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Shut up about [A Song of Firegames and Icethrones]
Atomika
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Game of Thrones is (was) a television program on HBO, based off the never-completed series of books, A Song of Ice and Fire. It ran eight seasons and was very popular despite not being a very well-written show, largely due to compelling characters, thrilling battles, and lots of titties dragons.
Everyone tried really hard to do a good job, but sometimes it just wasn’t enough. The size of the story became too unwieldy for short-series TV, and in trying to both tell coherent stories and ensure much of the novels’ dense errata made it to screen, ultimately it satisfied neither aim. Fans of the written series were miffed by the omission of vital context, characters, and lore, while fans of good TV were put off by the clunky handling of storylines and character arcs, with many characters meeting trivial ends while others seemed to be almost forgotten entirely.
Still, we all liked the wolves, and I guess the good guys won in the end.
I give it 3 Battlestars out of 5.
Everyone tried really hard to do a good job, but sometimes it just wasn’t enough. The size of the story became too unwieldy for short-series TV, and in trying to both tell coherent stories and ensure much of the novels’ dense errata made it to screen, ultimately it satisfied neither aim. Fans of the written series were miffed by the omission of vital context, characters, and lore, while fans of good TV were put off by the clunky handling of storylines and character arcs, with many characters meeting trivial ends while others seemed to be almost forgotten entirely.
Still, we all liked the wolves, and I guess the good guys won in the end.
I give it 3 Battlestars out of 5.
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5 out of 5 Battlestars, but only 11 out of 12 Cylons
He and all the other Unsullied had to strangle the puppy they had raised. They had to murder a baby. They were trained to do whatever they were ordered, no matter how horrible.
They were liberated, and got (terrible, violent) vengeance on their former masters, but that's not going to fix the trauma they had. They all needed years of therapy, and instead they got years of war. Including a war against nightmarish monsters and an unstoppable zombie horde.
Grey Worm personally dealt with further trauma as Missandei was captured and brutally executed, which is the aspect they chose to accentuate. And I'm not sure it was better or worse to handle it that way.
I've seen some people upset with the character, but then even an explicit nod to this history would be lost on a lot of people.
All in all, some good Crusader Kings II strategy from Bran the Broken, long may he reign!
Funny. But list harmed by presence of Malazan Book of the Fallen (dogshit; didn't finish reading) and Wheel of Time (also dogshit; hate-finished reading).
Fight me.
Cool. Now finish the goddamn books already!
Wheel feels like it's cheating, they called in a replacement author.
List gets points for including Danial Abraham's Dagger and the Coin, even though I can't remember now how it ends. Just that I didn't hate it. The Long Price quartet had a good ending though.
Malazan I loved, even though it got a but navel-gazey towards the end. Ending to the series is great, though. I also readily recognize that series isn't for everyone, though.
Probably torturing a prisoner
Should have been Master of Whisperers!
I would guess Howland Reed next to Tully, a dude from White Harbor next to the Vale guys, maybe. I cant think of any other relevant minor houses in the area of the Reach or Cape Wrath that were mentioned. Maybe a rando from Highgarden or the Arbor.
There was also a new guy in furs from the north, maybe the new Bear Island leader.
I think it's technically an Elective Monoarchy, but since Rob Stark created a new kingdom title and didn't rule it for the 10 years required to change succession laws, the North was stuck on Gavelkind which is why it split off even after Jon Snow became a vassal of Dany. Also I think Dany was only ever an adventurer anyway since she had the throne for all of 15 minutes before she died to an assassination plot with only two backers.
DA KINGWIFNOAIR!
It kind of sounds like he's saying that his own story isn't going to be that different from what the show did (which I assume was based on his outlines). If it's all the same story beats with some extra plotlines I would be disappointed, but I guess it would help me to overwrite the plot of the last two seasons in my brain.
I'm sure Martin would do a better job of the same plot. For a start, in the books, Dany isn't as much of an audience identification figure as in the show, and going bad slowly over time would work better. And I'm sure that he won't skim over the sinister implications of an immortal demi-god as king.
The show should have done its own ending, recognising that it had diverged from the source material too much. A bog-standard "We are 7 kingdoms again!" would have worked.
Yeah, independence for the North just going over without a word from Yara or Dorne is just...not going to happen.
First panel - Jon and Arya, Season 1, Ep 1 "First lesson: Stick them with the pointy end." "I know which end to use."
Second panel - Jon and Dany, Season 8, Ep 6.
Third panel - Arya looking (preferably at Jon, though that might be hard) with amusement, or a knowing look. Possibly the scene from when Arya and Sandor get to the Vale and Arya loses her shit.
That'd be the one I'd make.
And put into context of his quote its holds true.
In his blog he's talking about how he's in the middle of like 5 TV shows right now. He says the books are still coming, but.....
And a video game!
He's already said nobody else will work on them after he passes.