Rikku’s chain is probably still better for mages than Tidus’s, though obviously not as good as Strago’s.
I say this because of both the enhanced field effect, and because Rikku can use the Bard skill Mana’s Paean to boost party MAG by 15%. Which isn’t anything to rival what Strago can provide to mages, but it’s more than Tidus can.
Jecht Burst 1. A burst from the days when Endark was enough on its own. It's a bog-standard 8-hits + Endark and commands that do 4 single hits or 2 AOE hits.
On the one hand, this actually works with his legend materia from his legend dive. On the other hand, the Fire Burst and Fire Ultra I have for him have more and better effects, and I can more easily create a Fire team in X torment than a Dark team.
I'm probably not likely to use this soul break, but +10 ATK is +10 ATK, I suppose.
Rikku’s chain is probably still better for mages than Tidus’s, though obviously not as good as Strago’s.
I say this because of both the enhanced field effect, and because Rikku can use the Bard skill Mana’s Paean to boost party MAG by 15%. Which isn’t anything to rival what Strago can provide to mages, but it’s more than Tidus can.
Tidus is better at running up the chain count though with dual cast water. Also quickcast all 2 is a nice bonus. In my opinion. I only have tidus.
Balthier SB Physical Water All
Bartz OSSB Wind / Water / Fire / Earth 1 Target
Garnet SB 2 Summoning Magic Water, Magic Buff S
Terra SB Magic Water All, Magic Buff S
Tidus OSSB Water / NE 1 Target
Tidus Materia EnWater at Start of Battle
Tidus BSB 10 Phys Water/NE, ATKM DEFS,
1/3, Tidus Arcane. I don't have any of his ultras, but I have his arcane, OSB and glint.
TBH I just go Sapphire Bullet into Arcane OS for my Marilith Kill. Sub 20 no problem.
Yeah, this. Glint>ability spam>AOSB is pretty darn good, and it's slightly faster than USB>finisher. Also, if the Glint has quickcast, then you can usually get enough meter to use it before the AOSB to quickcast it out.
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Balthier SB Physical Water All
Bartz OSSB Wind / Water / Fire / Earth 1 Target
Garnet SB 2 Summoning Magic Water, Magic Buff S
Terra SB Magic Water All, Magic Buff S
Tidus OSSB Water / NE 1 Target
Tidus Materia EnWater at Start of Battle
Tidus BSB 10 Phys Water/NE, ATKM DEFS,
That's the hardest one of those we've had in a while.
I had to quad-stack ATK breaks just to make his last phase manageable. That part is Torment-level rough.
I was able to effectively steamroll him via a fire chain, bartz lmr and glint, gilgamesh fire burst, faris fire burst, and one of Lenna's USBs. Wasn't able to get the USB triggered before Gilgamesh died, but the rest survived and so by the end of the chain I was doing 5x 9999 through protect.
Balthier SB Physical Water All
Bartz OSSB Wind / Water / Fire / Earth 1 Target
Garnet SB 2 Summoning Magic Water, Magic Buff S
Terra SB Magic Water All, Magic Buff S
Tidus OSSB Water / NE 1 Target
Tidus Materia EnWater at Start of Battle
Tidus BSB 10 Phys Water/NE, ATKM DEFS,
Not quite enough for a full team.
Not to rain (ha ha) on your parade too much, but those SBs for balthier and Terra are pretty bad, and the Garnet SB is marginal at best. That's a reasonable Tidus kit though, and Bartz can hold you until you get more water stuff (possibly including other parts of his kit). If you really need a water team for some realm dungeon or event at the moment, I would suggest Bartz, Tidus, healer, buffer. Either entrust bot or debuffer/breaker in the last slot.
I had to roll out a “double healer” team to take care of A++ Gilgamesh. By which I mean Lenna and Kelger. Used Smoldering Fire for his damage, because this fight made me resort to weird strategies.
Also used Phoenix for healing, though Enkidu would work.
As if to mock me for talking about my daily draw history, today the game served up Rinoa's ice brave USB on the daily draw. For many accounts that would probably be a huge cheer, but I don't know that I'm likely to ever use it ahead of Rinoa's ice chase USB. Oh well, I'll take the extra MAG, for sure.
I guess it depends on how much the chase attacks are doing, and if they beat out getting an Overstrike every 3 turns or so.
Also, sometimes the stats make a difference; her ice Ultra boosts MAG by 30%, whereas the ice Brave Ultra boosts Black Magic Damage by 30%. Which are two quite different effects.
TBH, I used to love Chase USBs but there's something about doing 99999 damage on a Lv2 Bravery Attack. I love looking at that Chain Counter go up but...99999 on demand.
Most of my daily draw hits were silly-useless LMRs and questionable uniques. Yuna USB2 - the summoning-damage one with no en-element - was the best thing I’d gotten.
And today I pulled Nanaki CSB. Sit on a mountain with your mouth open, and eventually a roast duck will fly in.
It was so unexpected that when I first saw it, I thought “huh, pretty rose-crown Ultra, looks like a healer relic.” It took staring to see “Chain” instead of “Ultra.” I was not prepared for a roast duck to the face.
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Finally!!!!!
I'm not sure if I can replicate it though.
Tidus went SS>SS>Power break> Chain >SS> BSB2>Power Break>SS
OK went BSB>Wall>Command2>Command2>Voltech>Entrust elarra>Voltech a bunch> BSB>Voltech>Entrust to elarra
Maria just cast chain waterga over and over with her USB in there.
Alphinaud was repsonsible for trying to make his hones last as long as possible. Casts protect, SSB, magicite, second wall, finally BSB.
Elarra has to juggle USB and BSB and mage hymn.
In order to beat berserk I had to wait until after savage whatever in phase 2 radiant shields him for 50k damage, then summon famfrit for 76k and just pray. Not looking forward to trying again tomorrow.
I guess it depends on how much the chase attacks are doing, and if they beat out getting an Overstrike every 3 turns or so.
Also, sometimes the stats make a difference; her ice Ultra boosts MAG by 30%, whereas the ice Brave Ultra boosts Black Magic Damage by 30%. Which are two quite different effects.
Vs Chupon, her chase gets up to 6x9000 pretty quickly. Serah chain is real good.
Guess I will see which is better vs Gerogero.
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Pulled my first lord of the rings: nine. It’s.... dupe Vivi bsb. Then one more mythril to expand the vault.
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Except for magic. *sigh*
I say this because of both the enhanced field effect, and because Rikku can use the Bard skill Mana’s Paean to boost party MAG by 15%. Which isn’t anything to rival what Strago can provide to mages, but it’s more than Tidus can.
So besides switching people to the back row, I dropped Shellga for Dispel. Also instead of going USB x2 into AOSB, I went BSB, USB then AOSB.
Not a water chain, but Tidus Arcane Overstrike!
ACCEPTABLE
E: wish this thing was +water
Rikku Chain
Heck, yes.
On the one hand, this actually works with his legend materia from his legend dive. On the other hand, the Fire Burst and Fire Ultra I have for him have more and better effects, and I can more easily create a Fire team in X torment than a Dark team.
I'm probably not likely to use this soul break, but +10 ATK is +10 ATK, I suppose.
His Overstrike sword is +water.
Tidus is better at running up the chain count though with dual cast water. Also quickcast all 2 is a nice bonus. In my opinion. I only have tidus.
Yeah, I've got that already.
Got his arcane overstrike. Let me edit.
Water. Hm.
Not quite enough for a full team.
The legend continues...
Seems to be a highly-specific anti-Yunalesca tool. The X Torment is Yunalesca, and she likes to do Holy damage and inflict Sap.
TBH I just go Sapphire Bullet into Arcane OS for my Marilith Kill. Sub 20 no problem.
Yeah, this. Glint>ability spam>AOSB is pretty darn good, and it's slightly faster than USB>finisher. Also, if the Glint has quickcast, then you can usually get enough meter to use it before the AOSB to quickcast it out.
Well, usually you'll want a healer.
That's the hardest one of those we've had in a while.
I had to quad-stack ATK breaks just to make his last phase manageable. That part is Torment-level rough.
I was able to effectively steamroll him via a fire chain, bartz lmr and glint, gilgamesh fire burst, faris fire burst, and one of Lenna's USBs. Wasn't able to get the USB triggered before Gilgamesh died, but the rest survived and so by the end of the chain I was doing 5x 9999 through protect.
Not to rain (ha ha) on your parade too much, but those SBs for balthier and Terra are pretty bad, and the Garnet SB is marginal at best. That's a reasonable Tidus kit though, and Bartz can hold you until you get more water stuff (possibly including other parts of his kit). If you really need a water team for some realm dungeon or event at the moment, I would suggest Bartz, Tidus, healer, buffer. Either entrust bot or debuffer/breaker in the last slot.
Also used Phoenix for healing, though Enkidu would work.
Also, sometimes the stats make a difference; her ice Ultra boosts MAG by 30%, whereas the ice Brave Ultra boosts Black Magic Damage by 30%. Which are two quite different effects.
And today I pulled Nanaki CSB. Sit on a mountain with your mouth open, and eventually a roast duck will fly in.
It was so unexpected that when I first saw it, I thought “huh, pretty rose-crown Ultra, looks like a healer relic.” It took staring to see “Chain” instead of “Ultra.” I was not prepared for a roast duck to the face.
I'm not sure if I can replicate it though.
Tidus went SS>SS>Power break> Chain >SS> BSB2>Power Break>SS
OK went BSB>Wall>Command2>Command2>Voltech>Entrust elarra>Voltech a bunch> BSB>Voltech>Entrust to elarra
Maria just cast chain waterga over and over with her USB in there.
Alphinaud was repsonsible for trying to make his hones last as long as possible. Casts protect, SSB, magicite, second wall, finally BSB.
Elarra has to juggle USB and BSB and mage hymn.
In order to beat berserk I had to wait until after savage whatever in phase 2 radiant shields him for 50k damage, then summon famfrit for 76k and just pray. Not looking forward to trying again tomorrow.
Daily disco Ceodore USB dupe.
That's a nice get for Yuna.
Vs Chupon, her chase gets up to 6x9000 pretty quickly. Serah chain is real good.
Guess I will see which is better vs Gerogero.
I've only got his glint and an SSB, so ok. If anything, it's a 6* +fire weapon.
E: oh hey, this is enough to make it an 8*. I should probably do that instead of sharding it.
I've gotten discoes from 9, 10, 12, 14, T, and 0. That's insane.