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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Bespoke hoof placement

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    So my club has a big narrative style thing in June I am in. And I finished my Chaos list because well, I have a billion chaos boys.

    The final list has 4 warlord traits and 3 specialist detachments. The fact you can get 4 warlord traits in a chaos army even in match play tickles me.

    0 cp-Normal free warlord trait (must go on a Chaos lord, Abbadon, or a Daemon Prince that is black legion).
    -1 cp- Council of traitors, a black legion sorcerer and a black legion dark apostle can have warlord traits.
    -1 cp- Field Commander-A specialist detachment HQ/Character can have the warlord trait from that detachment

    That's 4 warlord traits. In this case it is narrative so the lord has the host raptorial one (+2" to charges for host raptorial units in 6"), sorc has reroll 1s on psychic tests, apostle has the 5+ cp regen. And then I have my lord discordant the +2" to movement from the soulforged pack trait.

    Also Host Raptorial is surprisingly useful. Since it just requires a jumppack you can use a lord or a sorc for the HQ. And a 7" charge for warptalons means they will probably get in the turn they come down. With full rerolls to wound and hit. Also they stack really well with greater possessed.

    Drop in your warptalons behind your possessed/greater possessed who are charging that turn. Send in the warp talons with a 7" charge, no overwatch. Send in everything else overwatch free.

    Murder.

    Everything in the group will at least be str 5. You can get them up to str 6 minimum with a daemon herald of the right type near by.

    I just love Chaos's new stacking auras.

    Also I completely forgot how good the Flawless Host relic is. +1 attack, that's pretty good but wait +3" to any aura I have? It goes great on a Lord Discordant. The -1 to hit range for vehicles is 9". Soulforged pack warlord trait is 9" and the +1 to hit is 9". Not bad. Also works well with any lord or master of possession. Perils on any double in 15" of your MoP who should be up front anyway? Sure why not.

    Mazzyx on
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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    So, I've got a bunch of Slaanesh stuff I'm going to be gluing onto bases, but I'm putting crackle down first and it's been suggested I put risers on to give me something more substantial to glue my minis too, my only question is I assume that for every mini I'd need to figure out ahead of time which mini I'll be using and where it's feet will go before gluing something on right? Or is there a simpler answer I'm missing?

    I believe that crackle medium is particularly fragile, so it's more of a concern than usual. Your model's attachment to the base is only going to be as strong as whatever it's attaches to. So if you've got sand heavily PVA'd in place, it's probably no problem. That's plenty of solid surface for the superglue to get a grip on.

    If it's not something that strong, like paint over styrofoam, then you might have issues with tje model staying in place.

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    My LGS is doing a 50 power level monitor build 40k tournament on June 1st. I kind of want to go but I do my have enough painted models yet.

    I don't even know what would be good with 50 PL Space Wolves or Necrons.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    My LGS is doing a 50 power level monitor build 40k tournament on June 1st. I kind of want to go but I do my have enough painted models yet.

    I don't even know what would be good with 50 PL Space Wolves or Necrons.

    That's about 1,000 points. So a smaller army. Probably just a couple HQs, some troops, and like a single heavy hitter.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    My LGS is doing a 50 power level monitor build 40k tournament on June 1st. I kind of want to go but I do my have enough painted models yet.

    I don't even know what would be good with 50 PL Space Wolves or Necrons.

    That's about 1,000 points. So a smaller army. Probably just a couple HQs, some troops, and like a single heavy hitter.

    That isn't too bad. I should be able go make something fun.

    I am gonna find out first if I can use the shadowspear models or not with my Wolves. The tournament only allows stuff in the codex, no FW and such so I'm not sure if that means I can't use Infiltrators. If I can't then I'm probably gonna go Necrons for sure.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    I'm pretty sure at the start of Codex Vanguard Space Marines it calls out you can give them any chapter keyword you want, effectively making them part of that Codex. If the TO's buck that rule that's kind of shitty. It's completely common sense.

    Sagroth wrote: »
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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Well I would roll with my brother's hunt army
    It's nothing but reviers, skyclaws interceptors and wolves. It's quick but he built it to counter my saim hann jetbike army

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure at the start of Codex Vanguard Space Marines it calls out you can give them any chapter keyword you want, effectively making them part of that Codex. If the TO's buck that rule that's kind of shitty. It's completely common sense.

    Yea, they can be Space Wolves which is why I assumed I'd be able to use them.

    I just called the LGS and apparently they are going hardcore strict on the 1 codex rule and considering the mini codex from Shadowspear it's own total codex so I can't use it with the rest of my Space Wolves.

    Necrons it is. Gonna make the most degenerate 50 PL list I can.

    First draft, not feeling it.

    ++ Patrol Detachment (Necrons) [50 PL, 1CP, 835pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Dynasty Choice
    . Dynasty: Sautekh

    + HQ +

    Imotekh the Stormlord [10 PL, 1CP, 160pts]
    . Warlord: Warlord Trait (Sautekh): Hyperlogical Strategist

    + Troops +

    Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

    + Fast Attack +

    Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]
    . 5x Destroyer: 5x Gauss Cannon
    . Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

    Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]
    . 5x Destroyer: 5x Gauss Cannon
    . Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

    ++ Total: [50 PL, 1CP, 835pts] ++

    Created with BattleScribe

    Stragint on
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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    That’s pretty BS. Vanguard are hardly a codex. They’re just wave 2 Primaris. They don’t even have any vehicles, and assuming you only picked up one box you can at best field 31 Power Levels of troops, and not even a single full detachment.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Yeah, that's a pretty crap way to enforce it, basically taking some of the newest/best models for Space Marines out of the equation...but to be fair to the TO if they did allow it you know you'd have those one or two pedants who would complain and cause issues.

    In the end GW needs to quit dragging their feet and get Codex Space Marines Mk2 out. That and the multi-part models should have come right after the Chaos Space Marine stuff. Even if you had to release the codex without some models being available (like the Executioner). They've done it before.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Well with how they did the crimson fists mini codex I feel they are going to do a generic codex for the space marines and then ones like the Sons of Dorn for the Imperial Fists and desendants

  • Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    Primaris marines are the poster faction for 40k. They’re not going to release a new / updated codex in a white dwarf.

    They’ll get a proper release with all the new stuff in a codex in addition to mulitpart kits for the shadowspear stuff.

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    So I played a game today, put up a post on our local groups forums stating I’m bringing my tournament Tau list. We have an upcoming competetive league and a major team tournament for our club.

    A guy posts up and agrees to play me. I turn up. He turns up. He puts down a super fluffy beil-tan list. Every kind of aspect warrior, loads of dire avengers

    I delete everything he has on the table. He deepstrikes his reserves. They die too. No fun was had.

    I think I’m going to just stop trying to get competetive practice outside the small group I already play. It’s just not useful or fun for my opponent.

    So time to like at a fun list. I picked up the latest white dwarf and you know, I really want to play a Yanri list. Not eldar soup. Ynari. Mix up the model parts. Use Guardian Torsos and warrior heads and legs to make dudes who match the Visarch to use as my kabalites/guardians. Have venoms crewed by wyches and storm guardians. A kabalite driving a warwalker. Dark Eldar Souls in wraiths. Really go nuts with it. I need some list ideas though. Every list so far I write so far is millions of wyches (+1 to hit and reroll wounds from the 1cp strat works out better than +2 attacks from drugs/cults) and Reavers to tie you up. Basically Deldar + characters. I do have some wraithblades though I guess. Dunno gimme some good themeatic combos.

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Redcoat-13 wrote: »
    Primaris marines are the poster faction for 40k. They’re not going to release a new / updated codex in a white dwarf.

    They’ll get a proper release with all the new stuff in a codex in addition to mulitpart kits for the shadowspear stuff.

    Yeah, I can't imagine it's not just Codex Space Marines with a stylized 2 on the front, just like they did for Codex CSM.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    I do have two sets of the shadowspear vanguard stuff. I could try to make a list out of that. Not a lot of good fire power though.

    The tournament only allows patrols or battalions so I'm trying to see which I can make stronger, a Necron patrol or battalion.

    I really want to get the Destroyers in but they are 18 PL for a squad of 5 with a heavy destroyer.

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    A bunch of necron warriors with ghost arks does very well at low points levels.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    I do have a ton of Warriors but no arks at all.

    I guess they aren't requiring models to be painted but I do want to paint up my Necrons but the paint scheme I want seems complicated.

    I want to paint the armor panels with stormhost silver and then use tamiya clear paint but I can't really airbrush that on without hitting other details and I'm not sure how easy it is to brush on.

    I have such high ambitions for painting that suck so much to do.

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    I feel like it would be better to hairbrush the tamiya on the infantry and save the airbrushing for the vehicles. That would be the first step and you’d paint over any overspray afterwards.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Built the Lord Discordant tonight. Not as bad as Aggressors or that damn Repulsor. Actually not as bad as the maulerfiend I think.

    It looks freaking amazing. Actually seeing it in person it gives off a Fremen vibe more than anything. The cloak, face mask, and so on.

    Just needs to be on a giant worm.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Badablack wrote: »
    I feel like it would be better to hairbrush the tamiya on the infantry and save the airbrushing for the vehicles. That would be the first step and you’d paint over any overspray afterwards.

    Would it be better to just prime them black, base them entirely silver, brush paint the tamiya and the hit all the super bright silver with two or three coats of nuln oil to really darken down the Warriors and Immortals?

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    That could work, sure. I’d say maybe do the black wash first and tamiya up the armor panels last so you can touch up any sloppy spots or drippy washes.

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    You could also use blutak/white tak/poster tak/whatever its called where you are to cover up bits you dont want airbrushing.

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  • novaspikenovaspike Registered User regular
    Norgoth wrote: »
    So time to like at a fun list. I picked up the latest white dwarf and you know, I really want to play a Yanri list. Not eldar soup. Ynari. Mix up the model parts. Use Guardian Torsos and warrior heads and legs to make dudes who match the Visarch to use as my kabalites/guardians. Have venoms crewed by wyches and storm guardians. A kabalite driving a warwalker. Dark Eldar Souls in wraiths. Really go nuts with it. I need some list ideas though. Every list so far I write so far is millions of wyches (+1 to hit and reroll wounds from the 1cp strat works out better than +2 attacks from drugs/cults) and Reavers to tie you up. Basically Deldar + characters. I do have some wraithblades though I guess. Dunno gimme some good themeatic combos.

    Here's what I'll be trying out tomorrow.
    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [50 PL, -2CP, 861pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Artefacts of Death [-1CP]: One Extra

    Craftworld Attribute: Ynnari

    Exalted of Ynnead [-1CP]

    + HQ +

    Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 101pts]: Banshee Mask, Master of Death, Power sword, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult
    . Hungering Blade

    The Visarch [6 PL, 120pts]

    Wraithseer [9 PL, 110pts]: Shuriken Cannon
    . The Lost Shroud

    + Troops +

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    + Elites +

    Wraithblades [20 PL, 350pts]: Ghostswords, 10x Wraithblade

    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [31 PL, 582pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Detachment Attribute
    . Ynnari

    + HQ +

    Succubus [4 PL, 55pts]: Shardnet and impaler, Walker of Many Paths, Ynnari Warlord

    The Yncarne [17 PL, 337pts]: 3. Word of the Phoenix, 6. Ancestors' Grace

    + Troops +

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Wyches [6 PL, 130pts]
    . Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
    . 12x Wych
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

    ++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Harlequins) [26 PL, 557pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Masque Form: Ynnari

    + HQ +

    Yvraine [7 PL, 132pts]: 4. Unbind Souls, 5. Shield of Ynnead

    + Troops +

    Troupe [6 PL, 119pts]
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol

    + Fast Attack +

    Skyweavers [13 PL, 306pts]
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive

    ++ Total: [107 PL, -2CP, 2,000pts] ++

    Created with BattleScribe

    I'll see how it goes; I hate dismounted warriors and I'd like an Archon over a succubus, but trying to mix everyone in.

  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    So, I've got a bunch of Slaanesh stuff I'm going to be gluing onto bases, but I'm putting crackle down first and it's been suggested I put risers on to give me something more substantial to glue my minis too, my only question is I assume that for every mini I'd need to figure out ahead of time which mini I'll be using and where it's feet will go before gluing something on right? Or is there a simpler answer I'm missing?

    I believe that crackle medium is particularly fragile, so it's more of a concern than usual. Your model's attachment to the base is only going to be as strong as whatever it's attached to. So if you've got sand heavily PVA'd in place, it's probably no problem. That's plenty of solid surface for the superglue to get a grip on.

    If it's not something that strong, like paint over styrofoam, then you might have issues with the model staying in place.

    Sadly I have no PVA. The suggestion I recall was cut pieces of sprue placed appropriately, or something similar.

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    novaspike wrote: »
    Norgoth wrote: »
    So time to like at a fun list. I picked up the latest white dwarf and you know, I really want to play a Yanri list. Not eldar soup. Ynari. Mix up the model parts. Use Guardian Torsos and warrior heads and legs to make dudes who match the Visarch to use as my kabalites/guardians. Have venoms crewed by wyches and storm guardians. A kabalite driving a warwalker. Dark Eldar Souls in wraiths. Really go nuts with it. I need some list ideas though. Every list so far I write so far is millions of wyches (+1 to hit and reroll wounds from the 1cp strat works out better than +2 attacks from drugs/cults) and Reavers to tie you up. Basically Deldar + characters. I do have some wraithblades though I guess. Dunno gimme some good themeatic combos.

    Here's what I'll be trying out tomorrow.
    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [50 PL, -2CP, 861pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Artefacts of Death [-1CP]: One Extra

    Craftworld Attribute: Ynnari

    Exalted of Ynnead [-1CP]

    + HQ +

    Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 101pts]: Banshee Mask, Master of Death, Power sword, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult
    . Hungering Blade

    The Visarch [6 PL, 120pts]

    Wraithseer [9 PL, 110pts]: Shuriken Cannon
    . The Lost Shroud

    + Troops +

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

    + Elites +

    Wraithblades [20 PL, 350pts]: Ghostswords, 10x Wraithblade

    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [31 PL, 582pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Detachment Attribute
    . Ynnari

    + HQ +

    Succubus [4 PL, 55pts]: Shardnet and impaler, Walker of Many Paths, Ynnari Warlord

    The Yncarne [17 PL, 337pts]: 3. Word of the Phoenix, 6. Ancestors' Grace

    + Troops +

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Wyches [6 PL, 130pts]
    . Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
    . 12x Wych
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

    ++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Harlequins) [26 PL, 557pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Masque Form: Ynnari

    + HQ +

    Yvraine [7 PL, 132pts]: 4. Unbind Souls, 5. Shield of Ynnead

    + Troops +

    Troupe [6 PL, 119pts]
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
    . Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol

    + Fast Attack +

    Skyweavers [13 PL, 306pts]
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive
    . Skyweaver: Haywire Cannon, Zephyrglaive

    ++ Total: [107 PL, -2CP, 2,000pts] ++

    Created with BattleScribe

    I'll see how it goes; I hate dismounted warriors and I'd like an Archon over a succubus, but trying to mix everyone in.

    I’m kinda thinking something maybe similar? I feel like the key is maybe spamming Wyches to tie up the lines and then run a bunch of characters, play them as a herohammer list.

    Edit: Like an Autarch skyrunner can rock 4 str 6 -4ap 2dmg Melee attack’s that hit on 2’s rerolling ones, is immune to overwatch, moves 16”, can advance (and charge wither a strat) 22”, rocks a twin linked catapult, a reaper launcher and a laser lance and is 127 points. That seems suuuppper cheap.

    Norgoth on
  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    I'm slowly getting convinced that Autarch Skyrunners are going to be the unit that causes Index options to be outlawed in competitive play. The Codex version is massively inferior to the nightmare that you can put together with wargear that it technically shouldn't have access to anymore, and you can't adjust the points of one without wrecking the other.

  • novaspikenovaspike Registered User regular
    Agreed on them being eventually outlawed.

    I think I'd still take them for herohammer (my build really only adds the index pistol and banshee mask I think), cause they're a great mobile platform for the Hungering blade and 'Back from the brink' strat.

  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    That's about 1,000 points. So a smaller army. Probably just a couple HQs, some troops, and like a single heavy hitter.
    Badablack wrote: »
    A bunch of necron warriors with ghost arks does very well at low points levels.

    What Bada said, @Stragint . Necrons are actually pretty damn strong at 1000 points, ish, because all of a sudden your opponent doesn't have the power to fully eliminate those 20 Warriors, etc. Add in Crypteks, the Warlord trait where your guys can't fail morale, and reanimation protocols get OP real fast (in ~1000 pt games).

    Bury them under a silver tide.

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    Something like this for Ynari
    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [23 PL, 433pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Craftworld Attribute: Ynnari

    Detachment Attribute
    . Ynnari

    + HQ +

    Warlock Skyrunner [4 PL, 67pts]: Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade

    Yvraine [7 PL, 132pts]

    + Troops +

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Wyches [8 PL, 174pts]
    . Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
    . 16x Wych
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [47 PL, 842pts] ++

    + HQ +

    Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

    Succubus [4 PL, 50pts]: Archite Glaive, Splinter pistol

    The Yncarne [17 PL, 337pts]

    + Troops +

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 30pts]
    . 4x Kabalite Warrior
    . Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

    Wyches [8 PL, 175pts]
    . Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
    . 16x Wych
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler
    . Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

    + Fast Attack +

    Shining Spears [10 PL, 170pts]
    . 4x Shining Spear: 4x Laser Lance, 4x Twin Shuriken Catapult
    . Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

    ++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [35 PL, 718pts] ++

    + HQ +

    Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 127pts]: Banshee Mask, Laser Lance, Reaper Launcher, Twin Shuriken Catapult

    Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 127pts]: Banshee Mask, Laser Lance, Reaper Launcher, Twin Shuriken Catapult

    Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 127pts]: Banshee Mask, Laser Lance, Reaper Launcher, Twin Shuriken Catapult

    The Yncarne [17 PL, 337pts]

    ++ Total: [105 PL, 1,993pts] ++

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    You could drop the Yncarne and a command point if you don’t fancy playing him and want to run more shining spears or ravagers or something. Wraithlords might be good as Ynari, being able to shoot something and then charge with the buff.

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    That's about 1,000 points. So a smaller army. Probably just a couple HQs, some troops, and like a single heavy hitter.
    Badablack wrote: »
    A bunch of necron warriors with ghost arks does very well at low points levels.

    What Bada said, @Stragint . Necrons are actually pretty damn strong at 1000 points, ish, because all of a sudden your opponent doesn't have the power to fully eliminate those 20 Warriors, etc. Add in Crypteks, the Warlord trait where your guys can't fail morale, and reanimation protocols get OP real fast (in ~1000 pt games).

    Bury them under a silver tide.

    Like this?

    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [50 PL, 925pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Dynasty Choice
    . Dynasty: Sautekh

    + HQ +

    Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light
    . Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 3): Immortal Pride

    Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light

    + Troops +

    Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    ++ Total: [50 PL, 925pts] ++

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  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    That'd be a fun list, but you probably don't even need two Chronometrons or 60 warriors. You could probably drop it to 40 warriors and either raise the immortals or drop the immortals and get a heavy hitter or an Overlord or......etc.

    Or keep the Chronometrons, the two, and use the teleport relic to teleport 20 warriors and the spare Cryptek in and blast the shit out of something with 40 -1 AP shots. By the time they're dealt with, your 40 additional Warriors and Cryptek will have advanced enough to be a threat.

    The main thing to remember is you're always trying to reduce their firepower so that your reanimation protocols just become overwhelming.

    I'll have to look at it when I get home since PL is different than points.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    See if you can swap a cryptek for a cheap lord, One of each so you get my will be done.

    God chewing through that would be a pain at 1k.

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  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    See if you can swap a cryptek for a cheap lord, One of each so you get my will be done.

    God chewing through that would be a pain at 1k.

    Every time I've brought a similar list at 1000 pts (and I mean similar by like only 35 warriors, etc, so I could fit in a few other things), it's essentially outlasted and crushed every opponent. I even had one squad of warriors get dropped to 1 Warrior....and by the end of the game, it was back up to 15 of 18 Warriors.

    I'll have to find my last 1k pt, list. I think I squeezed in a Stalker for shits & giggles.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Made another list. Overlord is gonna chill with the 10 warriors, cryptek is gonna veil with the 20. Put 6 wraiths and a heavy destroyer to round out the rest. Not sure if I want to use the Novokh dynasty so my wraiths can keep falling back and charging so they can reroll failed hits or do Mephrit so my veiled warriors can have AP -2.

    Also went with a patrol, battalion wasn't working for this build.

    ++ Patrol Detachment (Necrons) [50 PL, 892pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Dynasty Choice
    . Dynasty: Mephrit

    + HQ +

    Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Chronometron, Staff of Light
    . Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 3): Immortal Pride

    Overlord [6 PL, 129pts]: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light

    + Troops +

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    Necron Warriors [6 PL, 110pts]: 10x Necron Warrior

    + Fast Attack +

    Canoptek Wraiths [9 PL, 144pts]
    . 3x Canoptek Wraith

    Canoptek Wraiths [9 PL, 144pts]
    . 3x Canoptek Wraith

    + Heavy Support +

    Heavy Destroyers [3 PL, 50pts]
    . Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

    ++ Total: [50 PL, 892pts] ++

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    I also have this second list that is a battalion.

    ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [49 PL, 899pts] ++

    + No Force Org Slot +

    Dynasty Choice
    . Dynasty: Sautekh

    + HQ +

    Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Chronometron, Staff of Light
    . Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 3): Immortal Pride

    Overlord [6 PL, 129pts]: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light

    + Troops +

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    Necron Warriors [12 PL, 220pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

    Necron Warriors [6 PL, 110pts]: 10x Necron Warrior

    + Elites +

    Triarch Stalker [8 PL, 125pts]: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon

    ++ Total: [49 PL, 899pts] ++

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    What's the point of leaving an Overlord with just 10 Warriors?

  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Mayday wrote: »
    What's the point of leaving an Overlord with just 10 Warriors?

    In theory he can still My Will Be Done the 20 warriors before they Veil. 20 Warriors with 40 -2AP shots (due to Mephrit) hitting on 2's is going to do something.

    I'm not a fan of the Wraiths being in two separate groups, though, and really not a fan of the Heavy Destroyer, but I'm not at home so I can't see what'd be better. PL makes things different, though, so it might just be harder than a flat 1k.

    I think the first list is trying to do too many things, @Stragint . Like, if you do that, why not drop the second Warrior group to 10, add 10 Immortals, drop the Heavy Destroyer, and switch to Nephrekh. That gets you to a battalion, you have one solid group of 6 Wraiths that have an 18 inch move that you can burn CP on to charge, and you have enough CP to do that *and* try to reanimate them with a Cryptek nearby. Wraiths coming back on 4's = yum yum yum.

    Hell, if you're scared of not having the Cryptek, can even drop the Overlord since you're focusing on the Wraiths now, and pick up a Cryptek with a cloak so he can move 16 inches and keep up with the Wraiths! The other Cryptek can keep the veil and port the 10 Immortals in when needed later.

    i.e., pick what you want to try and do. The Wraiths will freak them out and draw a lot of firepower, though.

    ****

    The second list is more of a Silver Tide I was suggesting and I like, but like I said, the Triarch Stalker was a shits and giggles bit for me since I had 1000 points. If you don't like it, you have 1 PL to spare, you can drop it for 3 Wraiths.

    I do like using the version that has a flamethrower just in case, though. And it is a decent pick in sub 1000 pts / Silver Tide, since the shielding will help a lot versus lascannon equivalents and the lower amount of possible firepower being tossed at it means it'd be much harder to kill than in a higher point game.

    The second list would also be a HUGE pain in the ass to beat by most lists because it has so....many....targets....that all have -1 AP and they keep coming back. It's also not a list you'd use Veil early on, either, because you want that Cryptek right in the middle of the mass of Necron metal. There's even an argument to not using Veil, period.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    I feel like the veil teleport will undo the My Will Be Done buff. I remember looking into it once and coming to that conclusion.

  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    I feel like the veil teleport will undo the My Will Be Done buff. I remember looking into it once and coming to that conclusion.

    They specifically errated this in the last FAQs. Units removed from the table and returned keep any buffs or debuffs they had.

  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    I think I don't like the twin lascannon arms for the Contemptor. What other weapons would be good, or should I give it twin CCW arms and run him with my Ironclad?

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