always going to be on the table for one of two reasons,
1) May is still playing chicken and hoping the other side will swerve first in which case she needs no deal to act as the on coming vehicle
or
2) May has lost the plot, decided deal is impossible and hard brexit is THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE and is now simply running down the clock to make it happen
Either way May will never ever rule it out as long as she is PM.
good work ken clarke
A red, white, and blue Brexit.
I love it
Well, hard Brexit is the will of the Parliament + Corbyn. So at this point, everybody is just gearing up for it.
Ladies and jellyspoons, my MP. *weeps*
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Could be worse.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
God I would so dearly love both major parties to split. Get all your idiots and your swivel eyed loons and pack them into their own separate asylums. For a brand new party whose watchword is basic, boring middle of the road competence or something.
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Nevermind. Though some answers on that thread are on the mark:
Completely blind to the looks they're getting from everyone behind them in the queue, including the rest of their party (Ireland et al), as they demand to see the manager.
My fear in that scenario is the lunatics would win the election. The British electorate have proven themselves to be pretty thick lately tbh, I mean it goes without saying all those frothing loons got elected into office...
EDIT: or split on it? who knows
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Nothing.
*Blairism intensifies*
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Apparently language isn't just like a bike, because I can apparently no longer read Dutch.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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Ominous.
(I'm only posting this because I'm inclined to believe that politics home would be among the first with gossip, if there is gossip to be had)
The wheel keeps turning until the deadline hits and they go into a hard brexit. Honestly at this point I don't see how there is any option other than hard brexit. Clearly there is not a strong enough coalition to vote for any action that would impact that and so the default no deal seems to be the only possible outcome at this point.
Twitter is absolutely rife with rumors that Chuka Umunna and a number of others are about to quit the Labour Party, but I saw Kevin’s tweet as suggesting something was going to happen with the Tories. Something else I mean, besides the disastrous vote today.
I can see a lot of people from both parties getting more and more disaffected as we get closer to the cliff. Expect shenanigans
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This is ALL just gossip. I can’t pin down a source. But base level British political Twitter is absolutely melting down with it, with each side attacking their “defectors” before anything is even confirmed. Even if it all turns out to be a pack of lies, it shows a very sorry state of affairs.