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[FFXIV] Job Action trailer out now. So shiny!

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I'm not sure what I'm more mad about.

    No bunny dudes,

    Or no buff Ronzo ladies.

    I am not salt but no buff Ronzo ladies does increase my sodium levels.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    it's so tired

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Larlar
    yeah just like they had Lore Reasons for no male mithra/miqote and female galka/roegadyn
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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    they write the lore

    there isn't a higher power in the way

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Larlar
    I'm afraid it's just out of their hands :rotate:

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    This is the first time I’ve seen a class and race reveal and thought, “Y’all fucked up”

    More for the race than the class, but still

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    It's me, I'm the one excited for another ranged DPS, I will play the spinny people who throw things.

    Genderlocked races is the dumbest shit on the planet though, just fucking let people play what they want

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    we will never escape the regen/shield binary

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    I dont really care about Dancer being a dps, I'm just disappointed we're (probably) not getting a new healer.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    the thing about dancer being a healer that would have been great is it might have meant that we get some healing gear that isn't just white robes

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  • Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    Hyur
    I really wanted Dancers to be a melee healer ala Warhammer Online's Disciple of Khaine but I know that's just me getting my stupid hopes up.

    I had no personal investment in bun boys prior to the event but I think their inclusion would have been far better than what we got.

    A whole lot of :? out of me on today's announcements.

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    I am excited about the new areas. I love the look of the hub, the Trust system seems neat, and I’m a Nomura mark so I’m sure I’ll dig the new 8-mans

    It’s just that it ended on a real sour note for me

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Elezen
    Despite it being a logistical nightmare, yeah I was hoping for melee healer as well

    That's KIND OF what they were in FFXI

    Also I was looking forward to bunny boys and considering using a fantasia

  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Hella disappointed about no bun bois to be honest, but hyped to play DNC.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Making huge buff boys with bunny ears would have been a bold move, but I'd respect it

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Larlar
    that would have been awesome

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    I don't have any FF background beyond XIV, so I don't have any connection to Dancers necessarily being healers and am fine with Physical Ranged DPS finally getting a third class when they were the only category with just two and the rest either had three or four already. I guess my lack of grounding in series lore also makes me more amenable to the handling of the new races.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Larlar
    it's not that FF dancers are historically healers I think, they're historically supporters of the buffers or debuffer types if anything, it's just that there's a lot more DPS in the queues than healers or tanks.

    as for the races, lore-wise no male viera is consistent with all the past games that featured viera, but that's a dumb reason to not have male ones just like it was dumb not having male mithra/miqote in past iterations of that race.

    Also it was irritating the way they allowed speculation of male viera to flourish after paris fanfest up to now without doing anything to dissuade it, then did a fakeout reveal for ronso like it was going to be male viera until the last second. Ha ha, you got us, good one guys, eat a dick.

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    Dancers as Ranged DPS has me imagining Xena: Warrior Princess jumping off a chocobo.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Hyur
    I'm getting rather uncomfortable with porn models as a race. I had XIV pegged as a more inclusive game for the longest time, but I was wrong. I can't really defend my love of the game whilst surrounded by literal bunny girls in revealing outfits. The cop out that there are "lore reasons" is as lazy and disingenuous as Silent breathing through her skin in MGS. Don't fucking lie, you didn't bother with cute male and muscled female character models because so far barely anyone plays as one.

    Yoshi-P, don't make me dislike you.

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Hyur
    i don't really care about the races because I'm not gonna change race and I don't play healer so overall good fan fest the trailer ruled

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    For me the most disappointing part of the festival so far is going to check on the store status just now and finding they still haven't made enough boxes to go around.

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    I don't know if it's even a waiting list, as in reserving a spot to wait for one, it just gives you a link to get emailed if ever they become in stock again. Yeah I could preorder a different edition now and get the ingame preorder bonuses now, but I like boxes.

  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    wow an entire race of big buff gay furries huh. ain’t nothing better than that

    (though the screenshots I saw the concept art looked great and the execution bad so idk. Catboys might still be better)

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  • Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    Hyur
    I'm still bummed that Dancer isn't a support class but I finally got around to watching the revel video and a) the animations seem pretty neat and b) Square decided to play Vamo'alla Flamenco from FFIX in the background so I'm instantly on board.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    it's not that FF dancers are historically healers I think, they're historically supporters of the buffers or debuffer types if anything, it's just that there's a lot more DPS in the queues than healers or tanks.

    as for the races, lore-wise no male viera is consistent with all the past games that featured viera, but that's a dumb reason to not have male ones just like it was dumb not having male mithra/miqote in past iterations of that race.

    Also it was irritating the way they allowed speculation of male viera to flourish after paris fanfest up to now without doing anything to dissuade it, then did a fakeout reveal for ronso like it was going to be male viera until the last second. Ha ha, you got us, good one guys, eat a dick.

    Class diversity for a role does not lead to an increase of players performing that role. WoW has tried that for over a decade to fix their tank shortage issue and it’s never worked.

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    Also it was irritating the way they allowed speculation of male viera to flourish after paris fanfest up to now without doing anything to dissuade it
    Given that their plan, which had to be decided far in advance in order to have something to show off in trailers, was to release playable Viera ladies and Hrothgar men, they were already in a bit of a no-win situation. If they went with announce Viera, hard confirm that only female Viera will be playable, then everyone is incensed and demanding what the deal is, even if the reason why is that the plan is to also introduce a separate race with male-only characters playable to balance things out. Unless Hrothgar were ready to announce then and there in simultaneous reveals, they can't really go with anything other than "Stay tuned" without tipping or spoiling that announcement.

    That or maybe SE honestly assumed people would look at a Viera reveal in which all characters shown are women and think, "Oh, they're doing that again" instead of "No, they can't possibly be doing that again."

  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Roegadyn
    I think they’ll notice people being upset and eventually commit resources to make the missing gender models but it’ll take time

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    I wouldn't rule it out, but I also wouldn't expect it.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Elezen
    Catboys and Roeladies was such a great step forward after FFXI that I was dead sure we'd get male Viera

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    It's like shooting yourself in the foot, having to wear a cast for months, going through painful physical therapy, finally overcoming it and being able to walk normally again, and then shooting yourself in the SAME GODDAMN SPOT.

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Roegadyn
    There was a guy in my high school that shot himself in the face with a potato gun twice, about 4 months apart.

    Somehow no serious injuries either time.

    turtleant on
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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    a new healer doesn't have to get new healer players into the playstyle, it just has to give players who enjoy healing something exciting and fun by offering a new class

    can guarantee you gunbreaker and dark knight do not/did not meaningfully long term increase the number of tanks

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    I make my job/class decisions entirely on aesthetic, and I know that's a weird and rare thing

    why do you think I'm still playing MCH

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Speaking of, that MCH rework that's coming better be good because boy howdy you think it's usage rate is bad with one much more helpful class to go up against, wait till DNC is in.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    I don't know what MCH can offer in terms of party utility because I don't know what most other DPS classes offer

    but I do know that I would like SOMETHING to help the party beyond a specific turret ability

    (psst make wildfire work off of party damage and fudge the numbers)

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
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  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    Biggest disappointment of the presentation was that Yoshi didn't wear the dancer outfit.

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Roegadyn
    wait okay so Dancers are a DPS class

    and there's no male bunnies, but instead, Buff Men?

    this is the summary of the keynote?

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