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[Hearthstone] THIS THREAD IS DEAD! POST IN THE NEW ONE!

MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice ActorKirkland, WARegistered User regular
edited October 2019 in Games and Technology
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THIS IS FOR: PC, Mac, iPad, Android and iPhone!

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Hearthstone New Player Guide:
1. Install Game
2. Play through intro stuff (Mage training)
3. Unlock every class by defeating them
4. Choose a class and level it up to 10 in any mode (You earn less XP against the AI, but will almost always win)
5. Do this with all the other classes (100 free gold!)
6. Go back and defeat all 9 Expert AI classes (100 free gold!)
7. Choose a class and level it up to 20 in any mode
8. Play an Arena run (it's free so don't worry about going 0-3)
9. Disenchant a card (typically a common 5 dust card) (95 free dust!)
10. Add some PA folks to your friends list and observe them winning a game (free pack!)
11. Find friends or relatives and play one game on an iPhone/iPad and Samsung phone/Tablet (1 free pack per system!)
12. **OPTIONAL: Spend $5 for the Welcome Pack (10 packs + 1 Legendary)
13. Complete daily quests, and win any 3 games, to earn gold (in Casual or Constructed)
14. Try and reach as high a rank as possible each season, but at least aim for ranks 20, 15, 10, or 5. (Free cards/dust - see below)
15. Enter and win one Tavern Brawl each week (Free pack, but Wed-Sun only!)
16. Either spend Gold on packs of cards (100/pack - Classic for a long time) or Arena (150/run)
17. Repeat steps 13-16

Arena can earn more cards and Gold once you get good at playing it. You always get a pack of cards in Arena regardless of your record. Rewards increase as you get more wins. Therefore, earning 50 Gold will have you break even since you get a 100 Gold pack of cards automatically. 50 Gold is about 3-4 wins depending on your rewards luck. Anything more than that is pure profit. Remember, Arena rewards the newest expansion packs.


A special word from MncDover:
Hearthstone is a fantastic and addicting game to play. The learning curve isn't overly steep, but remembering all the cards is tough to do. BE PREPARED TO LOSE A LOT AT FIRST! If you're new to the game, there are people that have been playing for over a year and have most, if not every, card in the game. It sucks getting smashed by what seems like a legion of Legendary minions, but keep going. Eventually you'll have your own Epic and Legendary cards and can hang with anyone. Besides, Legendary cards don't always mean instant wins. In many cases, you can sub out other common/basic cards in their place.

One last note, never EVER feel bad about asking for help or netdecking popular decks. Everyone does it (I know I certainly do!) and there's no shame in it. Creating decks by yourself can be fun and inventive, but there are people out there that play professionally and spend months creating optimal decks. Not only will netdecking help you create optimal decks, but you'll start to understand why certain cards are good and find interactions you may not have previously thought of. Finally, netdecking will help you know what your opponent is playing too. When everyone is netdecking, you can much more easily predict what they have have left in their deck/hand. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

So yeah, ask for help here often and netdeck popular decks. :)


Daily Quests and Gold earning:
You can earn gold by completing a daily quest or by winning 3 games against a human opponent in either Casual or Ranked modes. Ironically, Casual mode is more difficult than Ranked because you aren't as readily matched up to someone of your rank. Other notes about earning gold:

1. When you win 3 games, you earn 10 gold. You can earn up to 100 gold/day this way.
2. If you get a quest you don't like, you can "reroll" it by hitting the blue arrow button in the upper right corner of the quest.
3. You can only reroll one quest per day.
4. You can reroll a previously rerolled quest.
5. Try to not have more than 3 active quests or you'll lose out on a new daily quest.
6. The "Win 7 games in any mode" quest is worth 100 gold. In addition, wins against the AI count.
7. The "Spectate" quest allows you to earn a free pack of Classic cards just by watching another person win. FREE CARDS WOOO!
8. You can complete multiple quests at the same time (ie. Win 2 games with Paladin/Rogue and Win 2 games with Paladin/Warrior both get credit if you win with Paladin)


Card rarity, identification, and dust values:
1. Look at the center of the card for a gem.
2. If the card has no gem, it is a "soulbound" card and cannot be crafted or dusted. Basically, it's a starting card.
3. If the gem is white, the card is common. These cards can be crafted for 40 dust or dusted for 5.
4. If the gem is blue, the card is rare. These cards can be crafted for 100 dust or dusted for 20.
5. If the gem is purple, the card is epic. These cards can be crafted for 400 dust or dusted for 100.
6. If the gem is orange, the card is legendary. These cards can be crafted for 1600 dust or dusted for 400.
7. Dusting a golden version of a card earns you the creation value. Example: A golden rare dusts for 100 instead of 20.
8. It's highly recommended you dust golden cards unless you don't have two copies of it already.


Supplemental Card Creation Guide:
1. Do not dust cards until you have more than 2 copies of a card
2. Unless you're committed to a class, it's better to craft neutral minions first (Ysera, Bloodmage Thalnos, etc)
3. Dusting Gold cards earn lots more dust (unless you care about that bling look)
4. Try to only create Epic or Legendary (commons and rares will come via packs)
5. Ask us here before dusting something like a Legendary (see Legendary crafting link below)


Ranked Rewards
Each season lasts one month. At the end of the season, you'll earn a reward based on your highest rank you earned during the season. The rewards come in the form of golden cards and extra dust. For newer players, the golden cards can be dusted for a lot of dust (see dust list above) allowing you to create better cards. For pros, it's an opportunity to bling out the cards they want or stockpile dust for the next expansion. Because of this reward system, you should always try and get as high as possible each season. And don't worry about losing ranks, you still get the reward based on your best result and not your ending rank. The rewards by rank are:

Rank 20 - 1 golden common card, 5 dust
Rank 19 - 1 golden common card, 10 dust
Rank 18 - 1 golden common card, 15 dust
Rank 17 - 1 golden common card, 20 dust
Rank 16 - 1 golden common card, 25 dust
Rank 15 - 1 golden common card, 1 golden rare card, 5 dust
Rank 14 - 1 golden common card, 1 golden rare card, 10 dust
Rank 13 - 1 golden common card, 1 golden rare card, 15 dust
Rank 12 - 1 golden common card, 1 golden rare card, 20 dust
Rank 11 - 1 golden common card, 1 golden rare card, 25 dust
Rank 10 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden rare card, 5 dust
Rank 9 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden rare card, 10 dust
Rank 8 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden rare card, 15 dust
Rank 7 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden rare card, 20 dust
Rank 6 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden rare card, 25 dust
Rank 5 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card, 5 dust
Rank 4 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card, 10 dust
Rank 3 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card, 15 dust
Rank 2 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card, 20 dust
Rank 1 - 2 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card, 25 dust
Legendary - 3 golden common cards, 1 golden epic card


Useful links:
Most agreed upon order for crafting Legendary cards.

Here's a good list for some Classic set legendary cards:

Ysera
Leeroy Jenkins
Edwin VanCleef
Alexstrasza
Bloodmage Thalnos

Cool options to help search through your card collection.


Email stats:
You can get monthly recaps of your last ranked season directly from Blizzard. Follow these steps:

BNet Account Management... Settings > Communications Preferences > Check off News and Special Offers from Blizzard

To get something like this:

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Adventure Modes and New Cards:
Hearthstone has been out for over a two years now and has seen a lot of new content. These come in the form of Adventure Modes (single player stuff) and Expansion packs (new cards!). All of this new content can be found below. PLEASE NOTE! There is no reason to bang your head against the wall to complete Heroic boss fights. Completing them is very hard and the only reward is a special card back. Come back to them later after getting more cards in your inventory.


The Witchwood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtIbKXd5fWo

The Boomsday Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0osOie7YlA

Rastakhan's Rumble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG35phnCKRc

Rise of Shadows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRV4nooto6A

Saviors of Uldum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhpHgqIQdQ[/spoiler]


General Game Information:
The game has FOUR play modes:
  • Play - Build a 30-card deck and fight people in ranked or unranked matches in Standard or Wild formats.
  • Solo Adventures - Practice against the AI or enter the Single Player themed adventures like The Curse of Naxxramas and Blackrock Mountain.
  • Arena - Pay 150g, then pick a hero from a random selection of 3 heroes and draft a deck from a random pool of cards presented to you three at a time. Then battle other people who went through the same process to receive treasures!
  • Tavern Brawl - Free to enter after level 20. Rules change each week. Rewards a free Classic pack after first victory.


Grobian's list of less intuitive facts:
  • Max handsize is 10 cards. Any card over that is drawn then immediately destroyed.
  • You can't have more than 7 minions on the board.
  • If you draw from an empty deck, each "card" you draw instead damages you, beginning at 1 damage and increasing by 1 damage each draw.
  • If multiple things happen at the same time (e.g. trigger at the end of the turn) they happen in the order their respective cards have been played.
  • There are hidden quests/achievements that award gold, notably: 100g for beating all Expert AIs, 100g for playing every class to level 10 and 300g for 100 wins total.
  • The Shaman hero power always calls one of the 4 totems that isn't out yet. If you get a totem bounced to your hand, you can play a second one, though.
  • The hunter spell Animal Companion just calls a random of the 3 possible minions.
  • The Warlock spell Sense Demons gives you 1/1 imps for 1 mana if you don't have (any more) demons in your deck.
  • Stealth overrides Taunt, not the other way around.
  • Stealth is only for the enemy, you can buff your stealthed minions.
  • Priest: Shadowform refreshes your hero power, so you can use it twice in a turn.
  • Druid: Wild Growth at 10 mana crystals awards you a spell "Excess Mana" which draws a card for 0.
  • More comprehensive list of oddities here

Hearthstone strategy and resource links
Easy intro to Hearthstone in an image.
Full daily quest list here.
TeamLiquid's new Hearthstone siteLiquidHearth
TeamLiquid's Hearthstone Article Portal, a collection of all articles they've done. A good place to start.
HearthHead - Best Arena draft practice, decklists, deck builder, card db
Hearthpwn - Practice Arena drafts, decklists, deck builder, card db. Same stuff different layout.
Chrome Hearthstone Card mouseover extension - Easily find out what all those cards people are talking about do without leaving the thread!
Trump's Neutral Common guide for Arena
A basic/starter guide site for our newer players.

Links to competitive deckslists and analysis

Here's a visual deck sharing program made by our own Muffintron:
How to use:
[img]http://hsdecker.hp88.co.uk/decks/[DECKSTRING HERE].png[/img]

So for example, using this deckstring: AAECAf0ECnHAAcMB7gLmBJKsAumsAoK0AqO2Aum6Agq7ApUDqwSWBewFgbIC17YCh70CwcECmMQCAA==

Would be:
[img]http://hsdecker.hp88.co.uk/decks/AAECAf0ECnHAAcMB7gLmBJKsAumsAoK0AqO2Aum6Agq7ApUDqwSWBewFgbIC17YCh70CwcECmMQCAA==.png[/img]

Resulting in:
AAECAf0ECnHAAcMB7gLmBJKsAumsAoK0AqO2Aum6Agq7ApUDqwSWBewFgbIC17YCh70CwcECmMQCAA==.png

I'd appreciate it if you guys didn't use it outside PA Forums. My hosting can't stand up to any ridiculous amount of traffic, but it's a nice little tool just for us.


Decent streamers/youtube clips to watch, to learn!


Here's a list of PA people who don't mind if you spectate while they play.
*PM me to get added to the list*
**This is not a friends list. That is located at the top of this post!**

mnc dover/mncdover#1994
hippofant/hippofant#1651
crucialityfactor/cruciality#1743
Webber/Webber #1330
Ing/Inq#1974
MMMig/MMMig#1238
Grobian/grobian#1937
Creamstout/Pub#1592
vari/vari#1998
jurg/Jurg#1365
chaosHat/ChaosHat#1637
Eclipse/Eclipse#1200
Snowglobe/Eman#1234
ShadowofVT/Shadow#1525
Konphujun/Konphujun#1458
Lux782/CanisUrsa#1339
The Escape Goat/EscapeGoat#1913
Teriferin/Teriferin#1625
Orestus/Orestus#1202
belligerent/holyground#1665
zhen_rogue/Cygnus#1972
marty81/Dex#1696
Ketbra/Ketbra#1692
Drows/Drowsy#1698
Grunt's Ghosts/GruntsGhosts#1652
spacecaptaindickjustice/dickjustice#1928
cloudeagle/Wordherder#1808
Lehman/LehmanCM#1350
colorlessgreen/Ceegee#1473
azith28/Shodan#1202
GoodKingJayIII/Threeve#1501
Spaffy/adamjnet#2801
TheBlackWind/TheBlackWind#1335
Tynnan/Spinnaker#1133
MadPen/MadPen#1657
Yilias/Yilias #1224
KoopahTroopah/Koopah#1555
Edgler Vess/EdglerVess#1439

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

    so when does that tournament on twitch start. gotta get me those free packs y'all

    Dibby on
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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    anyway, let's break in that new thread with a brand new card reveal:

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    Plague of Madness
    1 Mana Spell
    Each player equips a 2/2 Knife with Poisonous

    congrats, blizzo, you just gave rogue a fucking cheap draw tool with harrison

    as if y'all didn't learn anything from weapons project smdh

    Dibby on
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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    plague of finding a knife

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    what that stand for


    B E E S

  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular

    New Wild combo:

    Emperor Thaurissan + Linecracker + BEEEES!!! + Earthen Scales = all of the Armor in the world.

    Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    2.5k armor is a lot but it's not really any more powerful of a combo than Togwaggle or Mecha'thun are. If anything it's arguably weaker because people might play out the game just to spite you.

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    You can incorporate that 2500 armor combo into a togwaggle or mecha'thun druid deck btw

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    I'm dubious that it would be wise to add even more combo pieces to those decks.

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    I'd argue that a literal combo deck is the best place to include a combo like that

  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    Wait a second...

    I thought overkill only triggers when a minion attacks, not when it is attacked?

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Whelp, As long as it's your turn, any dmg dealt by a minion checks overkill, regardless of whether it's attacking or not.

    bwanie on
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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Druid already has the wild 5 different combos in one deck. Adding another is just consistent.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    there's really nothing consistent about an 8 card combo tbh [edit] nevermind it's not 8, it's just reddit being dumb. point still stands though.

    druid already has plenty of really good armor gain cards that actually Do Stuff (ferocious howl, oaken summons, branching paths, even just earthen scales by itself) that only require one card and not waiting until turn 10+ while you amass 7 cards and hoping that you somehow haven't already been run over by fast decks

    like, is it a cool/funny meme? sure. but it's not practical.

    Dibby on
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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited July 2019
    It's 7 cards for the hilarious 2500 armor, 6 ideal for 1250, 6 nonideal for 162, 5 for 81. If you have a moonfire you can double armor gain. You can always skip the innervate if you have a minion that can die or kill something or you can kill n+1 minions for n mana. You can skip the goop for the small cases if you can land a discount on any combo card

    4-5 cards all, gain 81 armor put a 81/7 in play seems decent

    Phyphor on
  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
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    oh dear............

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Psychopomp should have reborn on itself, so it self-spoils the resurrect pool

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    god i wish there was an actual fucking graveyard targeting system so that you could actually make a utility rez deck rather than always cheating back big minions

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
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    oh dear............

    I hate this card already

  • The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    I know it's irrational to hate on something that hasn't seen play yet but man . . .

    Last pint: Turmoil CDA / Barley Brown's - Untappd: TheJudge_PDX
  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Psychopomp

    Battlecry:
    Fuck you, here's two 3/12 bears.

    Edit: oh no its a 3/12 and a 3/1 huh.

    bwanie on
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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    god i wish there was an actual fucking graveyard targeting system so that you could actually make a utility rez deck rather than always cheating back big minions

    I wish there was a graveyard targeting system so I could remove stuff from my opponents graveyard from the game.

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Having an ever increasing list of dead stuff actually seems like a more difficult way to program it than to have a normal graveyard.

    Steam - BNet: Yilias #1224 - Riot: Yilias #moc
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    god i wish there was an actual fucking graveyard targeting system so that you could actually make a utility rez deck rather than always cheating back big minions

    I wish there was a graveyard targeting system so I could remove stuff from my opponents graveyard from the game.

    Resurrecting something should remove it from the graveyard

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Phyphor wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    god i wish there was an actual fucking graveyard targeting system so that you could actually make a utility rez deck rather than always cheating back big minions

    I wish there was a graveyard targeting system so I could remove stuff from my opponents graveyard from the game.

    Resurrecting something should remove it from the graveyard

    HS logic:
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    MMMig on
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    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    I see Bomb Hunter is just as dumb this season as last season.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
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    new cards~

    really pushing that paladin aggro shit, eh

    thoughts:

    brazen zealot - nah. unless there's some kinda "1-health minion" interaction they're gonna be pushing out as well, nah. because it's just a 2/1 that can gain more attack. dies to anything. might not even get a swing.

    sandwasp queen - hmmmmm now here's something a slight bit better. it's acornbuddy +1, basically. this might be good. are the sandwasps 1 mana?

    salhet's pride - this is good. um, wow, actually though. more tutoring for paladin! holy moly. between this and crystology, man.


    oh crumbs it occurs to me that maybe the paladin quest is going to be "play x number of 1-health minions" HMMMMM

    Dibby on
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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    I see Bomb Hunter is just as dumb this season as last season.

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    I have no idea how you do that consistently. Meanwhile, in Dover's world...

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    all of those paladin cards are playable

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    So glad to see them printing more Steward of Darkshire support!

  • MuffinatronMuffinatron Registered User regular
    Nice. Got Fel-Lord Betrug out of my second free Rise of Shadows pack from the Twitch Drops thing.

    Now I have all the legendaries from that set.

    PSN: Holy-Promethium
  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    One thing I find interesting is the disconnect between VS's constant insistence that Spirit of the Shark is a bad card and the fact that pros are pretty much always playing it in their Rogue decks.

    forty on
  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    One thing I find interesting is the disconnect between VS's constant insistence that Spirit of the Shark is a bad card and the fact that pros are pretty much always playing it in their Rogue decks.

    There's a huge, huge massive difference between regular ladder play and pro tournament play.

    The pros can tune their decks accordingly knowing what sort of decks they'll be going up against. Completely separate worlds.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    One thing I find interesting is the disconnect between VS's constant insistence that Spirit of the Shark is a bad card and the fact that pros are pretty much always playing it in their Rogue decks.

    There's a huge, huge massive difference between regular ladder play and pro tournament play.

    The pros can tune their decks accordingly knowing what sort of decks they'll be going up against. Completely separate worlds.
    This isn't just tournament play, though. Streamers playing on ladder do the same.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    I gotta challenge a friend. I need more friends.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    I gotta challenge a friend. I need more friends.
    U.S. or Europe?

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    I gotta challenge a friend. I need more friends.
    U.S. or Europe?
    U.S.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    I gotta challenge a friend. I need more friends.
    U.S. or Europe?
    U.S.
    I like gold. Travesty#1435

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    I gotta challenge a friend. I need more friends.
    U.S. or Europe?
    U.S.
    I like gold. Travesty#1435
    Cool friend request sent.

  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    VS has been coming around on the shark i thought...

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    hmmm, do we have an actual card reveal schedule yet, or....?

    i mean, regardless, i appreciate the dripfeed they've been doing in the meantime. tasty nuggets to tide us over nom nom nom

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