Oh hey Elite thread, you're alive! Not playing myself at the moment, but keeping up with the game. Seems there is a station at Sag* now, Explorers Anchorage:
Oh hey Elite thread, you're alive! Not playing myself at the moment, but keeping up with the game. Seems there is a station at Sag* now, Explorers Anchorage:
It's pretty bare bones at the moment, no restock/repair or Cartographics. It does have outfitting though. I have some gear on the way to turn my exploration Phantom into something a bit more survivable.
The CG to get it upgraded starts in a couple of weeks, when the DW2 expedition arrives.
@dylman The CG will be out at the location itself I presume? A bit far for me to head out to right now unfortunately.
Also, saw this pic just now... I want atmospheres! (The background here is a blue gas-giant in a system with a blue sun). That pic almost makes it look like it was taken on an atmospheric planet...
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After a very generous mining trip (which could've had even more generous yields had I chose the right place to offload my Low Temp Diamonds) I now have about 78 million credits. Would you guys suggest the Krait Phantom, Krait MkII or Python as a next step up? The Kraits seem to be faster but the Python has more space for cargo bins.
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After a very generous mining trip (which could've had even more generous yields had I chose the right place to offload my Low Temp Diamonds) I now have about 78 million credits. Would you guys suggest the Krait Phantom, Krait MkII or Python as a next step up? The Kraits seem to be faster but the Python has more space for cargo bins.
All three are great multirole ships that can be made to do everything well. The Krait MkII is slightly biased toward combat, the Phantom exploration, and the Python cargo capacity. Personally I find the Python boring to fly, while the MkII is my absolute favourite ship, but that's just my opinion.
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I bought a Python!
...And then I sold it again! I'll probably stick to mining with my AspX.
I'll also probably go back to buy it again and actually fit it for combat now that I can afford to uniformly A-rate the thing. My squadron's minor faction is currently at war in a system and I'd like to take my first swing at Conflict Zones.
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After a very generous mining trip (which could've had even more generous yields had I chose the right place to offload my Low Temp Diamonds) I now have about 78 million credits. Would you guys suggest the Krait Phantom, Krait MkII or Python as a next step up? The Kraits seem to be faster but the Python has more space for cargo bins.
All three are great multirole ships that can be made to do everything well. The Krait MkII is slightly biased toward combat, the Phantom exploration, and the Python cargo capacity. Personally I find the Python boring to fly, while the MkII is my absolute favourite ship, but that's just my opinion.
Phantom takes the lead for combat over Mk II IMO. Depending on your flavor of combat I guess. Phantom can stack much more armor/integrity, which is important if you might be facing other players.
...And then I sold it again! I'll probably stick to mining with my AspX.
I'll also probably go back to buy it again and actually fit it for combat now that I can afford to uniformly A-rate the thing. My squadron's minor faction is currently at war in a system and I'd like to take my first swing at Conflict Zones.
Even if you find you don't like the combat, the python can also serve as a midsize hauling/bulk passenger ship. Virtually identical cargo space to a Type-7 but weapons actually able to fight off pirates and doesn't need Large landing pads. So if you've got a Type-7, you can sell it to help pay for the python and not lose any mission functionality.
When I first made a deliberate attempt at combat after all my time purely exploring and light trading, it was for the one Engineer's prereqs. As such, I started my combat career in low conflict zones and went in my unengineered Cobra MKIII because of the cheap rebuy. Because I'd never really sought out combat before, I didn't realize this was rather stupid because CZ ships are a lot tougher than normal pirates and RES ships. It was a real slog to get all those combat bonds with my baseline weapons and shields. I could maybe take out 1-2 small ships (1-on-1, not counting just poking at something half a dozen other ships were already focused on) most trips before needing to repair/rearm because damage was so low I couldn't kill most of them before they jumped away. On top of that, for about 1 in 3 trips I'd get real lucky and a Spec Ops group would jump in right on top of me and vaporize my ship with their first volley.
I know better now, but the power gap between stock and engineered ships and CZ and RES is kind of ridiculous.
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
After a very generous mining trip (which could've had even more generous yields had I chose the right place to offload my Low Temp Diamonds) I now have about 78 million credits. Would you guys suggest the Krait Phantom, Krait MkII or Python as a next step up? The Kraits seem to be faster but the Python has more space for cargo bins.
All three are great multirole ships that can be made to do everything well. The Krait MkII is slightly biased toward combat, the Phantom exploration, and the Python cargo capacity. Personally I find the Python boring to fly, while the MkII is my absolute favourite ship, but that's just my opinion.
Phantom takes the lead for combat over Mk II IMO. Depending on your flavor of combat I guess. Phantom can stack much more armor/integrity, which is important if you might be facing other players.
Yeah, while I try and play in open where possible, my only interest in PvP is escaping interdictions.
Speaking of which, it must be time to relink Rinzler's guide for the newer players in the thread. While it's quite old, the advice is still invaluable. [NSFW: swears]
I've been back and doing some flying now that I've got some awesome HOTASAS action going on. Being able to use a throttle for long haul trucking and a stick for precision strafing makes just general flying around a lot more fun.
Once I realized I could just go run missions for random engineering materials and then just trade them later I got way more enthusiastic about leveling up engineers however I was less enthused when I ran into an SRV mission that involved scanning an emplacement only to find out that mission has been bugged for months. Oohhhh wellllll.
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I've been mining void opals in my python and running them to a few different stations buying them for 1.6m/unit. Ice ring planets are stupid common and most have a hotspot. Over a few nights I raked in about 250m spacebux and cash purchased a Krait MkII. I was able to transfer most of my python's A rated modules to it too. Now I've got a stock python kitted for mining and a Krait I'm going to gear up for combat.
Axen, I'm in a squadron that's focused on mining (iMU). However, squadrons are really pretty useless compared to discord. Regardless of squadron status I do recommend you check out our discord for mining related questions. Its fairly chill, and although the discords been a little less active after the DW2 mining CGs there's lots of good information there and people to fly with ect. (We helped organize a lot of the mining component for the two Distant Worlds 2 mining CGs)
So if anyone wants to know the ins and outs of mining (big painite/void opal profits) or is just looking for people to wing up with swing by. We still do the normal bounty hunting, CZ and so on too. (Some of us might even engage in some piracy from time to time. ) There are groups for PC, Xbox and PS4 although our xbox group has gotten a little light.
In more elite news, it sounds like the new patch is adding two size 1 slots to all small ships and one size 1 slot to the rest. They are also adding some new modules to play the game for you (super docking computer and super cruise assist mode).
Hello E:D thread! Hope you are still enjoying the game, I'm on a hiatus right now, haven't booted the game up in weeks. Maybe next patch....
Anyway, just wanted to put this out there, Isinona is back (again)! First video in a year, watching it now. Some say they are not that good a FA-Off pilot, but I disagree... they make flying FA-Off flying look effortless and I still haven't seen smoother flying from anyone else. Well worth watching for people old and new:
Some might cry "heresy!" but Frontier: First Encounters had that too and it was honestly great. Although docking in that made ED look like a cakewalk, but still.
In practice I guess it included the equivalent of super cruise assist as well. Jump to system, bring up destinations, click on the one you wanted, go to fastest time acceleration, bang, you're there and already auto docking. Simple as that.
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I once tried docking in a coriolis station with 0 assist. I ended up getting stuck in a corner and did enough damage to the station trying to get free that it agro'd on me and blew up my ship. Autodocking and flight assist (and the ability to override them as needed) have been a real savior. IDK how often I'd use the takeoff assist though. I've never had a problem aiming for the mail slot. When leaving a station I'm usually speeding, often boosting through the slot and never wait my turn when there's a line. I definitely like the idea of supercruise assist though. I'm constantly getting distracted and overshooting my targets. It would be sweet if it could line you up for the next hyperspace jump too.
I'm less interested about the advanced docking computer than the impact of the new 2 free slots on smalls and the 1 free slot on the the rest of ships. The DBX can finally carry all the things with the new slots. Heck I theory crafted a hull tank viper 4 with over 5k effective armor (2.9k absolute). A lot of big ships can now toss a dss or limpet controller in that size 1 slot. Or you can toss in a size 1 thermal hull reinforcement to augment your light weight reactive hull and free up a larger slot for something else...
I will say that undocking in a belugia is a pain Axen, but I'm not sure I'd trust the docking computer to undock me after watching how the npc's stall and get blown up....
The idea that they're finally spending some time adding new tools through ship customization is very interesting. I always felt that there were way too few important choices when it came to your ship construction.
I keep shaking my head when they talk about how the supercruise computer "optimally" brings you in and avoids a "loop of shame" when the most efficient approaches have involved screaming in like a bat out of hell before looping into a gravity brake that spits you out inches from the drop in point and in alignment with the mail slot. Said loop makes you dramatically harder to interdict too.
The computer still gonna be useful for bulk trading or long range passenger missions though.
Having visited some Thargoid stuff, I decided to head even deeper into the black and went to a Guardian site and Beacon. The Sentinels there caught me off guard, but I was able, I think to fully complete one of the sites. And the beacon pointed me to a second one I landed at and logged out for the night. Here's a little gallery of my fun:
So, my dad bought this for me on sale for Xbox so I could play with him. Before I knew of this, I'd bought the game on PC because it was on sale and I like exploring things.
So now I have it on both. I understand today is the big update day for newbie players like me, so I'm into that. I like the idea of going out to find derelict ships and based on my reading in the last few days I feel like there might be some still undiscovered derelicts out there. For example, the two companion ships to the Zurara from the Destiny Project could potentially be floating out there. Maybe there's more than 15 generation ships too?
How likely does that seem, based on Frontier? Or is that kind of stuff only patched in around updates or in conjunction with community events and the like? And I realize it's going to be months before I can get enough money and practice and stuff to even think about jumping out on a fools errand like searching the Hawking Gap or Conflux for such a thing.
They do tend to leave things floating around unannounced. IIRC a few times they got egg on their face because players found things before they were done.
As for "months before I can explore", that depends on how long your play sessions are but you could potentially have a ship capable of long range exploration by the weekend. First off, I always recommend newbies beeline for the cobra mk3 since it's by far the best ship in its weight class. It's a workhorse that will serve you well until you branch out into more specialized ships. Some relatively low investment ways to make money are an exploration circuit known as the "road to riches" (Google it), or imo the more entertaining task of mining ice diamonds and void opals and then transporting them to lucrative markets.
You can probably get away with both of those tasks with an adder, but a cobra would be more comfortable for the mining.
IIRC the most popular long jumper ships, sorted by expense, are the Hauler, diamondback explorer, asp explorer, one of the kraits, and the anaconda. A Diamondback should be well within range of purchase after only a few loads of void opals. Unlocking access to the engineers to upgrade your jump drive, and unlocking the guardian fsd booster will be their own goals to work towards to really maximize your jump range.
Well I got started on PC a bit last night. I only had an hour or so, and didn't realize some of that was going to be tying my steam account to a new Frontier account.
I've been doing the training. I struggled for a while with KB+M flying, until I realized how inordinately stupid it was to make the mouse x-axis be roll, making that yaw and rolling on the keyboard was much better. Taking off and docking weren't so bad, luckily the sidewinder fits through the slot in whatever orientation though, because matching the roll of the station was tough coming in. I ended with the basic combat tutorial, which either shows how crappy KB+M flying is, how terrible I am at it, or how completely shit the Sidewinder is at turning, I'm not sure yet. I did figure out that turning faster is a range on the throttle rather than a uniform "slower is tighter" though.
[edit]Oh yeah, I did realize at some point that the tutorial voice suggested moving energy pips around to different systems to make shit work better, but the game didn't actually tell me how to do that. I just didn't bother looking it up and muscled through the end of the combat tutorial without it, because I had to get to bed soon and I was already burned out on stopping every minute or so to look up a binding, or to bind something. The tutorial did okay at telling me the previous keybindings at least for supercruise and the like, but completely failed at telling me HOW to move pips when telling me that I should, and I just couldn't be bothered to stop playing AGAIN to look something up.
Don't waste too much time with the tutorials. They're pretty garbage at preparing you for gameplay. Especially the combat missions. Familiarize yourself with the flight controls and then hop into the game.
Default energy pip controls for keyboard are the arrow keys. They're more intuitively used when using a joystick, and there they're controlled by the hat switch.
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I am pretty effective with KB&M after remapping a bunch of controls. I've got pitch and yaw on the mouse. W and S control the Z axis, A and D do roll and finally E and F control speed.
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It's pretty bare bones at the moment, no restock/repair or Cartographics. It does have outfitting though. I have some gear on the way to turn my exploration Phantom into something a bit more survivable.
The CG to get it upgraded starts in a couple of weeks, when the DW2 expedition arrives.
Also, saw this pic just now... I want atmospheres! (The background here is a blue gas-giant in a system with a blue sun). That pic almost makes it look like it was taken on an atmospheric planet...
https://i.redd.it/spjva3t6bwh21.png
Does this remind you of something? (Apparently the background was made in Planet Coaster, fitting!)
Reminder, these ships are huuuuuge:
But, here is what's up; If you are low on high grade materials for mining, and don't mind a 1500ly trip, there is a good way of stocking up in HIP 36601:
https://reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/atd8oy/worried_about_raw_materials_do_this_one_little/
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All three are great multirole ships that can be made to do everything well. The Krait MkII is slightly biased toward combat, the Phantom exploration, and the Python cargo capacity. Personally I find the Python boring to fly, while the MkII is my absolute favourite ship, but that's just my opinion.
...And then I sold it again! I'll probably stick to mining with my AspX.
I'll also probably go back to buy it again and actually fit it for combat now that I can afford to uniformly A-rate the thing. My squadron's minor faction is currently at war in a system and I'd like to take my first swing at Conflict Zones.
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Phantom takes the lead for combat over Mk II IMO. Depending on your flavor of combat I guess. Phantom can stack much more armor/integrity, which is important if you might be facing other players.
Even if you find you don't like the combat, the python can also serve as a midsize hauling/bulk passenger ship. Virtually identical cargo space to a Type-7 but weapons actually able to fight off pirates and doesn't need Large landing pads. So if you've got a Type-7, you can sell it to help pay for the python and not lose any mission functionality.
When I first made a deliberate attempt at combat after all my time purely exploring and light trading, it was for the one Engineer's prereqs. As such, I started my combat career in low conflict zones and went in my unengineered Cobra MKIII because of the cheap rebuy. Because I'd never really sought out combat before, I didn't realize this was rather stupid because CZ ships are a lot tougher than normal pirates and RES ships. It was a real slog to get all those combat bonds with my baseline weapons and shields. I could maybe take out 1-2 small ships (1-on-1, not counting just poking at something half a dozen other ships were already focused on) most trips before needing to repair/rearm because damage was so low I couldn't kill most of them before they jumped away. On top of that, for about 1 in 3 trips I'd get real lucky and a Spec Ops group would jump in right on top of me and vaporize my ship with their first volley.
I know better now, but the power gap between stock and engineered ships and CZ and RES is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, while I try and play in open where possible, my only interest in PvP is escaping interdictions.
Speaking of which, it must be time to relink Rinzler's guide for the newer players in the thread. While it's quite old, the advice is still invaluable. [NSFW: swears]
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Once I realized I could just go run missions for random engineering materials and then just trade them later I got way more enthusiastic about leveling up engineers however I was less enthused when I ran into an SRV mission that involved scanning an emplacement only to find out that mission has been bugged for months. Oohhhh wellllll.
I have a squadron I made, Ghost Raccoons, that has been the default. We rock out of Obambojas.
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So if anyone wants to know the ins and outs of mining (big painite/void opal profits) or is just looking for people to wing up with swing by. We still do the normal bounty hunting, CZ and so on too. (Some of us might even engage in some piracy from time to time. ) There are groups for PC, Xbox and PS4 although our xbox group has gotten a little light.
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Awesome! Let me know if you ever want company. I did some of that back in January but always game for more. I still need to actually go Xeno hunt.
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Anyway, just wanted to put this out there, Isinona is back (again)! First video in a year, watching it now. Some say they are not that good a FA-Off pilot, but I disagree... they make flying FA-Off flying look effortless and I still haven't seen smoother flying from anyone else. Well worth watching for people old and new:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7iB9fyCTmPk
Automates both docking and undocking.
In practice I guess it included the equivalent of super cruise assist as well. Jump to system, bring up destinations, click on the one you wanted, go to fastest time acceleration, bang, you're there and already auto docking. Simple as that.
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I will say that undocking in a belugia is a pain Axen, but I'm not sure I'd trust the docking computer to undock me after watching how the npc's stall and get blown up....
The computer still gonna be useful for bulk trading or long range passenger missions though.
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So now I have it on both. I understand today is the big update day for newbie players like me, so I'm into that. I like the idea of going out to find derelict ships and based on my reading in the last few days I feel like there might be some still undiscovered derelicts out there. For example, the two companion ships to the Zurara from the Destiny Project could potentially be floating out there. Maybe there's more than 15 generation ships too?
How likely does that seem, based on Frontier? Or is that kind of stuff only patched in around updates or in conjunction with community events and the like? And I realize it's going to be months before I can get enough money and practice and stuff to even think about jumping out on a fools errand like searching the Hawking Gap or Conflux for such a thing.
As for "months before I can explore", that depends on how long your play sessions are but you could potentially have a ship capable of long range exploration by the weekend. First off, I always recommend newbies beeline for the cobra mk3 since it's by far the best ship in its weight class. It's a workhorse that will serve you well until you branch out into more specialized ships. Some relatively low investment ways to make money are an exploration circuit known as the "road to riches" (Google it), or imo the more entertaining task of mining ice diamonds and void opals and then transporting them to lucrative markets.
You can probably get away with both of those tasks with an adder, but a cobra would be more comfortable for the mining.
IIRC the most popular long jumper ships, sorted by expense, are the Hauler, diamondback explorer, asp explorer, one of the kraits, and the anaconda. A Diamondback should be well within range of purchase after only a few loads of void opals. Unlocking access to the engineers to upgrade your jump drive, and unlocking the guardian fsd booster will be their own goals to work towards to really maximize your jump range.
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I've been doing the training. I struggled for a while with KB+M flying, until I realized how inordinately stupid it was to make the mouse x-axis be roll, making that yaw and rolling on the keyboard was much better. Taking off and docking weren't so bad, luckily the sidewinder fits through the slot in whatever orientation though, because matching the roll of the station was tough coming in. I ended with the basic combat tutorial, which either shows how crappy KB+M flying is, how terrible I am at it, or how completely shit the Sidewinder is at turning, I'm not sure yet. I did figure out that turning faster is a range on the throttle rather than a uniform "slower is tighter" though.
[edit]Oh yeah, I did realize at some point that the tutorial voice suggested moving energy pips around to different systems to make shit work better, but the game didn't actually tell me how to do that. I just didn't bother looking it up and muscled through the end of the combat tutorial without it, because I had to get to bed soon and I was already burned out on stopping every minute or so to look up a binding, or to bind something. The tutorial did okay at telling me the previous keybindings at least for supercruise and the like, but completely failed at telling me HOW to move pips when telling me that I should, and I just couldn't be bothered to stop playing AGAIN to look something up.
Default energy pip controls for keyboard are the arrow keys. They're more intuitively used when using a joystick, and there they're controlled by the hat switch.
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012