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[PlayStation 5] It's out now! Commence de-boxing.
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PS5 has been revealed and with it, the lineup of games that exclusives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8apW-UFhGZg/PS5 is released. Happy hunting to all.
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The hi-def audio sounds nice. Would that require proprietary headphones from Sony, or would any APT-X headphones benefit from that?
Hope I don't get get laid off between now and then.
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Definitely curious to see what they do, but it'll take a lot to get me onboard as an early adopter.
... don't tell Sony, but the words "Launch Title: Horizon Zero Dawn 2" might just seal the deal.
Based on the first release date of the primary releases (like, ignoring the Slim and Pro versions and whatnot), Sony has been pretty consistently releasing a new generation every 5-7 years.
Going by the NA release dates;
PS: Sept 9, 1995
PS2: Oct 26, 2000
PS3: Nov 17, 2006
PS4: Nov 15, 2013
Extrapolating from that, a PS5 around Nov 2020 would be 7 years between major revisions, no different than the 3 to 4, and longer than the earlier generation gaps.
Now, noted, for those of us who joined this generation on the later end of things (Like, Nov 2017, I think), ~3 years is kind of 'quick' feeling to me too, but I get that factually there were people who'd already been into the console for nearly half a decade when I joined in.
I think part of it is the unfortunate reality of the time scale for these generations of consoles; it feels like it takes years for teams to master whatever quirks are involved and make the games shine, reaching their full potential. Which isn't to say that release titles are inherently bad, but years of experience does show too.
Of course, that also ignores other console releases that might be adding to the feeling that there's a constant stream of the things coming out.
That and, for me, 2016 until now feels like yesterday. We've been going in warp speed every year. Because of a certain something.
I’m sure you’re thinking of something else, but the certain something that makes my life seem to be going by at warp speed is age. They’re not joking when they say that life speeds up when you get older.
Topically, I’m looking forward to the PS5. All the PC game store bullshit has firmly removed me from the PC gaming camp and returned me to the loving arms of console gaming. (I mean, releasing a game on a platform but having it exclusive to one store? Fuck off with that. It doesn’t help that Linux development is still a bloody shambles, and Steam has turned into a shovelware mine. I’ve been giving serious thought to having them close my account because I’m so annoyed about the whole thing. But I digress.)
The addition of backwards compatibility has completely sold me, as I’ll be able to trade my Pro in toward the PS5 and still play all the games I’ve bought digitally.
One of the many, many, MANY lessons Sony (presumably) learned from hobbling themselves with the PS3. Weird system architectures are no bueno.
If there's one thing that can be said about Sony, it's that they've never made it difficult to upgrade the HDD in their consoles. I doubt that they'll make it difficult with the PS5.
That's really bizarre and for me puts the time in context. I still can the PS4 "next gen" too! I've become old.
On topic - the wired article has me excited but I just love new hardware - I'm mostly excited for the Oculus Quest hopefully next month!
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I wouldn't put money on it.
if sony is in the lead again? zero chance. everyone else probably will though. best outcome for crossplay is probably microsoft pulling to parity or a slight lead since they've spoken about opening up crossplay too much to back out now and if they're threatening sony will have to cave. i honestly hope they do i absolutely hate trying to figure out where my friends are playing games, and it leads to me playing multiplayer stuff significantly less because of the hassle.
There's nothing in the pipeline because Sony decided it was time for the PS5. Not the other way around.
You're probably not wrong, but I still welcome the downtime.
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I bought a Pro last week ☹️
Almost my entire PS4 library is digital since I don't want a bunch of physical stuff cluttering up my room.
I'm hoping that I'll be able to log onto my PS account on a PS5 and be able to automatically download and play PS4 games, but I'm not putting it past them to make me rebuy stuff until I hear otherwise.
I still won't get one just on faith, but as soon as a title comes along that I need, I'll be there. Odds are it'll be Horizon Zero Dawn 2 or whatever they end up calling it.
Personally I'm hoping that the architecture similarities will make the cross-generational game period much longer so I can make a move from Pro to inevitable Pro.
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Well it really depends on how this new SSD tech is implemented, If its just a standard NVMe drive on a PCI-E 4 slot that they let you remove then yeah no problem. The way I see it is if its more of a custom solution then there may be a bigger issue.
The the real issue here two fold:
The two solutions would be
the second is an inelegant but cheaper solution for the end user
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I'd expect them to have a regular drive for storage, and the SSD just for running the OS and active games, kind of like how the 360 originally used the HDD.
The super fast loads times is the number 1 thing I'm excited about. Updated graphics is nice but honestly games that look real good now still look real good. Just being able to keep that quality up with smoother performance in bigger games with fast load times is all it needs to do to sell me on it.
These load times have me interested, if only because of how they'll balance out having enough solid state storage versus the end cost of the machine. We're already well into the era of 100+ GB games; if they're targeting 8K (for the love of God, why?) that'll push install sizes up even more, so does anything less than 2TB really cut it?
And where is the next Xbox going to be positioned alongside it?
It'll be interesting to watch, most definitely.
Fuck 8K, though
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but yea anything less than 1TB disc space is functionally a non-starter with how many 100gb games I have.
Not really. You can get a Crucial 1TB NVMe drive for 129 bucks right now on Amazon. That price is falling all the time. Given that Sony can get those drives way, way cheaper than we can at scale, and those prices are likely to be reasonable enough by a late 2020 PS5 release.
Unless you want one of the high end Samsung or Intel drives, you can get plenty of cheap SSD storage at this point.
Console exclusives can be some frustrating bullshit, but I could accept a year or two of them being the focus to drive hardware sales. Once someone is committed and has it, why not just start allowing people to buy games they can play with their friends? I have doubts there are that many people who say "boy, I wish I could play *Insert New Game Here* with my friends, but I lack the console... okay I'll just buy the game and the console!".
I'm aware that across the whole lifespan of the system/generation, there's always new people buying in, but I still think it's frustratingly short sighted all the same.
Maybe if we're lucky, more companies will follow EG and be like 'oops, how'd that happen, oh well now we have crossplay', but I guess making billions per year put Fortnite into a unique position not many third parties or subsidiaries will ever be able to pull off.
they get about 100,000 cycles for each bit. if you're constantly writing and rewriting, that can be not very long at all, or extremely long.
Let's say excessive usage is writing around 20GB a day (games can be in the 100s of GB lately, but you are only going to install it once, and then you'll play it for a while). Even at the low end (160 TBW), we are talking about 20 years of use at that level of usage. Older drives (which is a possibility) are around 70TBW, but that's still over 9 years at that level of usage.
I mean, I can definitely see instances where someone might exceed 20GB of writing day per day as a gamer, but that would be on the level of console game reviewer or streamer (who would constantly be installing/removing games), and you'd have to work pretty hard to have that level of churn in terms of writing data.
This all depends, of course, on how much the OS is writing to the drive as well, which could add some overhead.