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Oh yeah, all of you going Alliance for the first time, be wary in Westfall. There's a particular mob there that had the highest kill rate of players in Classic and it's not even elite.
you can get fully kitted out in dungeon drops, but getting the things to drop is the hard part. Crafted gear was useful for filling holes where you don't get drops while leveling at least.
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I think post BWL warriors do the best damage of the classes because of just how much they scale to their gear.
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I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.
PvE is bigger than PvP, plus people have had enough time to figure out that actually Alliance racials are pretty fantastic
Do... do people not play Horde PvE?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.
PvE is bigger than PvP, plus people have had enough time to figure out that actually Alliance racials are pretty fantastic
Do... do people not play Horde PvE?
Even throwing aside the absurdity that is human melee dps, BoK, Blessing of Salvation, and cleanse are absolutely ridiculous compared to what shamans bring to the table.
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I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.
can't speak for the other PA groups, but for me, the bias toward alliance is generally...
- The cities look nicer, are better organized, easier to travail, and just generally GOOD
- On average, the alliance races, in my opinion, are better modeled and characterized, on almost every dimension. They more closely evoke the WC3 themes they are based on.
- They have a significantly more pleasant and varied early game experience that helps me stay engaged (holy shit the Barrens sucks so bad)
- City proximity to well over half the end game content
In total it's 80% aesthetic 15% practical and 5% gameplay....
So much Horde stuff just looks terrible in 1.x and I don't want to look at it
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I guess? I suppose the balancing never made much of a difference to me on the whole since I was pretty casual.
Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day
I can say from putting about 14 hours into the stress test over the weekend that the biggest surprise with Classic is how many warts don't exist, rather than how many warts there are. Like, it's still WoW. It still plays like WoW. It's just a different WoW.
I had a blast and I honestly didn't know what to expect.
the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day
that was the meme, and I believe it. Exhibit A: the ridiculous charlie brown shirt pattern they used to crop out Undead's armor to expose their skeleton
enjoy looking at that for 3 years!
honestly the racials don't factor in for me at all. they do matter, but I don't play the game on any level where those will make the difference for me in my outcomes. i chose NE because I think I can do funny things with shadowmeld, but that's not... a motivating factor for being alliance
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I'm curious why all of the PA classic guilds seem to be Alliance so far.
can't speak for the other PA groups, but for me, the bias toward alliance is generally...
- The cities look nicer, are better organized, easier to travail, and just generally GOOD
- On average, the alliance races, in my opinion, are better modeled and characterized, on almost every dimension. They more closely evoke the WC3 themes they are based on.
- They have a significantly more pleasant and varied early game experience that helps me stay engaged (holy shit the Barrens sucks so bad)
- City proximity to well over half the end game content
In total it's 80% aesthetic 15% practical and 5% gameplay....
So much Horde stuff just looks terrible in 1.x and I don't want to look at it
I guess I never really noticed?
I liked the Horde stuff on the whole, hell I liked the Barrens alright. I'll probably roll up another Troll Hunter to play solo on another PVE server.
Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
the origin of the ancient alliance dev bias meme is that they spent 4x as much effort on the alliance because they thought they could swing around and do that with the horde afterwards and then whoops it's launch day
Horde onyxia key quest was like
"hey this dragon is messing shit up uh....go kill some dragons and come back to me, cool"
Jailbreak for alliance, comparatively, is the longest most stupid quest with the best ending to it in almost all vanilla
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WC3 established the Barrens to be a huge goddamn area, and given that it's the only geography that WC3 really emphasized at all, they had to make it a huge goddamn area.
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The one upside is that horde could kill the Ironforge leader by climbing up the geometry and going to old ironforge
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I will say, and this isn't really a WoW classic thing but a Blizzard/WoW thing in general
I'm still annoyed that female trolls look so different from male trolls (and I mean orcs and tauren also but for me, mostly trolls). I mean I don't even mean the face really, smaller tusks/less pointy facial features, fine but dammit, I want lanky, towering, stooped female trolls.
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the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.
where is mankirks wife
can someone hepl me where is mankirks wife 4 quest i looked all over and cant find her
Back in vanilla after a failed attack on the X roads someone left their body for months as a landmark to find her body. So it was easy to say it's the hut near Leonheart's body
I got the names Luigi, Chimichanga and Food. I wanted Bowser and Mario but either someone snaked them or they're not allowed, which would be odd, considering I have Bowser on live.
I can say from putting about 14 hours into the stress test over the weekend that the biggest surprise with Classic is how many warts don't exist, rather than how many warts there are. Like, it's still WoW. It still plays like WoW. It's just a different WoW.
I had a blast and I honestly didn't know what to expect.
That was my experience. Even little things like going to the class trainer and being like oh snap rank 2 fireball?! Now were cooking. Getting a quest then being like “wait who tf an i looking for?” And having to actually read a quest. And then going out to find the objective instead of 12 arrows and a geographic area mapped out for it. Also i like being able to chat in general while leveling instead of it being completely solo.
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Obviously it's good for making bags, but I can't remember if there was anything good pre-raid that you couldn't just find off a dungeon drop.
You could make FR gear for your guild
And bags
and FR gear
And bags!
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Do... do people not play Horde PvE?
Even throwing aside the absurdity that is human melee dps, BoK, Blessing of Salvation, and cleanse are absolutely ridiculous compared to what shamans bring to the table.
can't speak for the other PA groups, but for me, the bias toward alliance is generally...
- The cities look nicer, are better organized, easier to travail, and just generally GOOD
- On average, the alliance races, in my opinion, are better modeled and characterized, on almost every dimension. They more closely evoke the WC3 themes they are based on.
- They have a significantly more pleasant and varied early game experience that helps me stay engaged (holy shit the Barrens sucks so bad)
- City proximity to well over half the end game content
In total it's 80% aesthetic 15% practical and 5% gameplay....
So much Horde stuff just looks terrible in 1.x and I don't want to look at it
People still min max anyways
I had a blast and I honestly didn't know what to expect.
that was the meme, and I believe it. Exhibit A: the ridiculous charlie brown shirt pattern they used to crop out Undead's armor to expose their skeleton
enjoy looking at that for 3 years!
honestly the racials don't factor in for me at all. they do matter, but I don't play the game on any level where those will make the difference for me in my outcomes. i chose NE because I think I can do funny things with shadowmeld, but that's not... a motivating factor for being alliance
I guess I never really noticed?
I liked the Horde stuff on the whole, hell I liked the Barrens alright. I'll probably roll up another Troll Hunter to play solo on another PVE server.
Horde onyxia key quest was like
"hey this dragon is messing shit up uh....go kill some dragons and come back to me, cool"
Jailbreak for alliance, comparatively, is the longest most stupid quest with the best ending to it in almost all vanilla
I hate stormwind and ironforge cause I always afk run into the river and grates
Anyone know if seam walkings in?
I'm still annoyed that female trolls look so different from male trolls (and I mean orcs and tauren also but for me, mostly trolls). I mean I don't even mean the face really, smaller tusks/less pointy facial features, fine but dammit, I want lanky, towering, stooped female trolls.
I mean you can hardly feel like your character is lost in the jungle if you're always just minutes away from civilization.
Barrens: bad
the difference? roughly the same difference as driving on a highway in Norcal vs. driving on a highway in Kansas.
where is mankirks wife
can someone hepl me where is mankirks wife 4 quest i looked all over and cant find her
Back in vanilla after a failed attack on the X roads someone left their body for months as a landmark to find her body. So it was easy to say it's the hut near Leonheart's body
Share them here quick so we can be sure not to accidentally take!
I'll poach your names so that I can unpoach them for you later.
As a service to you.
That won't be free.
I was one of the few people that could make the bottomless bag and the waiting list was long
Cheapest source of endgame Enchanting materials by far. Eternal Essence and the rare shards were worth bank
That was my experience. Even little things like going to the class trainer and being like oh snap rank 2 fireball?! Now were cooking. Getting a quest then being like “wait who tf an i looking for?” And having to actually read a quest. And then going out to find the objective instead of 12 arrows and a geographic area mapped out for it. Also i like being able to chat in general while leveling instead of it being completely solo.
Like you said, its the same game, but different
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one minor detail, we have a hilarious over-abundance of healing, and we're light on DPS
if you've been on the fence and want to be mainline DPS... we're hiring. Particularly in need of a couple of warlocks, fury warriors, and rogues
https://discord.gg/k6FvH8v
The other two might be dps warriors.
Then there's a few others I'm unsure of, or if they'll play at all.