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[3D Printing] A toy to build toys...New to the hobby....

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Hey, probably a dumb question, but! To function, the 3D printer needs a computer connected physically? Very close to pulling the trigger on an Ender 3 Pro (the price gap on Amazon is small enough to justify getting the big one ;p)

    But I'm planning on setting it up in our spare room, and the PC is down in our living room. We have an old laptop, but it's p.busted and unreliable...

    It reads from an SD card, yeah.

    Optionally you can also set up OctoPrint on a Raspberry Pi and control it over wifi, which is what I do.

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    mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
    I think technically you *can* connect the ender 5 (not sure about ender 3, but the 5 is basically an ender 3 with a different frame) to a PC via USB and send print jobs to it from there using Cura, but yeah I usually use the SD card

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    I think technically you *can* connect the ender 5 (not sure about ender 3, but the 5 is basically an ender 3 with a different frame) to a PC via USB and send print jobs to it from there using Cura, but yeah I usually use the SD card

    Yeah, that's what OctoPrint does - uses USB as a serial connection to send the same gcode from the file.

    In other news, printing stuff. This bridging ended up over expectations, it's printing mid-air without supports. We'll see how it looks when done.

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    HereticAstartesHereticAstartes Registered User regular
    Are you still liking the Kossel, Echo? It's on sale today for $200. I'm thinking about snagging one, but I'm tempted to save up and get a Predator.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Are you still liking the Kossel, Echo? It's on sale today for $200. I'm thinking about snagging one, but I'm tempted to save up and get a Predator.

    I absolutely like it, I haven't really printed with my Ender since I got it (mostly due to the not-quite-flat bed). I have some stuff that won't fit on the round bed I'll fire it up again for though.

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    HereticAstartesHereticAstartes Registered User regular
    Couldn't resist the sale, ordered a kossel. Between it, a monoprice deluxe sla, and a makergear m2, I should be able to print anything I need!

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Got a glass print bed for my Ender 3. Moved the Z home switch up 3mm. Think I have the leveling about right. Need new clips, because the ones I got with the device isn't really cutting it, but oh well.

    https://imgur.com/Lm5uuRO

    Thinking I need to bump up the temperatures. The adhesion is... not really there. Is it possible to do so via the device's menu, or is that a setting I have to do in Cura?

    Edit: A google search says people are saying to print the first layer very slowly, at a higher temperature, and then later layers at a higher speed and lower temperature. I don't know how to do that. I guess it's a Cura setting?

    Edit2: Setting it to 55 degrees did the trick. Can't see how to do so without Curawesome thinking I've broken some setting (it keeps asking me if I want to undo it) but at least it's working. https://imgur.com/yfjV7mU

    Here's the underside. I think the glass build plate was definitely a good buy: https://imgur.com/G7k3uLs

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Got some rotary encoders and an Arduino Micro in the mail today, so now I have a fancy knob.

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Hm. Apparently I haven't gotten my adherence problems down pat yet.

    https://imgur.com/iydkJdR

    Tried with a raft/skirt/whatever they call it

    https://imgur.com/NGR4dMh
    https://imgur.com/woJixbN

    Should I knock the temp up to 60C?

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    mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
    For what it's worth I'm printing PLA at a bed temp of 50C and nozzle temp of 185C on the same glass bed and I'm not having any issues with adhesion.

    I'm not really an expert here, I think that's Echo at this point, but it looks like the leveling/z-offset is a bit off - there are visible gaps between the lines. So it's possible that there is too much of a gap and it's cooling enough before it hits the bed that it's not adhering?

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Here's a picture of the bottom of a square... there's definitely some gaps. Maybe I should dial it down a little bit more?

    https://imgur.com/G7k3uLs

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    KiTA wrote: »
    Here's a picture of the bottom of a square... there's definitely some gaps. Maybe I should dial it down a little bit more?

    https://imgur.com/G7k3uLs

    That looks like it could go a teeeeeeny little bit further down, yeah.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    I got an Ender 3 Pro. Was waiting til after my dental appointment, to see the damage to my saving done by that, but it's over a month away so EH.

    Not built yet, but I gotta say, this seems like a very fun project (which creates projects...)

    Yo Echo where'd ya get that green filament? It seems like the rarest colour! :P

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Tent had a couple straps that ripped. I had an idea of what I could use to fix it, but could couldn't figure out the name.8xyqseo7j92d.jpg

    After a couple days of trying to remember/figure it out, I just went ahead and quickly modeleded and printed my own.

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    Worked out pretty well.
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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    I shall never tip over the goddamned Nuln Oil again.

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    KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    I shall never tip over the goddamned Nuln Oil again.

    -snip-

    I'm gonna need a link for the STL for that jobby on the left holding the paint pot open.

    Bnet - Khraul#1822
    Gamertag - Khraul
    PSN - Razide6
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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    I like the whole "hold 10 carts inside a single Switch case" but:

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    11 carts + 2 SD cards in a Mario ? block is cool too. Need to give it some paint, and I am hoping to find a version for DS / 3DS carts.

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Khraul wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    I shall never tip over the goddamned Nuln Oil again.

    -snip-

    I'm gonna need a link for the STL for that jobby on the left holding the paint pot open.

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3319115

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    mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Kita what ended up solving your adhesion issues?

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Kita what ended up solving your adhesion issues?

    Depends on which revision you're speaking of.

    I got a glass bed to replace the floppy black mat that the printer came with, since I think I scruffed it up too much trying to remove prints. I re-leveled it a bit. I set the bed temperature to 55. I re-leveled it a bit. I re-leveled it a bit. I re-leveled it a bit. I also cleaned the glass with eyeglass cleaner (rubbing alchohol + water) and windex.

    I think I actually have it a touch too close now, but it's as good as I am gonna get.

    Of course, now I can't get Cura to load / stop crashing. I think the 4.2.1 update notification is causing it. I have Crewawesome Mod installed so...

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    My thing is all constructed! Aah! Gonna swap the magnet sheet out for the glass bed tomorrow (was waiting on some clips for it) and was wondering - how do I make sure the extruder doesn't scratch it? There's the limit switch thing at the bottom left of the frame, do I just move that up the approximate width of the glass bed?

    Also! Should I be applying anything to the glass before a print? I've read about hair spray in some places? Should that be standard? Thanks!

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    The limit switch yes, same way it doesn't crash into any bed.

    Hairspray is one option, so is glue and painters tape. You may not need anything, though, if you get the temps/level etc right.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Whoo, I'll see how the test cube turns out before trying adhesives.

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    My thing is all constructed! Aah! Gonna swap the magnet sheet out for the glass bed tomorrow (was waiting on some clips for it) and was wondering - how do I make sure the extruder doesn't scratch it? There's the limit switch thing at the bottom left of the frame, do I just move that up the approximate width of the glass bed?

    Also! Should I be applying anything to the glass before a print? I've read about hair spray in some places? Should that be standard? Thanks!

    I don't use anything on top of the glass. The glass plate I got has a black layer on top. Just remember you need to let it cool down to ~40 or so before removing the prints. The glass is only adhesive at the proper temperature -- once it cools off the print won't adhere to the plastic and it's easy as hell to remove.

    I will admit being terrified of scratching or cracking it, and I did have a little bit of a brim stick to it just now -- like 2 mm of infinitesimally thin material. The next print covered it and it came up with that print, however.

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    Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    My thing is all constructed! Aah! Gonna swap the magnet sheet out for the glass bed tomorrow (was waiting on some clips for it) and was wondering - how do I make sure the extruder doesn't scratch it? There's the limit switch thing at the bottom left of the frame, do I just move that up the approximate width of the glass bed?

    Also! Should I be applying anything to the glass before a print? I've read about hair spray in some places? Should that be standard? Thanks!

    I don't use anything on top of the glass. The glass plate I got has a black layer on top. Just remember you need to let it cool down to ~40 or so before removing the prints. The glass is only adhesive at the proper temperature -- once it cools off the print won't adhere to the plastic and it's easy as hell to remove.

    I will admit being terrified of scratching or cracking it, and I did have a little bit of a brim stick to it just now -- like 2 mm of infinitesimally thin material. The next print covered it and it came up with that print, however.

    Some of the mechanical guys use a 3D printer at work (I think it's a ultimaker 3), and they also found that they couldn't keep the prints/plate hot enough unless they covered the opening in the front with insulation. They just cut some of the stiff building insulation from home depot and made a make shift front door. But we were also doing HIPS printing material instead of PLA or whatever you guys are using.

    "The world is a mess, and I just need to rule it" - Dr Horrible
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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
    First print commence!

    https://flic.kr/p/2gX1oP4

    ...first problem! Hah. So what went wrong with the top surface here?

    Edit: fixed link? Had to start using Flickr cause Imgur borked, and I dunno how to link pics. ;P

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    First print commence!

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/183202706@N04/48536528081/in/dateposted-public/

    ...first problem! Hah. So what went wrong with the top surface here?

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    First print commence!

    https://flic.kr/p/2gX1oP4

    ...first problem! Hah. So what went wrong with the top surface here?

    Edit: fixed link? Had to start using Flickr cause Imgur borked, and I dunno how to link pics. ;P

    The picture's not in super great focus, but it looks like your printer ran out of filament mid-print, or was unable to keep pushing it through? Not sure...

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    ...huh! I was gonna say naw, that I still had plenty of filament, but I just checked; it fell off the loop (it's the pla that game with the printer, no spool) and was pulled tight into the extruder. Maybe it did run out at the last layer?

    Also, haven't calibrated the extruder yet. Should do that, but it requires connecting a PC to it, and that seems tough!

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    ...huh! I was gonna say naw, that I still had plenty of filament, but I just checked; it fell off the loop (it's the pla that game with the printer, no spool) and was pulled tight into the extruder. Maybe it did run out at the last layer?

    Also, haven't calibrated the extruder yet. Should do that, but it requires connecting a PC to it, and that seems tough!

    You don't need a PC to do it, supposedly you measure out X MM or CM or something, and use a sharpie marker, and measure it that way to get the numbers. I haven't calibrated mine, which is probably why my prints have string issues.

    But yeah mine fell into the extruder and got pulled tight, too. So I printed one of these just in case: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2917932

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
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    A'ight, ran it again with no changes, just made sure the PLA actually made it through this time. Without calibration, this already looks p.good!

    (I think that purple streak is from where I marked the spool with permanent marker trying to calibrate the extruder ;P)

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    So my Maker Select V2 is on stock firmware which is apparently lacking runaway temp prevention. But it has no boot loader so the firmware update process involves an Adruino. Apparently it might be possible with OctoPrint. Really don't want to end up bricking this thing.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Ha, 3D tiles/tokens for Blackstone Fortress. Friend of mine has that game and is considering a printer, so I know who to send this to.

    Not very good print quality in the video though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKM4murcxSU

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Well, that sure stuck to the print bed.

    In completely unrelated news, a couple of hours before this I decided to order a WhamBam flexplate.

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Lots of time tweaking things yesterday.

    First I tried printing some stabilizer parts. I had 4 pieces on one print to save hassle of multiple prints, but one failed and ruined the batch. Fortunately it failed early in the print. Reset things for one at a time and everything was looking good. Quick trip to pick my kid up and came home to this.
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    To paraphrase something I read a few days ago: "the first rule of 3d printing: your print will fail immediately after it was last observed"

    Lots of relevelling and tweaking temps for a new roll of filament and prints were coming out solid.

    With that set I decided to mess around a bit with the OctoLapse plug-in. It's a pretty cool effect even with crappy lighting.
    https://imgur.com/a/lOGex2O

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    Steam ID: Good Life
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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Fastest printer in the world!
    https://imgur.com/sObqfJ0

    I need to make a few of these, so I ended up using it to test out a few the of different options in OctoLapse.
    https://imgur.com/a/jRXm0U5

    Center Right makes a nice clean video, but added lots of stringing to the print.
    https://imgur.com/ncwDk0O

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    Steam ID: Good Life
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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Oooh, I need to setup something like that. It'd be neat to occasionally capture timelapses. And I have a RPi doing nothing atm.
    Also crossposting from the arts and crafts thread:
    Radiation wrote: »
    Had a few setbacks. The insert was supposed to be made of wood which would've been a nice contrast I think. The stripes on the bits that dont have the insert have a bit of red, and my intent was to have cherry in there that has a deeper red color. The wood portion kept breaking (had 4 different ones break on me).


    Ended up just trying to 3d print them. I think it looked pretty neat having the solid plastic color with the wood. Still have a bunch more work to do, but I'm really liking how this is turning out.


    Working on files from this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:527736


    PSN: jfrofl
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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Decided to finally try 3D printing. Got a Creality CR10S Pro on the way as it seemed to have decent reviews and included some upgrades that many people seem to end up doing anyway on other models.

    Any recommendations on places to download a decent Cura profile(s) to use as a starting point? The hundred different parameters to configure are a little overwhelming and most aren't even set in the included defaults to give a hint where to begin.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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