I saw that there was a Gundam series, but I feel like that's the sort of thing where I don't just want to start with a Gundam series, I want to start with the "right" Gundam series
I saw that there was a Gundam series, but I feel like that's the sort of thing where I don't just want to start with a Gundam series, I want to start with the "right" Gundam series
You need to start with G Gundam.
It is the one with a horse gundam that's piloted by a horse.
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I saw that there was a Gundam series, but I feel like that's the sort of thing where I don't just want to start with a Gundam series, I want to start with the "right" Gundam series
The Gundam that's on Netflix is basically the Avengers Endgame of Gundam shows.
I saw that there was a Gundam series, but I feel like that's the sort of thing where I don't just want to start with a Gundam series, I want to start with the "right" Gundam series
The Gundam that's on Netflix is basically the Avengers Endgame of Gundam shows.
One Punch Man has quite a few giant monsters, actually
There's the Attack on Titan knockoff, but I'm drawing a blank on other giant monsters. I mean, sure there are big monsters, but I don't know that they'd classify as giant in the sense of Kaiju.
But then, I've only seen the first season. Might be more in the second.
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Unicorn is fine if you haven't watched the shows it's a continuation of, but it's definitely better if you have.
wait this isn't the anime thread
but anyway unicorn sort of assume you know what the deal with newtypes is, but other than that it's pretty comprehensible
Given how dismal the rest of the summer has been for everyone except Disney, I wonder if that recontextualized the box office for KotM enough to make WB more likely to keep producing these movies after Godzilla vs Kong.
Do you think Toho would make a Shin Godzilla sequel
It sounds like they want to make a new Godzilla universe rather than sequalize Shin.
As for more Monsterverse movies; I'd suggest they could make a workaround so in years Toho are making Godzilla films, Legendary could be making Kong, or possibly even Mothra movies. (Though whether or not a Mothra movie would even be viable in America these days is anyone's guess.)
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Do you think Toho would make a Shin Godzilla sequel
It sounds like they want to make a new Godzilla universe rather than sequalize Shin.
As for more Monsterverse movies; I'd suggest they could make a workaround so in years Toho are making Godzilla films, Legendary could be making Kong, or possibly even Mothra movies. (Though whether or not a Mothra movie would even be viable in America these days is anyone's guess.)
Yeah, since Toho is invested in the Monsterverse, they have a financial motive to keep them going if they keep making money. So far it seems like Godzilla KotM isn't a flop anymore, taking in around $360 million. But it's also far from the $530 million of Godzilla 2014. If Godzilla v Kong ends up more like 2014 and Skull Island, I doubt Legendary will let it go.
The bigger question then would be whether they want to license more Toho monsters or run with the ones they are creating.
The film had a production budget of $170–200 million, and an additional $100–150 million were spent on marketing. It is estimated the film will need to gross $550–600 million in order to break-even.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters carried a reported production budget of $200 million. Whenever you see a number like that, you can expect that the film is going to need to gross somewhere in the $550-600 million range just to break even.
That is less "it is a flop" and more "Hollywood accounting is a fucking nightmare"
Like saying the combined budgets are 350 million and so it needed to gross almost double that to break even is fuckin bananas
It's not combining the budgets, mentioning the marketing is just mentioning the marketing. The break-even point is for making back the production budget
Anyway I only posted it to counter the assumption that it's successful, which is spreading erroneous information. All prior MonsterVerse films cost less to make and made more at the box office (Godzilla 2014 = $529mil, Skull Island = $566mil). This will be lucky to even total $400mil
It's hard to not consider that extremely (if not disastrously) underwhelming by any/every metric, especially with more marketing and more hype behind this one than either previous one, and I don't know why it's not okay to point that out considering they already were well into making the next (and currently planned as final) one before release day
Yeah, seriously, those numbers add up to $270-$350. Anyone suggesting that they'd have to make back nearly DOUBLE the original and marketing budget to break even is full of crap. Movies with way lower margins have been considered successes, especially in the face of WB being desperate for movies they can franchise. KotM didn't do well, but the idea that it'd have to make $600 million to break even is ludicrous.
While it might not have actually lost money, if it doesn't make double the "cost" then the studio will very likely consider it a loss because movies don't just have to do ok, they have to make all the money. Normally this would mean no sequel, but as the current sequel is already in the works... I'd guess they'll keep on trucking.
I think what Studios actually consider losses is something we just won't ever really know
They report basically everything as a loss but also make sequels to them because in reality they were successful
For another example, the screenwriter of Men in Black tweeted the statement Sony sends him that they use to say the franchise isn't actually profitable so he doesn't get residuals
Meanwhile they have made 4 of them
What a studio says is a loss and what they actually internally consider a loss appear to be two different things
While it might not have actually lost money, if it doesn't make double the "cost" then the studio will very likely consider it a loss because movies don't just have to do ok, they have to make all the money. Normally this would mean no sequel, but as the current sequel is already in the works... I'd guess they'll keep on trucking.
Deoends on what WB's line-up is going to be like. Also depends on if the exec's who signed off on this film can be convinced the poor box office is part of a larger trend, rather than isolated to one or two films.
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This series has been...totally fine, which I don't mean as an insult, necessarily
It's also the first anime series I've watched in earnest? Which is maybe a weird choice on my part
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Is that also on Netflix and something I could download for work
No
But hold on I can find something that would fit that criteria
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You need to start with G Gundam.
It is the one with a horse gundam that's piloted by a horse.
The Gundam that's on Netflix is basically the Avengers Endgame of Gundam shows.
which one is that? Unicorn?
But there's no giant robots in that one!!!
(no it's definitely on the list, I've heard nothing but good things about it)
Not too long, really well animated, satifying ending, good dub
I don't know. OPM is kind of lacking in both giant monsters and horse piloted mecha.
Only one of those is relevant to this thread though.
There's the Attack on Titan knockoff, but I'm drawing a blank on other giant monsters. I mean, sure there are big monsters, but I don't know that they'd classify as giant in the sense of Kaiju.
But then, I've only seen the first season. Might be more in the second.
but anyway unicorn sort of assume you know what the deal with newtypes is, but other than that it's pretty comprehensible
The idea of one of these franchises actually ending is weirdly nice
They had that whole taking turns deal with Legendary.
Toho has it's own strategy that includes Godzilla as well. So plenty of Godzilla in the future I'd imagine.
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It sounds like they want to make a new Godzilla universe rather than sequalize Shin.
As for more Monsterverse movies; I'd suggest they could make a workaround so in years Toho are making Godzilla films, Legendary could be making Kong, or possibly even Mothra movies. (Though whether or not a Mothra movie would even be viable in America these days is anyone's guess.)
I think a Shin Godzilla sequel would be like 20 minutes long.
Yeah, since Toho is invested in the Monsterverse, they have a financial motive to keep them going if they keep making money. So far it seems like Godzilla KotM isn't a flop anymore, taking in around $360 million. But it's also far from the $530 million of Godzilla 2014. If Godzilla v Kong ends up more like 2014 and Skull Island, I doubt Legendary will let it go.
The bigger question then would be whether they want to license more Toho monsters or run with the ones they are creating.
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Like saying the combined budgets are 350 million and so it needed to gross almost double that to break even is fuckin bananas
It's not combining the budgets, mentioning the marketing is just mentioning the marketing. The break-even point is for making back the production budget
Anyway I only posted it to counter the assumption that it's successful, which is spreading erroneous information. All prior MonsterVerse films cost less to make and made more at the box office (Godzilla 2014 = $529mil, Skull Island = $566mil). This will be lucky to even total $400mil
It's hard to not consider that extremely (if not disastrously) underwhelming by any/every metric, especially with more marketing and more hype behind this one than either previous one, and I don't know why it's not okay to point that out considering they already were well into making the next (and currently planned as final) one before release day
Vs Kong is happening regardless
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Saying 500-600 million is the break even point with those figures is 100% Hollywood accounting nonsense, that math doesn't work
It is worth keeping in mind that a studio does not get 100% of ticket sale proceeds, especially outside of North America
The Harry Potter series was reported as a loss for WB, for example
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They report basically everything as a loss but also make sequels to them because in reality they were successful
For another example, the screenwriter of Men in Black tweeted the statement Sony sends him that they use to say the franchise isn't actually profitable so he doesn't get residuals
Meanwhile they have made 4 of them
What a studio says is a loss and what they actually internally consider a loss appear to be two different things
But 360 million, maybe 400 before the run fully ends ain't a bad haul
Deoends on what WB's line-up is going to be like. Also depends on if the exec's who signed off on this film can be convinced the poor box office is part of a larger trend, rather than isolated to one or two films.
Home video sales are also going to be a factor.