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Request : Deadbeat Santees
arcath
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Seems everyone is liking the idea in the G&T Santa thread and I was asked to post it here to see if this is possible.
It seems there is some interest in this. So mods, is the idea possible?
Arcath wrote:What do you guys think I should do... My santee got his gift over a month ago. After a few weeks, I asked a fellow forumer to pm him and ask him if he got his gift and he replied that he did. Yet 3 more weeks go by and he has not posted or pm'd me about it. I am not worried about getting banned but I am sort of pissed that I sent someone a gift and I have not got a private thank you at the least. What do you guys think the appropriate responce is ?
This has been the experience of several people apparently. I don't think it should constitute a ban, but I definitely think "deadbeat Santees" should be banned from future gift-giving events. How long does it take to post a thank you on here? 10 seconds.
Seriously. I got soap (which is almost gone) and an awesome calendar and I got pictures up and everything!
BTW: I can't really feel any particular boost from the caffeine in the soap, but then it has lasted longer than 12 washings as well so I'm not getting the full 200mg dosage, not that I expected to anyway since not all of it is going to be absorbed. Whatever, I always wanted to try it and now I have.
Perhaps something where if you do not participate in saying at least "thank you" and listing what you got (pictures are a bonus) you cannot participate in the next one? But then lift it for the one after that if they decide that this time they will? It feels kinda wrong to punish someone for not saying thank you, but it is a bit rude when a stranger buys you gifts..
(And I need to keep bugging ThinkGeek and DHL about where in the world my stuff went to if not to my santee's house!)
I don't care if I get a public " wow look how cool my gifts are " I would have at least appriciated a pm saying thank you. A little courtesy would be appreciated.
I don't know if this is possible, maybe one of the mods can tell me.
You know how you get infractions, goto jail ect ect.
Your icon changes, cant use quotes(old forums i think right?), and got that big "Jailed" in your title?
So I propose this.....
Sorry Silver, I am sure your not a bad Santa, but yours was the first one I found.
Let them keep that for a year.
Hybridzerg wrote:THAT...IS...AWESOME! Do it Mods! Pleeeeaaase?
LewieP wrote:I heartilly agree.
Henroid wrote:Ask about it in Tube's Circus. That's a fucking great idea.
It seems there is some interest in this. So mods, is the idea possible?
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A special jail icon is a weak slap on the wrist.
I think there was a list kept from last year (that is, '06) and there wasn't a terrible amount of people if I remember right. So I mean, that deters them from doing it again next year. I personally didn't sign up for any Secret Santa events this year so I didn't keep track of it at all this year. But then I strolled into it today to see if there were any douchebags who didn't ante up, and first thing I see is the OP of this post.
You're right in that the administration doesn't have any reason to hold people accountable for this shit. I don't think the idea is to offer some sort of prevention status for someone who bounced out of their part in a Secret Santa. I think this is more of a public notification / humiliation thing where people will know if someone acted like a dick during a holiday event. I'm all for it.
Edit - A ban is actually too much. Unless someone gloats about it. But that's all up to the mods and administration.
This is for the Santee's who get shit but don't let anyone know and leave their Santas hanging in the wind just wondering. Sorry for the confusion on what I was referring to.
Deadbeat Santas deserved to get banned, yes which is already the rule if I am not mistaken. But I think Deadbeat Santees deserve a special jail icon or something.
I clarified in the OP with Lime, and changed to pic to reflect santee instead of santa.
Would you ship me one?
If you do, I promise to thank you.
Also: I agree with Thinatos. Blacklisting people because you don't get a "thank you?" Uhm, okay. I can understand the sentiment, but on the other hand, I didn't realize that gift giving came with a price. It's certainly nice to request a thank you, but to demand gratitude is kind of strange.
I say this without, of course, having participated in secret santa on PA yet so take my opinion for what it is. If I didn't get a thank you from someone IRL, I'd probably be upset, but I don't think I would shun the person thereafter.
It's not that they are not grateful enough. It's that they are not grateful at all.
You can at least let them know you got it, or just post a simple "Thank you Santa." in PM or in topic.
But when all you got is.....
::crickets::
It's not cool to not know if your gift got there or not because your santee wont let you know or post anything. There are a few of these running around.
Again, just a idea. Seemed to go well in the G&T thread, but no so well here.
Meh.
This subject just seems more suited to Forumer Justice type things.
Given that the administration doesn't run these things, I don't think its their responsibility to do anything about it. The risk of someone being a dick and either not sending you something or not sending a thank you note (maybe they thought the gift they got sucked, who knows), is pretty much something anyone should take into account when signing up for a random gift exchange here. Just keep a list of the people who didn't send out their gifts, and blacklist them from participating next year.
Ahh but in this case a gift was sent and received, but the Santa did not get a thank you.
Well, verification is alright.
But banning over that? Are you fucking retarded?
Me? maybe, but the guy who tested me a few years back said I was normal.
But then, I wasn't the thread starter or the the complainer that the thread starter quotes.
Deadbeat Santee? Fuck off. You're kidding, right?
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I like being referred to as "the administration"
it sounds so mysterious
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Some fools maybe need to turn it off.
Thus, the contract between Santas and Santee has not been breached, even if the Santee is an ingrate.
Irritating, to be sure, but the best you can do at this point is petition to add an expectation for Santees to confirm their gift for next year, with the punishment declared beforehand.
For now, you'll have to be satisfied with writing really caustic forum posts about the character of people you despise. In fact, I believe that was why forums were created in the first place. Perhaps even the internet. Human speech, most certainly.
In a somewhat related note, I am the victim of a deadbeat Santa, but believe that banning is too severe a punishment. What I would like to see is a public tar-and-feathering that clearly indicates that they cannot be trusted. The $10 gift I got shrifted is nothing compared to what a future forumer may suffer if they, say, agreed to share hotel fees for PAX. Or traded games.
It's trust that makes a lot of the forum interaction work... so hell, maybe I just talked myself into endorsing banning.
You guys are posting and/or trying to let your santa/satan know. You guys are awesome, and this is all fine and good.
The problem is the people here who are not saying a fucking word and the people being left in the wind not knowing anything.
Just going to have to clarify in next years rules that the Santee contact the Santa and let them know the package was received.
Seems that people are not understanding so I guess we can just call this discussion over and done.
::shrugs::
Deadbeat Santas, thats a problem.
But then the santa would be not secret.
Wouldn't a PM to the organizer or a post in some kind of loot thread do?
That's retarded. You're essentially asking people to be jailed for not thanking you.
you don't want Janson to be lonely, do you?
i mean, i donate to amnesty international
fuckin' africans ain't sent me shit for that
man please
if the reason you are getting into something like secret santas is so you can get gratitude, you're still being selfish.
and asking for people to get jailed for that?
man listen, when i am calling you a self-centered asshole
take a step back.
its also pretty shitty to assume that the reason they didn't post is because they are Teh Evil
maybe their house burnt down
maybe their mum died
maybe your gift was crap!
if they're not actually complaining, you should be happy.
So they probably got your gift. If they didn't, and they aren't posting about it, then clearly they might have some more important shit to deal with and maybe if you weren't so obsessed with patting your own back for being such an "awesome santa" you'd stop and think about that possibly.
Maybe your gift sucked? Eh?
I know, personally, I'd probably just not say anything if I got a shitty gift, rather than be all like "oh, yeah, thanks, that was awesome!"
I avoid lying if I can, and like good ole Thumper's mom says, if you ain't got shit nice to say maybe you should say nothing.
I mean, it seems pretty bullshit to say to people "don't bitch about getting free shit you ingrate" but at the same time demand they say something. If you got a shitty gift, that's basically demanding a lie. Ballocks, I say.
Makes sense to me.
I can't even comprehend how people would begin to think about asking for something like this.
A thank-you would be cool, but it is definitely not worth a jailing or banning or any punishment whatsoever if you don't get a thank-you.
But banning/jailing for not thanking? Blah!
I had two long term forumers as my Santees over the past two years and completely trusted them, but I still put the delivery confirmation on their packages for the extra buck at the post office to avoid any banning on my part.