One time I was in a steak restaurant well known for cocktails, and had already ordered two during the pre-dinner/appetizer phase of things. When asked what I wanted to drink with my steak, I asked for an Americano, thinking I had indicated the cocktail (Campari and Vermouth). They brought me a cup of plain black coffee with my meal, apparently unable to make espresso but also unable to figure out I did not expect them to serve me coffee with a steak at 9 PM.
Seeing how rich people seem to tip I would expect them to pay half a penny for the americano and muffin
Hmm.
Maybe, but maybe not? I mean it's all about perceived value, and the traditional poor tipping from rich people is due to a lack of perceived value for service workers, right? So while they'd assuredly still tip poorly, I could also see them "overpaying" for the food/drink, as that's where they see the value in eating out.
Seeing how rich people seem to tip I would expect them to pay half a penny for the americano and muffin
Hmm.
Maybe, but maybe not? I mean it's all about perceived value, and the traditional poor tipping from rich people is due to a lack of perceived value for service workers, right? So while they'd assuredly still tip poorly, I could also see them "overpaying" for the food/drink, as that's where they see the value in eating out.
I mean it’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost, ten dollars?
I went to a cafe last week where I got a tea in a mug but they didn't give me a spoon or a plate or anything to dispose of the tea bag and I could not see any visible garbage can so I drank the tea until it was too over-strong to drink any more and left the rest in the mug and ran out of the cafe before any of the staff could make eye contact with me.
About what I’m paying at other places for a coffee and a muffin
god that's cheap
there's no way a cafe around here would charge less than $4.50 for a muffin.
Back in Aus it would be $6 but then no tip.
In a little Melbourne backstreet cafe a cup of coffee is like $2.50, and the muffin would be like $4.
In a "swankier" cafe here in W.A., the coffee's gonna be $5-6 and the muffin $6-8.
EDIT: Oh, and in the little backstreet cafe the muffin would be baked on the premises, in the "swankier" cafe it would be bought in from an "artisanal organic bakery" (so, made by Tip-Top in a big factory).
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GrobianWhat's on sale?Pliers!Registered Userregular
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There is a café near me that's run by a collective and they also host political meetings for left groups etc.
They have a vegetarian/vegan brunch on the weekends which was "pay what you can afford" with a recommended price of €10.
They have now changed it to "pay between €8 and €13, btw we need €10 on average to break even". I always pay the 13 and tip on top of it.
There is a café near me that's run by a collective and they also host political meetings for left groups etc.
They have a vegetarian/vegan brunch on the weekends which was "pay what you can afford" with a recommended price of €10.
They have now changed it to "pay between €8 and €13, btw we need €10 on average to break even". I always pay the 13 and tip on top of it.
This kind of defeats the purpose
Anyways my favorite model of the "subsidize another person's meal" system is when they let you just buy an extra meal they can give out at their leisure.
A sandwich place here lets you buy a little poker chip type thing which you can give to a homeless person and they can redeem it for a sandwich. I mean like just give homeless people money but still, they've given thousands of people sandwiches with the system so it's not all bad
If I knew the arrangement in advance, I would choose to go somewhere else.
If I discovered the arrangement before ordering, I would back out of line and choose to go somewhere else.
If I completed my order, and then the cashier was explaining the deal to me, but hadn't made my drink yet, I would cancel my order and go somewhere else.
If I completed my order, and they were quick enough to complete it before I found out about the pricing, I would grit my teeth, tell them that I regret the whole experience and won't be returning, but that I also understand that they, as the customer-facing employees, probably have no influence over policy. Then I would empty out all of the change in my pockets and my backpack, because if they're going to make me feel that goddamn awkward, as payback I'm going to make them take all these gross mystery-encrusted nickels that I somehow keep accumulating even though I pay cash for things maybe twice a year these days.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
*die from anxiety*
i'd just give them $20 and then never return again
In the tiny little coffee shop in the tiny village I live in and hang out in on Sunday mornings, my usual latte and delicious sugary pastry runs me about seven dollars, and I always tip five over cause tipping sucks and everyone who has to depend on it deserves more from me, a member of the bourgeois landed gentry.
The wheel of prices has 90 reasonable prices, 8 free spaces, a jackpot that gives you money, and a bankrupt where you have to pay $1,000 for the muffin
any business model that relies on rich people voluntarily paying an additional amount is doomed to failure
There are cafes near here which are based on that and they do well. They aren't really a business though.
Basically the cafe provides free drinks and such to deprived families etc and people who have money deliberately pay more to cover the costs. Pretty common for them to tell people "you don't need to pay that much today we're well covered" as well
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
The description said, "the only bar in SF that accepts bitcoin at the register!"
I'm thinking, how is this gonna go? Can't go well, right.
I asked the bartender/owner if I can pay with bitcoin and he's like 'yeah, no problem'.
I had ordered two drinks. The bartender hands me an ipad with a bitpay QR code.
I opened up my Coinbase app that I had moved $100 into today specifically for in person payments.
My drinks came out to $15.50 with tip.
The Bitpay app requested 0.0012 BTC (Current price is $16,500). When I put that amount into the Coinbase app it said the USD value was $35. I couldn't figure out why it was $35. So I switched the interface to allow me to just enter a USD amount.
I entered $20, cause I was slightly drunk and said, oh well, I'll pay more. After I hit send I looked at the transaction and it said it was pending for $51. WTF?
I asked the owner/bartender how this was gonna work since it was going to take 2hours plus.
He was like "2 hours? We can't wait that long, I'll just cancel and you can pay by credit card. Also , I don't want you to pay $51 for this".
I told him "You can't cancel, it's bitcoin. No backsies".
BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
edited August 2019
*die from anxiety*
The bar included a bitcoin ATM that lets users trade physical cash for bitcoins, and vice versa (there are more than 5,000 bitcoin ATMs like this around the world). Bitcoin Embassy offered a 10% discount if I paid for my tab in bitcoin.
So I inserted a 500 peso note—about $25—into the machine. I downloaded a bitcoin wallet app from Google's Play Store to my Pixel smartphone. It generated an address for receiving the funds and displayed it as a QR code the ATM could scan. A few second later, the ATM spit out a receipt stating "Bitcoin purchased: 0.00245589."
There was just one problem: my wallet app didn't show any bitcoins being received. We sat down at the bar and ordered drinks and a pizza while we waited for the bitcoins to arrive.
By the time we'd finished our food, my app still showed a bitcoin balance of 0. The receipt showed the bitcoin address where the funds were supposed to be sent—bc1q7ayu350m8rntrw2uvewudrhqe5gj7d8d9ndggv—and I double-checked to make sure this address matched the one in my wallet. It did. But no bitcoins.
So we gave up and paid with a conventional credit card.
After leaving the bar, I sent off an email to the support address listed on my receipt. The next morning, I got a response: "Transactions under [1,000 pesos] are taking a day to two, in the course of today they will reach the wallet." I finally got my bitcoins around 6pm.
On the way to work there is a roadside coffee place, like a van? And it's independent, not a chain, they do an amazing coffee and a peanut butter cookie for £4.50
But you take away, there's nowhere to sit. So I guess that's a cost reducer. If it was an actual cafe like £6 seems reasonable.
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GrobianWhat's on sale?Pliers!Registered Userregular
There is a café near me that's run by a collective and they also host political meetings for left groups etc.
They have a vegetarian/vegan brunch on the weekends which was "pay what you can afford" with a recommended price of €10.
They have now changed it to "pay between €8 and €13, btw we need €10 on average to break even". I always pay the 13 and tip on top of it.
This kind of defeats the purpose
Yes it does and its sad. I can only assume they had too many people eating for nearly free, they are in an area also visited by tourists.
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god that's cheap
there's no way a cafe around here would charge less than $4.50 for a muffin.
Back in Aus it would be $6 but then no tip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0r0jznFjA8
Hmm.
Maybe, but maybe not? I mean it's all about perceived value, and the traditional poor tipping from rich people is due to a lack of perceived value for service workers, right? So while they'd assuredly still tip poorly, I could also see them "overpaying" for the food/drink, as that's where they see the value in eating out.
So this thread made me check my favorite local coffee place’s prices. But their website didn’t show pricing, so I checked the menu on yelp instead.
And then I find the top review is a friend/coworker’s. And they have over 200 reviews. And every single review starts with an amazingly bad pun.
I will never reveal this to them but I am still getting a good laugh out of it.
I mean it’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost, ten dollars?
So no thanks to the negotiable prices.
can i say they have to pay me to take it
In a little Melbourne backstreet cafe a cup of coffee is like $2.50, and the muffin would be like $4.
In a "swankier" cafe here in W.A., the coffee's gonna be $5-6 and the muffin $6-8.
EDIT: Oh, and in the little backstreet cafe the muffin would be baked on the premises, in the "swankier" cafe it would be bought in from an "artisanal organic bakery" (so, made by Tip-Top in a big factory).
They have a vegetarian/vegan brunch on the weekends which was "pay what you can afford" with a recommended price of €10.
They have now changed it to "pay between €8 and €13, btw we need €10 on average to break even". I always pay the 13 and tip on top of it.
This kind of defeats the purpose
Anyways my favorite model of the "subsidize another person's meal" system is when they let you just buy an extra meal they can give out at their leisure.
A sandwich place here lets you buy a little poker chip type thing which you can give to a homeless person and they can redeem it for a sandwich. I mean like just give homeless people money but still, they've given thousands of people sandwiches with the system so it's not all bad
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
If I discovered the arrangement before ordering, I would back out of line and choose to go somewhere else.
If I completed my order, and then the cashier was explaining the deal to me, but hadn't made my drink yet, I would cancel my order and go somewhere else.
If I completed my order, and they were quick enough to complete it before I found out about the pricing, I would grit my teeth, tell them that I regret the whole experience and won't be returning, but that I also understand that they, as the customer-facing employees, probably have no influence over policy. Then I would empty out all of the change in my pockets and my backpack, because if they're going to make me feel that goddamn awkward, as payback I'm going to make them take all these gross mystery-encrusted nickels that I somehow keep accumulating even though I pay cash for things maybe twice a year these days.
If not, a fiver
If yes, 6-7 quid maybe
removed my shirt and neatly folded it on the counter
"I have shirt for you, it has Tupac on it."
they made an entire movie based on this idea
can i walk in and just declare myself the manager?
STEP RIGHT UP AND SPIN THE WHEEL OF PRICES
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Hah, you fucked up you just paid $3500 for a cup of coff- you just paid $2800 - you just paid six cents
The perfect system
There are cafes near here which are based on that and they do well. They aren't really a business though.
Basically the cafe provides free drinks and such to deprived families etc and people who have money deliberately pay more to cover the costs. Pretty common for them to tell people "you don't need to pay that much today we're well covered" as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7l7x5u/tried_to_use_bitcoin_at_a_bar_tonight_at_a/
that was from about a year back
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/08/i-tried-to-pay-with-bitcoin-at-a-mexico-city-bar-it-didnt-go-well/
but this was from last week
But you take away, there's nowhere to sit. So I guess that's a cost reducer. If it was an actual cafe like £6 seems reasonable.
Yes it does and its sad. I can only assume they had too many people eating for nearly free, they are in an area also visited by tourists.