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[Heroes of the Storm] Coronavirus can't kill HotS if it's already dead #rollsafe

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
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    Ah the old, 4 Assassins and a Bruiser comp. Is it too much to ask to give us a Healer?

    How can the wife be this consistently dominate w/Li Li?

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Why can't I have your fucking QM MMR Antaeus lmao

    I swear to god I'm at a range where I can't carry because my opponents know what they're doing but my teammates are simultaneously the biggest fuckups I've ever seen in my life

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Why can't I have your fucking QM MMR Antaeus lmao

    I swear to god I'm at a range where I can't carry because my opponents know what they're doing but my teammates are simultaneously the biggest fuckups I've ever seen in my life

    My secret is that I've been tanking my MMR for the past year by playing nothing but Illidan and Medivh in QM unless I've been needed to fill, in which case I just play whatever.

    Also, the best thing about playing Murky is that you can do whatever the fuck you want and you still have a decent chance of winning as long as you aren't terrible at the hero. I've won games against pick comps, games against macro comps (that last game was against Azmodan + Abathur + Jaina), games against tryhard fullstacks, whatever. It doesn't matter.

    Murky gonna murk.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Man, I wasn't paying attention and the GeForce Experience app did the whole "set HOTS to run at 3840x2160 full-screen resolution" thing.... and goddamn, did I forget how good the game can look.

    And then in QM our Murky fed the enemy Zul'jin so he completed his quest in under 3 minutes and just obliterated everything.

    EDIT: Boy, the second game wasn't looking good... especially since the enemy team had a Cho that was doing work. Ended up starting to rally around the 20 mark... and got into a fight where the Cho was low but was looking to get away.

    "...Wait a minute. As Qhira, my grappling hook does damage, doesn't it?"

    DOUBLE KILL

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Sometimes you just know a game is gonna go your way

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Shit y'all I'm pretty pleased with most of those?

    The Diablo Devastating Charge nerf has been a long time coming. Chen nerfs are fine although </3 Combo Strikes. Imperius buffs seem kinda weird until you realize they're hitting the weaker talents, so it's actually fine.

    Auriel changes are great! I've always felt she's struggled a bit without a good battery and hopefully this will give her a good balance now. Those Rehgar changes lmao those level 1s are craaaaazy now. Rhonda buffs are cool.

    Qhira nerfs are like actually fine. About what I was expecting. Tone down the ridiculous ones, bump up the weak ones. She'll still probably be too strong but it's a good start. Grappling Hook nerf is great, that range was insane.

    Chromie buffs do not matter one bit, lol.

    KTZ changes......... Man I dunno about giving him baseline reset functionality. Even if they're nerfing the damage.

    Everything else looks good!

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    And Murky buffs! ;)

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    There's unfair, then there's this level of unfair...

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    This game was so one-sided. My Tanks stayed up front without overextending, Qhira did her thing, Ana kept everyone healed, and I rained damage safely from afar. I went with the Q build for a change and it was a lot of fun.

    Oh and Ana Nanoboost on Gul'dan should be illegal. QQQEQQQQEQQQE in like 8 seconds w/50% bonus damage and 40% spell armor is wrong. :)

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    also holy fuck it's about time li ming got some fucking buffs eh???

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I still want my girl Nova to get some rework love. But seeing as how she’s all over QM, and other heroes need more love, I don’t see it happening anytime soon.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular

    Yeah she seems super crazy popular.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
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    Increased Ignited damage reduced from 25% to 20%.

    I had to read this sentence five times before I could even begin to parse it.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Yeah she seems super crazy popular.

    Man, with that level of popularity you’d think she’d get her own game or something.

    ...

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    I am not excited about Kel'Thuzad fissure reset at 10.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    I am not excited about Kel'Thuzad fissure reset at 10.

    Don't forget the new double dip at 20!!!!!

    Christ

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    I am not excited about Kel'Thuzad fissure reset at 10.

    Don't forget the new double dip at 20!!!!!

    Christ

    Where is @Knight_ i want his hot take

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    Knight died of a brain hemorrhage from reading the patch notes.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    Knight died of a brain hemorrhage from reading the patch notes.

    F in the chat boys

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    A 40 damage reduction from 360 to 320 doesn’t translate to “reducing his burst” to me. Cutting it down to 200-250 would be better, especially with free recasts baseline.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    got all 200 stacks for Qhira's nerfed bleed quest in 5 minutes and still lost the game AMA

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    A 40 damage reduction from 360 to 320 doesn’t translate to “reducing his burst” to me. Cutting it down to 200-250 would be better, especially with free recasts baseline.

    It's not 40, you're looking at it the wrong way. It is much more impactful than it lets on.

    At level 20 Shadow Fissure deals 575 damage, or 1007 with Quest.

    Nerfed Shadow Fissure deals 511 damage, or 895 with Quest.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Why does no one care about Murky? Just went 3-1 w/him getting MVP twice.

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    Not even sure if I'm using his best build. :shrug:
    Dibby wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    A 40 damage reduction from 360 to 320 doesn’t translate to “reducing his burst” to me. Cutting it down to 200-250 would be better, especially with free recasts baseline.

    It's not 40, you're looking at it the wrong way. It is much more impactful than it lets on.

    At level 20 Shadow Fissure deals 575 damage, or 1007 with Quest.

    Nerfed Shadow Fissure deals 511 damage, or 895 with Quest.

    1007 to 895 doesn't seem like much of a nerf. Especially with extra procs galore.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean, that’s over a hundred less damage. That’s nothing to sneeze at.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2019
    That's a 10% damage nerf to bake in a level 20 Talent. I'd take that on EVERY damaging ult in the game.

    Unless you are all being facetious? Can't tell on the internet....

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The KTZ mains I group with didn’t tend to take that level 20 upgrade.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    That's a 10% damage nerf to bake in a level 20 Talent. I'd take that on EVERY damaging ult in the game.

    Unless you are all being facetious? Can't tell on the internet....

    I do not believe they are being facetious, no. I'm kind of in your camp, though, I'd take that trade on most heroes.
    The KTZ mains I group with didn’t tend to take that level 20 upgrade.

    Still though, now you get it for free (almost) and a different lvl 20 later!

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    I didn't know Rehgar was the highest win rate healer now. I've loved him even during the nerfed times. Which I suppose are coming up again eventually based on the dev comments in those patch notes.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    God how I wish I had y'alls murky luck.

    Everytime I play him I head to a lane and within moments, they've sent someone who can one shot my puffer and zone me out .

    How do I get these games where you can just push out a lane unbothered

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    God how I wish I had y'alls murky luck.

    Everytime I play him I head to a lane and within moments, they've sent someone who can one shot my puffer and zone me out .

    How do I get these games where you can just push out a lane unbothered

    On many maps you can cut off the wave before it even hits the middle.

    Also, at some point the early-game laning phase is over and teams start running around like headless chickens, giving you easy uncontested stacks, especially once you are able to quickly clear the minion wave with a single Slime+Pufferfish combo (and then in late game you just throw a single Pufferfish and leave ASAP). If you don't get a free merc camp in the first 3 minutes it's fine - you can get plenty of camps later on in the game.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Ok WTF
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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    That's a 10% damage nerf to bake in a level 20 Talent. I'd take that on EVERY damaging ult in the game.

    Unless you are all being facetious? Can't tell on the internet....

    The reset functionality being baseline honestly doesn't matter that much, I'd say

    Like, straight up? The only times I've seen the old level 20 get value was:

    - For interrupts on channeled objs (but you'd have to be asleep at the wheel to get hit)
    - When someone was asleep at the wheel
    - When the KTZ was a fucking prediction god

    The delay and size of Shadow Fissure means it's actually really hard to land raw ones if the person is paying attention at the slightest.

    But this is dead gaem we're talking about and I've literally seen people get hit by like 4-5 fucking Fissure resets in a row before because they're just fucking asleep.

    I dunno. I still don't think it's a good thing to be baselining, and I'm certainly not trying to defend it. I don't think it should exist baseline. But I'm trying to find a silver lining.

    RIP Sgt Hammer though.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Every day is Murky day:
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ok, due to some drama and some lying we found ourselves sans tank but I still need to clip something from our game tonight that is basically “wow, KTZ can be some bullshit, huh?”

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Ok, due to some drama and some lying we found ourselves sans tank but I still need to clip something from our game tonight that is basically “wow, KTZ can be some bullshit, huh?”

    Let me guess, he pressed E, E, W, Q, R, R, R, R, R

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Ok, due to some drama and some lying we found ourselves sans tank but I still need to clip something from our game tonight that is basically “wow, KTZ can be some bullshit, huh?”

    Let me guess, he pressed E, E, W, Q, R, R, R, R, R

    Close.

    He pressed R once.

    And the rest was just the magic happening.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    So level 20 KTZ.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Had a KTZ last night on my team with 4-5 ults on the ground at the same time. He was just coating the map in ults. That's dumb. Rare sure, but dumb that it can happen anyway.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    People on reddit complaining about the level 20 changes to KTZ, as though that has any impact on how toxic the hero is...

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