killing her mother? That was the best outcome given the cluster fuck of the situation. Everything else Trish did after the midway point was fucked up, though. In execution if not intent.
I disagree about that being the 'best' outcome. The alternative was a coin flip on whether or not the cops would've shot her. If they did, then the same result would've been in place only Trish's relationship with Jessica would be... not entirely destroyed.
Oh by the way there's a plot hole that I forgot to mention in my post last night.
How the fuck did Jessica not immediately go "HOLY SHIT, MOM?!" when seeing her and having a photo to stare at forever?
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That's not a plot hole, it got explained!
she was all crisped up, got plastic surgery to look normal again. Her finished appearance wasn't anything like she used to look like. IIRC, she ends up looking like one of the nurses.
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she was all crisped up, got plastic surgery to look normal again. Her finished appearance wasn't anything like she used to look like. IIRC, she ends up looking like one of the nurses.
I don't remember plastic surgery being mentioned at all. The doctor says that they're using bio tech so that she can heal / regrow her own cells and such. So wouldn't she end up looking like herself, more or less?
killing her mother? That was the best outcome given the cluster fuck of the situation. Everything else Trish did after the midway point was fucked up, though. In execution if not intent.
I disagree about that being the 'best' outcome. The alternative was a coin flip on whether or not the cops would've shot her. If they did, then the same result would've been in place only Trish's relationship with Jessica would be... not entirely destroyed.
Oh by the way there's a plot hole that I forgot to mention in my post last night.
How the fuck did Jessica not immediately go "HOLY SHIT, MOM?!" when seeing her and having a photo to stare at forever?
It wasn't really a coin flip at that point:
She'd flip out, they'd shoot her. And maybe Jessica too. And JESSICA created that entire situation at that point. So they both screwed themselves over.
And it's also been 20 years. she thought her mother was dead and she was a kid. So even if nothing else changed you can hand wave that.
she was all crisped up, got plastic surgery to look normal again. Her finished appearance wasn't anything like she used to look like. IIRC, she ends up looking like one of the nurses.
I don't remember plastic surgery being mentioned at all. The doctor says that they're using bio tech so that she can heal / regrow her own cells and such. So wouldn't she end up looking like herself, more or less?
My thoughts:
I don't think they make explicit mention of it, but I think we're meant to believe that she had facial reconstruction surgery. It is clear that she is not fully healed, due to needing to wear a wig, and the occasional shots from behind where we see severe burn scars. My interpretation was that her face wasn't her own, possibly a transplant or reconstructed from her own flesh.
she was all crisped up, got plastic surgery to look normal again. Her finished appearance wasn't anything like she used to look like. IIRC, she ends up looking like one of the nurses.
I don't remember plastic surgery being mentioned at all. The doctor says that they're using bio tech so that she can heal / regrow her own cells and such. So wouldn't she end up looking like herself, more or less?
My thoughts:
I don't think they make explicit mention of it, but I think we're meant to believe that she had facial reconstruction surgery. It is clear that she is not fully healed, due to needing to wear a wig, and the occasional shots from behind where we see severe burn scars. My interpretation was that her face wasn't her own, possibly a transplant or reconstructed from her own flesh.
I believe the doc said that because genetic modification was part of the therapy so even though her face grew back, it wasn't her original face.
That plot hole was explained in the series since I had that thought as I was watching, and at some point I went, "Oh, that's the bullshit explanation for it."
I just don't remember what the bullshit was.
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I guess that works, it just wasn't the strongest sell on their part.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
I guess that works, it just wasn't the strongest sell on their part.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
Jessica has been doing a bunch of good work, if I recall, with her PI business. She just isn't out there doing superhero stuff because that isn't her jam.
at least after season 2 jessica may be in a better place mentally to move on as she seems to have at least acknowledged a lot of the issues in her life are where her choices led her and at least understanding that maybe can make better choices going forward.
I guess that works, it just wasn't the strongest sell on their part.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
Jessica has been doing a bunch of good work, if I recall, with her PI business. She just isn't out there doing superhero stuff because that isn't her jam.
To date when doing PI work she seems to default to busting cheaters and digging up dirt. To the point of avoiding altruistic jobs. It's just when things do go down she can't not try to help.
The only time I can think of her actually trying to find an opportunity to help was when she first saved Malcom right before Killgrave showed up.
I guess that works, it just wasn't the strongest sell on their part.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
Jessica has been doing a bunch of good work, if I recall, with her PI business. She just isn't out there doing superhero stuff because that isn't her jam.
To date when doing PI work she seems to default to busting cheaters and digging up dirt. To the point of avoiding altruistic jobs. It's just when things do go down she can't not try to help.
The only time I can think of her actually trying to find an opportunity to help was when she first saved Malcom right before Killgrave showed up.
Yeah, her choice of cases are all about reinforcing her self loathing and general misanthropy. It's one of the many reasons Malcolm finally walked.
I guess that works, it just wasn't the strongest sell on their part.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
Jessica has been doing a bunch of good work, if I recall, with her PI business. She just isn't out there doing superhero stuff because that isn't her jam.
To date when doing PI work she seems to default to busting cheaters and digging up dirt. To the point of avoiding altruistic jobs. It's just when things do go down she can't not try to help.
The only time I can think of her actually trying to find an opportunity to help was when she first saved Malcom right before Killgrave showed up.
I may be thinking of The Defenders. Wasn't she, like, accepting chickens as payment or something?
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No she got that pizza though.
Matt would have accepted chickens in DDS2.
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Glad they're not gonna keep us in suspense, I guess. Here's hoping they end on a night note.
They'd have to be incredibly dense not to see the writing on the wall, so I'm sure that at least it will be an actual ending. Unlike the complete garbage that was the last 10 minutes of Luke Cage
Not sure they had time to write the ending after they found out even Iron Fist was dead. Or would care enough. Seems unlikely, JJ S3 started filming in June so unless they did some kind of quick last scene probably won't relate.
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Had to look up who Salinger is. Comparing that bio to the trailer above it sounds like they're going to make him really different in the show.
I'm gonna miss the deep dives going on off the big screen for the MCU. Characters I hadn't heard of and such.
You'll get plenty of those with the +shows no doubt.
I'm sure they'll be digging up all types of interesting folks for WandaVision and Falcon&Winter Soldier.
Probably all types of zany stuff too for the Loki show.
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Just got through seasons 1 and 2 again, right in time for the season 3 drop. Kinda wanted to make sure I had the right frame of mind for the tone of the show. I never realized how much I hated Trish as a character. What a complete pain in the ass.
Just got through seasons 1 and 2 again, right in time for the season 3 drop. Kinda wanted to make sure I had the right frame of mind for the tone of the show. I never realized how much I hated Trish as a character. What a complete pain in the ass.
If this show had more of a future is be really mad if she wasn't being set up for a full villain turn.
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I am now forgetting everything she did, but pretty sure it wasn't quite to the villain level. And no reason it would have to be if she realized how fucked up she was being.
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I am now forgetting everything she did, but pretty sure it wasn't quite to the villain level. And no reason it would have to be if she realized how fucked up she was being.
Not villain level but it easily goes down that path. She's basically obsessed with Jessica having super powers but she can't. For as much as she hates her mother for how she was brought up, she's still a child that expects to get everything she wants and doesn't give a damn about who she hurts to get it.
Edit - Though I mean, end of S2,
she also straight up killed Jessica's mother when they were just talking on the ferris wheel.
I am now forgetting everything she did, but pretty sure it wasn't quite to the villain level. And no reason it would have to be if she realized how fucked up she was being.
Not villain level but it easily goes down that path. She's basically obsessed with Jessica having super powers but she can't. For as much as she hates her mother for how she was brought up, she's still a child that expects to get everything she wants and doesn't give a damn about who she hurts to get it.
Edit - Though I mean, end of S2,
she also straight up killed Jessica's mother when they were just talking on the ferris wheel.
We went over that up thread: That was the one thing she did that was justifiable in the back half.
She jumps in to the apartment when Trish has the gun pulled on her, and next episode Jessica is in the hospital after being stabbed?
Feels like an episode got skipped.
She gets stabbed in the last scene of episode one.
I'm not sure how anyone could miss that happening at the end of episode 1.
As for me I'm three episodes in and aside from episode 2 being a sort of cut-away story for the most part, like the Karen episode in Daredevil, it doesn't seem 'slow' to me just yet. One complaint about episode 3;
there seemed to be a few sex scenes that didn't really do anything aside from fill time.
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Anybody checking out the third season? Review I read was it's a very Netflix Marvel show and real real slow.
I'm through six episodes and if I had to gauge the pace, it's moving at about the rate season 1 did. Puts it far above Punisher season 2's pace. And quality, now that I think about it.
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It wasn't really a coin flip at that point:
And it's also been 20 years. she thought her mother was dead and she was a kid. So even if nothing else changed you can hand wave that.
My thoughts:
Also i dunno, something something epigenetics.
I just don't remember what the bullshit was.
By the way Krysten Ritter talked about season 3 hopes a day or so ago. She was saying she hopes to see Jessica make more of an effort to help people / be a hero. Which would be a nice change of pace. It doesn't have to be a complete 180 personality shift or anything, mind you.
Jessica has been doing a bunch of good work, if I recall, with her PI business. She just isn't out there doing superhero stuff because that isn't her jam.
To date when doing PI work she seems to default to busting cheaters and digging up dirt. To the point of avoiding altruistic jobs. It's just when things do go down she can't not try to help.
The only time I can think of her actually trying to find an opportunity to help was when she first saved Malcom right before Killgrave showed up.
Yeah, her choice of cases are all about reinforcing her self loathing and general misanthropy. It's one of the many reasons Malcolm finally walked.
I may be thinking of The Defenders. Wasn't she, like, accepting chickens as payment or something?
Matt would have accepted chickens in DDS2.
I'm not hopeful but it would be good to have Luke Cage show up one last time as they had some nice chemistry.
I'm gonna miss the deep dives going on off the big screen for the MCU. Characters I hadn't heard of and such.
You'll get plenty of those with the +shows no doubt.
I'm sure they'll be digging up all types of interesting folks for WandaVision and Falcon&Winter Soldier.
Probably all types of zany stuff too for the Loki show.
If this show had more of a future is be really mad if she wasn't being set up for a full villain turn.
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Edit - Though I mean, end of S2,
We went over that up thread: That was the one thing she did that was justifiable in the back half.
JJ is the only Marvel show, movie, cartoon, anything, that my girlfriend truly enjoys. You can bet we'll be watching it.
She jumps in to the apartment when Trish has the gun pulled on her, and next episode Jessica is in the hospital after being stabbed?
Feels like an episode got skipped.
As for me I'm three episodes in and aside from episode 2 being a sort of cut-away story for the most part, like the Karen episode in Daredevil, it doesn't seem 'slow' to me just yet. One complaint about episode 3;