I kind of really, really like the idea of Chaos just sorta settling down for a minute for a cup and a chat. The Warp just kinda stops being all warpy for about thirty minutes, Khorne is kicked back in a little beat up wooden chair in a retail break room, one leg up over the other, foot bouncing as he chews the cud with ol Papa Nurgle.
I have developed a mild interest in 40k lore from my exposure to it through video games and such and while I doubt I'll acquire any tabletop hardware I would like to understand the different factions and history better. I've looked at some online wikis and found them a bit disorienting. Can some of you recommend a book or other source for me to do my toes into the grimdark future?
My gateway to 40k:
The games: Dawn of War 1, Dawn of War 2, Space Marine (a decent look at pre-return Ultramarines), and more recently Space Hulk and Battlefleet Gothic Armada: 2.
For 40k books, the Cain books, anything by Dan Abnett.
Also 1D4Chan which although it has NSFW pages (for serious), it DOES do a good job of pointing out a lot of fan-favorite stories and material that you just won't get reading the official wiki. Read a few articles and see if you like it.
A few more book recommendations from me. Whilst Abnett is most peoples go-to author (and for good reason!) I would put Aaron Dembski-Bowden in equal contention for Black Librarys best author. His Night Lords trilogy got me back into mini painting (first claw conversion project) and I would consider them the best 40k books.
Some less well known gems:
Fifteen Hours - great intro to the harsh life of an Imperial Guard
Execution Hour - Battlefleet Gothic novel, for all your space battle needs
Legion of the Damned - top notch space marine action. contender for most heavy metal ending of a story ever.
Eisenhorn and Ravenor for Imperial Inquisition stuff, Brothers of the Snake for Marines, Titanicus for the admech, first Gaunt's Ghosts trilogy for Guard.
Eisenhorn and Ravenor for Imperial Inquisition stuff, Brothers of the Snake for Marines, Titanicus for the admech, first Gaunt's Ghosts trilogy for Guard.
hoping this spurs GW into an official version like it did with Eisenhorn.
re: the night lords books, first claw not being particularly chaos-y is one of their main selling points. Talos himself hates the Imperium and is pretty aligned to Curze's vision in that respect. he tolerates his chapter-mates creeping towards the various chaos gods but is generally disgusted by the whole thing.
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1d4chan presents its information in a really easily understood and digestible format but you definitely need to steel your nerves against some internet bullshit of the grossest variety
Yeah no thanks. I hold my nose pretty tightly when I'm forced to look at something on reddit. I have zero patience for the likes of 4chan.
Eisenhorn and Ravenor for Imperial Inquisition stuff, Brothers of the Snake for Marines, Titanicus for the admech, first Gaunt's Ghosts trilogy for Guard.
hoping this spurs GW into an official version like it did with Eisenhorn.
re: the night lords books, first claw not being particularly chaos-y is one of their main selling points. Talos himself hates the Imperium and is pretty aligned to Curze's vision in that respect. he tolerates his chapter-mates creeping towards the various chaos gods but is generally disgusted by the whole thing.
I thought they only did that for WHFB because sales were down and thought "fuck it, time to wipe the slate clean".
40K is the big money earner, the fact that they moved the plot forward is a massive step in itself
I'm pretty sure that anyone winning is the end of the setting.
I'm trying to think of which faction would still have a continuing story line after achieving their win conditions.
Necrons maybe? They just hit the snooze button for another couple million years after purging the galaxy until life comes back. Pretty much the only ones who can play that kind of long game.
Tyranids? Assuming they either move onto the next galaxy or decide to stand and fight whatever is pursuing them after consuming all biomatter in the galaxy.
Orks? Can't fight aliens who aren't around anymore, but we still got other orks to fight.
Are the Eldar still trying to build a new god to fight the last one they fucked into existence? Depending on how that turns out, they might have a post endgame option.
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The mere thought of dipping my toes in the 4chan pool skeezes me out.
but jon, think about the lolz
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So 1d4 is a bit of a hit or miss as far as humor for Warhammer 40k goes but I do like this tidbit about the Sanguinor.
One of his appearances was on the planet Khartas when the Blood Angels were pursuing Ork Freebooterz. The Ork vessel that crashed on the planet had its warp drive go haywire, allowing Daemons of Khorne to pour through the portal that was created by the drive. The horde of Daemons were led by Ka'Bandha (the same douche of a Greater Daemon that fought Sanguinius back during the Horus Heresy), who quickly slew nearly all of the thirty Blood Angels that made planetfall. The Daemonic Horde were to finish off the surviving marines that have entrenched themselves in a ruined Cathedral, when the Sanguinor appeared out of nowhere and did the following:
- Bitchslapped Ka'Bandha out of the skies via the aerial variant of dynamic entry.
- Fought marine to daemon with him. The two fought with such speed and ferocity that they couldn't best each other.
- Broke Ka'Bandha's Axe in order to twist the odds of the battle in his favour.
- Penetrated him through the heart with his sword.
- Flew with the Daemon up to the planet's exosphere and YEETED him so hard from there into the surface that it resulted in a giant blood-filled crater (the gore is still around to this day).
The Sanguinor is pretty badass huh.
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also I'm almost done with my knight army
I have a gallant and castellan coming in, so now all I need is a helverin and some assassins
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I don't usually go in for that sort of thing, but if you do, there's a fun bit of fanfiction where Caiaphas Cain has to play poker against various deities to save his soul.
A few more book recommendations from me. Whilst Abnett is most peoples go-to author (and for good reason!) I would put Aaron Dembski-Bowden in equal contention for Black Librarys best author. His Night Lords trilogy got me back into mini painting (first claw conversion project) and I would consider them the best 40k books.
Some less well known gems:
Fifteen Hours - great intro to the harsh life of an Imperial Guard
Execution Hour - Battlefleet Gothic novel, for all your space battle needs
Legion of the Damned - top notch space marine action. contender for most heavy metal ending of a story ever.
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CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
For all Chaos fans complain about how their faction "should" win, it would probably be the worst overall thing for the setting as a whole.
I thought they only did that for WHFB because sales were down and thought "fuck it, time to wipe the slate clean".
40K is the big money earner, the fact that they moved the plot forward is a massive step in itself
Artel W have made not-Ravenor:
https://artelw.com/#!/Mr-Chair/p/124829738/category=27134181
hoping this spurs GW into an official version like it did with Eisenhorn.
re: the night lords books, first claw not being particularly chaos-y is one of their main selling points. Talos himself hates the Imperium and is pretty aligned to Curze's vision in that respect. he tolerates his chapter-mates creeping towards the various chaos gods but is generally disgusted by the whole thing.
Yeah no thanks. I hold my nose pretty tightly when I'm forced to look at something on reddit. I have zero patience for the likes of 4chan.
They call him MR CHAIR
edit: holy fuck those Striking Scorpions.
You're saying you hold your nose to Reddit, the 1d4chan stuff is far better and easier to go through than Reddit.
Imo, obviously.
PSN: Bizazedo
CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
But the tactics articles are usually pretty free of that kind of dumb stuff outside of the occasional embedded links to shitty meme pages.
I'm pretty sure that anyone winning is the end of the setting.
I'm trying to think of which faction would still have a continuing story line after achieving their win conditions.
Necrons maybe? They just hit the snooze button for another couple million years after purging the galaxy until life comes back. Pretty much the only ones who can play that kind of long game.
Tyranids? Assuming they either move onto the next galaxy or decide to stand and fight whatever is pursuing them after consuming all biomatter in the galaxy.
Orks? Can't fight aliens who aren't around anymore, but we still got other orks to fight.
Are the Eldar still trying to build a new god to fight the last one they fucked into existence? Depending on how that turns out, they might have a post endgame option.
Frankly I think that's an absolutely reasonable response and I don't blame you even a little.
but jon, think about the lolz
The Sanguinor is pretty badass huh.
I have a gallant and castellan coming in, so now all I need is a helverin and some assassins
I like to imagine it's just the "To the pain" bit from Princess Bride written out as a checklist.
"No, your ears you keep..."
Seriously, Karamazov is an ass. The only unit able to bombard his own troops
I might name my kill team the throne of judgement but i just don't know
Stupid phone
The Knight Riders
So far I have Vesper Dusk {sounds like a poetic death} Nocturnal Oath {sounds ominous} @honovere's suggestion of Lunar Knights
The Crucifixus Noctem.
or in low gothic
The Crucified Night.