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[Heroes of the Storm] Coronavirus can't kill HotS if it's already dead #rollsafe

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Dude, Sound Barrier can get interrupted. It often does get interrupted against good players. That still doesn't stop people from taking it.

    I get that the other ult might be great if, for example, you play Maiev and they cast it on you for engages. But that's a shitty use of an ult because it will be win-more. If Maiev gets a good combo then someone on the other team should die regardless. You don't need to blow an ult cooldown just to pull it off unless you need a larger margin for error. In which case why take Anduin when you can literally just take Medivh and get Protected on a significantly shorter cooldown instead.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ok, dude, I'm not going to antagonize you over this.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    (credit to some guy on Alarak of the Storm's Facebook comments)

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Cause any stun or displacement cancels it.

    Well gee I guess Mosh Pit is also just a really bad ult then!

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Well with moshpit, they can't stun you if you stun them first.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2019
    Dibby wrote: »
    Cause any stun or displacement cancels it.

    Well gee I guess Mosh Pit is also just a really bad ult then!

    I mean, the difference there is that Mosh can stop people from using their CC to stop it. And yeah, it's not great when the enemy team can just stun/knock ETC out of it!


    EDIT: Like, Mal'Ganis' channel ult is also generally considered to be very, very bad.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    hey guys so you know Manduin Wrynn right

    but what about

    Boy Banduin Wrynn

    ehh?? ehhhhh??????

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    OH GUYS HUGE NEWS

    YOU CAN PICK IN ANY ORDER IN UNRANKED

    THIS IS

    A GAMECHANGER

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Nothing like a jittery fucking mouse to kill any interest in playing hots for the night.

    I need to go out and get a new mouse ASAP.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Cause any stun or displacement cancels it.

    Well gee I guess Mosh Pit is also just a really bad ult then!

    I mean, the difference there is that Mosh can stop people from using their CC to stop it. And yeah, it's not great when the enemy team can just stun/knock ETC out of it!


    EDIT: Like, Mal'Ganis' channel ult is also generally considered to be very, very bad.

    Thing is though, right, even if it gets stunned out? Timing it so that it negates, say, a Ring of Frost or a Hinterland Blast or whatever else, right, that's still valuable.

    I still think it's a very good ult, regardless.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Two qm losses vs rando illidans with aba hat wheee

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Just a heads up, there are now Protoss Reaver mounts available in-game as rare (I believe) drops from caches. There are some screenshots of them over on Reddit. Apparently, they're going to be featured in a loot bundle in later in May, but they were added into loot chests with this patch, just undocumented.

    Protoss hype! Maybe they're gearing up to release them officially alongside the long-awaited Tassadar rework.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    That's prob the one thing I'm actually super hyped about.

    Seeing them move fast will be a bit weird, though, since they were slow as molasses in BW.

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    Then again, big papa slug... o he comin'!
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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Last one, I promise:
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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Time to rewatch Nausicaa.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I saw Nausicaä when I was 8-9 years old. Scary and fascinating, especially after being spoon fed 80s merchandise cartoons for so long. Between that and Robotech, I couldn’t go back to old cartoons for a long time.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    I saw it first in Spanish in South America as a wee lad.

    Shit was weird.


    ed: Same with Saint Seiya.

    AKA:
    Los Caballeros del Zodiaco!!
    (The Zodiac Knights)


    ed numero dos: To make this post on-topic: I'd totally spend $$$ on a Saint Seiya hero. Oh lordy would I....

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Just a heads up, there are now Protoss Reaver mounts available in-game as rare (I believe) drops from caches. There are some screenshots of them over on Reddit. Apparently, they're going to be featured in a loot bundle in later in May, but they were added into loot chests with this patch, just undocumented.

    Protoss hype! Maybe they're gearing up to release them officially alongside the long-awaited Tassadar rework.

    Were they?

    I thought the Reavers were just datamined. I don't think they're actually in game, yet.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Lots of posts on Reddit, including screenshots, suggesting they're already drops.

  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Lots of posts on Reddit, including screenshots, suggesting they're already drops.

    Well fuck me sideways

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Yeah I'm with Mmmig in that I think it'll be super awkward to see them moving quickly, just in terms of animation, but I'm still pretty hyped.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    Cause any stun or displacement cancels it.

    Well gee I guess Mosh Pit is also just a really bad ult then!

    I mean, the difference there is that Mosh can stop people from using their CC to stop it. And yeah, it's not great when the enemy team can just stun/knock ETC out of it!


    EDIT: Like, Mal'Ganis' channel ult is also generally considered to be very, very bad.

    Thing is though, right, even if it gets stunned out? Timing it so that it negates, say, a Ring of Frost or a Hinterland Blast or whatever else, right, that's still valuable.

    I still think it's a very good ult, regardless.

    I mean, that's fair. There is a cast time so I dunno how well it can be used to counter those spells. It seems like it's something you use for the heal more than anything else (I say this after I was in a match against an Anduin and we lost because of that ult....because nobody on my team bothered to save their interrupts/displacements to stop anduin's casting. The one who did (Sidely) said that he used massive shove on Anduin and it didn't work, so I dunno if he hit someone else, it was a bug, or if Anduin is immune to displacements while casting (the latter would make a HUGE difference in its viability)

    But lightbomb is basically Uther's divine storm, except with a 20 second shorter CD and if it hits 5 people then it creates a shield equal to about half a sound barrier for 5 whole seconds without any degradation. So I mean, you slap that on the person diving and you suddenly have a significant stun and mitigation on the hero the other team is going to be focusing.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    The consensus from most high-level players at this point is that not only is Holy Word the default ult for Anduin, but that it's legitimately OP.

    If you consider that in order to counter it you need to have an active displacement available (that isn't already going to be used for something else, such as to engage a fight or to stop Mosh Pit), then him having an ult that grants both Protected and heals his team for 25% HP makes it that much harder counter him in the draft. You are forced into a handful of picks (particularly healers) where you otherwise would have more flexibility.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Or a tank.

    Or most offlanes.

    And some DPS.

    It's any stun, silence, or displacement. Not just displacements.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    The consensus from most high-level players at this point is that not only is Holy Word the default ult for Anduin, but that it's legitimately OP.

    If you consider that in order to counter it you need to have an active displacement available (that isn't already going to be used for something else, such as to engage a fight or to stop Mosh Pit), then him having an ult that grants both Protected and heals his team for 25% HP makes it that much harder counter him in the draft. You are forced into a handful of picks (particularly healers) where you otherwise would have more flexibility.

    People stunned Lili out of cups back in the day without that much trouble. Anduin has to self-root to do it and is weak to displacements, too. Doesn't seem like that'd be a huge issue? I guess it's a thing that you could overload on "must stun" abilities like having both Anduin and ETC, but that's a matter of not letting the enemy team do that in draft just like you don't want them to have, say, Gul'dan and Auriel together once upon a time.

    What's different about this channeled ult rather than every other channeled ult, I guess is my question.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The consensus from most high-level players at this point is that not only is Holy Word the default ult for Anduin, but that it's legitimately OP.

    If you consider that in order to counter it you need to have an active displacement available (that isn't already going to be used for something else, such as to engage a fight or to stop Mosh Pit), then him having an ult that grants both Protected and heals his team for 25% HP makes it that much harder counter him in the draft. You are forced into a handful of picks (particularly healers) where you otherwise would have more flexibility.

    People stunned Lili out of cups back in the day without that much trouble. Anduin has to self-root to do it and is weak to displacements, too. Doesn't seem like that'd be a huge issue? I guess it's a thing that you could overload on "must stun" abilities like having both Anduin and ETC, but that's a matter of not letting the enemy team do that in draft just like you don't want them to have, say, Gul'dan and Auriel together once upon a time.

    What's different about this channeled ult rather than every other channeled ult, I guess is my question.

    Maybe most high level players forgot about half the abilities in the game.

    It happens.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
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    i'm still the li-ming king of POPPING OFF

    also aether walker is good

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Dibby wrote: »
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    i'm still the li-ming king of POPPING OFF

    also aether walker is good

    That Aether Walker build is so stupidly fun and it fixes a lot of problems that Li-Ming had, except waveclear.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Dibby wrote: »
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    i'm still the li-ming king of POPPING OFF

    also aether walker is good

    That Aether Walker build is so stupidly fun and it fixes a lot of problems that Li-Ming had, except waveclear.

    i don't think it really fixes any problems she had, per se

    removing the mana cost is really nice, but power hungry would also keep your mana adequately afloat as well (astral presence is still pretty bad though)

    so rather than fixing any problems, i think it gives her some added versatility. having an effective 3 sec cd on teleport plus the 10% Q damage buff after teleport means you want to be teleporting CONSTANTLY. even small little repositions, just to keep proccing that 10% bonus damage, just because it costs no mana and has a shorter cd. you can catch people off guard with a sudden teleport forward into Q+W. being able to juke out shit more often is great too.

    but i think realistically aether walker is just good now because it gives you three fucking things

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Aether Walker is the default because it's now free. The math works out so that if you cast like, 2 free teleports before your mana bar runs out, you come out ahead. And you will cast way more than 2 teleports. The increase to mana tension (insert meme here) makes the free cast even more valuable.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Not only did this patch still not fix the hero select quest bug, it also seems to have fucked up the loadout UI to not be able to show unowned items? Such dedgame.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It gives you a lot of free mana during combat when you are getting resets and using teleport for damage / to finish off people and after the upgrade to teleport range it makes her slightly faster than a mount in getting around and with diamond skin it means you are basically always entering a fight with a shield up.

    So it increases her effective mana pool (and thus, damage), survivability, and mobility.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    It gives you a lot of free mana during combat when you are getting resets and using teleport for damage / to finish off people and after the upgrade to teleport range it makes her slightly faster than a mount in getting around and with diamond skin it means you are basically always entering a fight with a shield up.

    So it increases her effective mana pool (and thus, damage), survivability, and mobility.

    power hungry does the same thing for mana, albeit not in teamfights (power hungry is better for downtime, but aether walker edges out in teamfights for sure)

    i generally don't take diamond skin though, i rock mirrorball cause more burst (the 10% Q buff is fucking delicious with mirrorball)

    i still assert it doesn't really fix any problems she had previously, it simply gives her increased versatility. i do like it a lot more than power hungry though, i think it's probably just going to be my default pick now.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
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    never worked so fucking hard in my life for a W before lmaoooo

    our goddamn shithead Mura was just

    well

    i'll let the screen speak for itself

    :^)

    boy banduin wrynn p cool tho. lightwell is straight busted on braxxis, man


    edit: JUST LIKE IN WoW THOUGH PEOPLE WILL LITERALLY NEVER SIT IN IT LMAO

    YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO CLICK IT BRO JUST SIT IN OMGGG

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  • ToothyToothy Registered User regular
    I'm happy to have been there to be frustrated, too.

  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Toothy wrote: »
    I'm happy to have been there to be frustrated, too.

    you're welcome to join me for clown fiestas anytime boo

    anytime.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I am cocasting the NGS Division D semifinals match tonight, right now, if anyone wants to tune in:

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Watching those Division D semifinals last night was a trip, lol: teams aggressively invading camps down 12-13 and winning; teams aggressively invading shrines down 15-16 and winning; Kael'thas getting absolutely ridiculous living bomb value AGAINST DOUBLE MAGE AND ANA; etc. It's easy to see why KT is so feared in lower leagues; dude just absolutely pops off when people can't spread appropriately.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
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