“Say ‘AHHHH,’ motherfucker!” is just wildly out of character*, and so, so 80’s.
Also (yeah, I’ll spoiler the ending of 1989’s Leviathan)...
OF COURSE THE BLACK GUY DIES!
Cuz fucking why not?
* I’m basing this on the like one or two times I saw it when I was a kid after it hit VHS. Maybe that was totally in-character for Weller’s ... character. I can’t remember details beyond that line. Other than “wow, this movie wanted to be Aliens, like really badly.”
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Incident at Loch Ness was my first introduction to Werner Herzog
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Dying at the bottom of the ocean is somehow infinitely more terrifying to me than dying in outer space. I do not know why.
Criterion Channel just added all these Herzog flicks.
Even Dwarfs Started Small (1970)
Land of Silence and Darkness (1971)
Fata Morgana (1971)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
The Enigma of Kasper Hauser (1974)
Heart of Glass (1976)
Stroszek (1977)
Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979)
Woyzeck (1979)
Fitzcarraldo (1982)
Ballad of the Little Soldier (1984)
Where the Green Ants Dream (1984)
Cobra Verde (1987)
Lessons of Darkness (1992)
Little Dieter Needs to Fly (1997)
My Best Fiend (1999)
Dying at the bottom of the ocean is somehow infinitely more terrifying to me than dying in outer space. I do not know why.
You mean, like, dying in a facility at the bottom of the ocean rather than a facility in outer space? Because if you die in the ocean I'm pretty sure you'd be dead before you hit the bottom...
Dying at the bottom of the ocean is somehow infinitely more terrifying to me than dying in outer space. I do not know why.
You mean, like, dying in a facility at the bottom of the ocean rather than a facility in outer space? Because if you die in the ocean I'm pretty sure you'd be dead before you hit the bottom...
Like in a suit at the bottom of the ocean dying suffocating or something versus in a suit floating in deep space suffocating or something.
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Spoilers for The Amazing Johnathan Documentary
So how much of this was a set up?
I feel like the chainsaw juggler could have been called in by Johnathan in order to add some chaos to the whole affair, in one way or another. The second documentary crew, aside from the whole thing where they're not who they say they are, seems suspicious but potentially on the level, but do you think Johnathan knew about that whole not who they say they are thing? I feel like he was more aware than he let on with that one.
Or is this all a crazy set of coincidences and misunderstandings?
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
I feel like the chainsaw juggler could have been called in by Johnathan in order to add some chaos to the whole affair, in one way or another. The second documentary crew, aside from the whole thing where they're not who they say they are, seems suspicious but potentially on the level, but do you think Johnathan knew about that whole not who they say they are thing? I feel like he was more aware than he let on with that one.
Or is this all a crazy set of coincidences and misunderstandings?
i am thinking johnathan absolutely was inflating the second documentary's credentials based on overhearing they had borrowed the equipment from the man on wire team. he was totally playing it up and pretty much banking on no one calling him out on it, which he was pretty much on money about -- there didn't really seem to be any blowback regarding that flagrant lie. i don't think they ever misrepresented themselves, to be honest. but i absolutely believe johnathan did. they kinda get painted as these shady antagonists solely due to johnathan's deception more than anything.
the third documentary? oh yeah that was johnathan fucking with them. and if the guy wasn't so goddamned nice, i think he woulda realized it at the getgo.
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It's the fourth documentary that's maddeningly unclear.
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Amazing Johnathan
I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
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I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
if he came up with the idea during the fourth documentary
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I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
if he came up with the idea during the fourth documentary
I think maybe? Or partially, at least?
Like, the problem is, this whole thing requires documentary filmmakers to be reaching out to him. That's the setup for him to pull off this trick - he needs to have multiple documentary teams reach out to him.
There are ways to encourage that, of course, that's basic mentalism. But he's also working on a potentially very limited time scale.
So I think it's sort of an evolving thing.
If we say that the fourth documentary is on the level (which I think it is), then he does that and he gives some answers and I'm sure he fucks around a bit but overall that's just a straight up documentary.
If we say that the third documentary is on the level (which I don't entirely believe), well, that one feels like it's just someone he might know doing it, someone who travels in the same circles or whatever asks him if there's ever been a documentary about him, he says no, and he gives a bunch of similar answers to the guy who films it, but doesn't really pursue it much further because that's not actually his deal.
Next comes the first documentary, and I think that's where he really starts playing with the formula. He tells the same stories, answers the same questions, but he starts pushing some boundaries, changing how the whole thing is going to work.
And then, when the second documentary gets involved, he starts pitting everyone against each other. Most actively with the first and the second, where he encourages the first to film the second and release afterwards (and may have done the exact opposite with the second), but also by calling back in the third, who hasn't been around but he can invite to a show or whatever fairly easily.
Or maybe it's all a weird coincidence and nobody thought that much about it. But that doesn't sound like magicians to me.
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I don't know how anyone could be an actor. Having a bunch of silent people standing so close just staring at you while you pretend to do things. The attitude you must need is so far from my own experience, it fascinates me.
I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
if he came up with the idea during the fourth documentary
I think maybe? Or partially, at least?
Like, the problem is, this whole thing requires documentary filmmakers to be reaching out to him. That's the setup for him to pull off this trick - he needs to have multiple documentary teams reach out to him.
There are ways to encourage that, of course, that's basic mentalism. But he's also working on a potentially very limited time scale.
So I think it's sort of an evolving thing.
If we say that the fourth documentary is on the level (which I think it is), then he does that and he gives some answers and I'm sure he fucks around a bit but overall that's just a straight up documentary.
If we say that the third documentary is on the level (which I don't entirely believe), well, that one feels like it's just someone he might know doing it, someone who travels in the same circles or whatever asks him if there's ever been a documentary about him, he says no, and he gives a bunch of similar answers to the guy who films it, but doesn't really pursue it much further because that's not actually his deal.
Next comes the first documentary, and I think that's where he really starts playing with the formula. He tells the same stories, answers the same questions, but he starts pushing some boundaries, changing how the whole thing is going to work.
And then, when the second documentary gets involved, he starts pitting everyone against each other. Most actively with the first and the second, where he encourages the first to film the second and release afterwards (and may have done the exact opposite with the second), but also by calling back in the third, who hasn't been around but he can invite to a show or whatever fairly easily.
Or maybe it's all a weird coincidence and nobody thought that much about it. But that doesn't sound like magicians to me.
I read all these spoilers and holy FUCK I need to watch this film, where is this amazing thing streaming
Dying at the bottom of the ocean is somehow infinitely more terrifying to me than dying in outer space. I do not know why.
You mean, like, dying in a facility at the bottom of the ocean rather than a facility in outer space? Because if you die in the ocean I'm pretty sure you'd be dead before you hit the bottom...
Like in a suit at the bottom of the ocean dying suffocating or something versus in a suit floating in deep space suffocating or something.
At least space is basically empty. The ocean is as a fact full of monsters and visibility is much worse.
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
if he came up with the idea during the fourth documentary
I think maybe? Or partially, at least?
Like, the problem is, this whole thing requires documentary filmmakers to be reaching out to him. That's the setup for him to pull off this trick - he needs to have multiple documentary teams reach out to him.
There are ways to encourage that, of course, that's basic mentalism. But he's also working on a potentially very limited time scale.
So I think it's sort of an evolving thing.
If we say that the fourth documentary is on the level (which I think it is), then he does that and he gives some answers and I'm sure he fucks around a bit but overall that's just a straight up documentary.
If we say that the third documentary is on the level (which I don't entirely believe), well, that one feels like it's just someone he might know doing it, someone who travels in the same circles or whatever asks him if there's ever been a documentary about him, he says no, and he gives a bunch of similar answers to the guy who films it, but doesn't really pursue it much further because that's not actually his deal.
Next comes the first documentary, and I think that's where he really starts playing with the formula. He tells the same stories, answers the same questions, but he starts pushing some boundaries, changing how the whole thing is going to work.
And then, when the second documentary gets involved, he starts pitting everyone against each other. Most actively with the first and the second, where he encourages the first to film the second and release afterwards (and may have done the exact opposite with the second), but also by calling back in the third, who hasn't been around but he can invite to a show or whatever fairly easily.
Or maybe it's all a weird coincidence and nobody thought that much about it. But that doesn't sound like magicians to me.
I read all these spoilers and holy FUCK I need to watch this film, where is this amazing thing streaming
Hulu.
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I think the fourth documentary was on the level. I think that might be... part of how Johnathan knew how to play everyone else - someone had previously started working on a documentary about him, but it had never come to fruition. Some of his rehearsed answers, some of his bits, essentially, they were being pulled from there.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
if he came up with the idea during the fourth documentary
I think maybe? Or partially, at least?
Like, the problem is, this whole thing requires documentary filmmakers to be reaching out to him. That's the setup for him to pull off this trick - he needs to have multiple documentary teams reach out to him.
There are ways to encourage that, of course, that's basic mentalism. But he's also working on a potentially very limited time scale.
So I think it's sort of an evolving thing.
If we say that the fourth documentary is on the level (which I think it is), then he does that and he gives some answers and I'm sure he fucks around a bit but overall that's just a straight up documentary.
If we say that the third documentary is on the level (which I don't entirely believe), well, that one feels like it's just someone he might know doing it, someone who travels in the same circles or whatever asks him if there's ever been a documentary about him, he says no, and he gives a bunch of similar answers to the guy who films it, but doesn't really pursue it much further because that's not actually his deal.
Next comes the first documentary, and I think that's where he really starts playing with the formula. He tells the same stories, answers the same questions, but he starts pushing some boundaries, changing how the whole thing is going to work.
And then, when the second documentary gets involved, he starts pitting everyone against each other. Most actively with the first and the second, where he encourages the first to film the second and release afterwards (and may have done the exact opposite with the second), but also by calling back in the third, who hasn't been around but he can invite to a show or whatever fairly easily.
Or maybe it's all a weird coincidence and nobody thought that much about it. But that doesn't sound like magicians to me.
I read all these spoilers and holy FUCK I need to watch this film, where is this amazing thing streaming
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i think maybe amazon or shudder
but it is essential viewing
it's werner herzog vs the loch ness monster
3 was kinda some hot bullshit, tho
@Rorshach Kringle @Raijin Quickfoot it's free (with ads) on Tubi.TV https://tubitv.com/movies/321126
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but i got that dvd playa
it came out right when college me was getting super into herzog
Just saw the Tubi comment.
Excellent!
Only one I've seen (at least that I logged, I may have seen one or two more I'm forgetting) was Into The Abyss, a death penalty documentary that
kinda fucked me up for a good weekend after I saw it
Steam
Also (yeah, I’ll spoiler the ending of 1989’s Leviathan)...
Cuz fucking why not?
* I’m basing this on the like one or two times I saw it when I was a kid after it hit VHS. Maybe that was totally in-character for Weller’s ... character. I can’t remember details beyond that line. Other than “wow, this movie wanted to be Aliens, like really badly.”
Even Dwarfs Started Small (1970)
Land of Silence and Darkness (1971)
Fata Morgana (1971)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
The Enigma of Kasper Hauser (1974)
Heart of Glass (1976)
Stroszek (1977)
Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979)
Woyzeck (1979)
Fitzcarraldo (1982)
Ballad of the Little Soldier (1984)
Where the Green Ants Dream (1984)
Cobra Verde (1987)
Lessons of Darkness (1992)
Little Dieter Needs to Fly (1997)
My Best Fiend (1999)
You mean, like, dying in a facility at the bottom of the ocean rather than a facility in outer space? Because if you die in the ocean I'm pretty sure you'd be dead before you hit the bottom...
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Who has two thumbs and not much else?...this guy...
Like in a suit at the bottom of the ocean dying suffocating or something versus in a suit floating in deep space suffocating or something.
What the fuck?
I feel like the chainsaw juggler could have been called in by Johnathan in order to add some chaos to the whole affair, in one way or another. The second documentary crew, aside from the whole thing where they're not who they say they are, seems suspicious but potentially on the level, but do you think Johnathan knew about that whole not who they say they are thing? I feel like he was more aware than he let on with that one.
Or is this all a crazy set of coincidences and misunderstandings?
I shouted at the screen.
I joked about this happening before it did and I still shouted at the screen when it did.
the third documentary? oh yeah that was johnathan fucking with them. and if the guy wasn't so goddamned nice, i think he woulda realized it at the getgo.
The trick with the third doc is how prepared it may have been - was there actually any footage to that documentary? I don't recall seeing any there, but I could have missed something. If there was, that's a hell of a set up for a trick that you may never be able to perform.
I kinda wonder
Like, the problem is, this whole thing requires documentary filmmakers to be reaching out to him. That's the setup for him to pull off this trick - he needs to have multiple documentary teams reach out to him.
There are ways to encourage that, of course, that's basic mentalism. But he's also working on a potentially very limited time scale.
So I think it's sort of an evolving thing.
If we say that the fourth documentary is on the level (which I think it is), then he does that and he gives some answers and I'm sure he fucks around a bit but overall that's just a straight up documentary.
If we say that the third documentary is on the level (which I don't entirely believe), well, that one feels like it's just someone he might know doing it, someone who travels in the same circles or whatever asks him if there's ever been a documentary about him, he says no, and he gives a bunch of similar answers to the guy who films it, but doesn't really pursue it much further because that's not actually his deal.
Next comes the first documentary, and I think that's where he really starts playing with the formula. He tells the same stories, answers the same questions, but he starts pushing some boundaries, changing how the whole thing is going to work.
And then, when the second documentary gets involved, he starts pitting everyone against each other. Most actively with the first and the second, where he encourages the first to film the second and release afterwards (and may have done the exact opposite with the second), but also by calling back in the third, who hasn't been around but he can invite to a show or whatever fairly easily.
Or maybe it's all a weird coincidence and nobody thought that much about it. But that doesn't sound like magicians to me.
it's wild
The greatest trick of them all
I need to watch Shadow of the Vampire again. I remember liking it, but it's been so long.
and that's the joker's trick
the world doesn't deserve herzog
dare you enter my magical realm?
Not during sexy times though.
I read all these spoilers and holy FUCK I need to watch this film, where is this amazing thing streaming
At least space is basically empty. The ocean is as a fact full of monsters and visibility is much worse.
Hulu.
Excellent.