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    WACriminalWACriminal Dying Is Easy, Young Man Living Is HarderRegistered User regular
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

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    XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    RedTide wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »

    I only have the most passing of knowledge on the character, but Marvel's ability to pull talent for their projects continues

    For some context, she voiced Spider-Gwen.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    RedTide wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »

    I only have the most passing of knowledge on the character, but Marvel's ability to pull talent for their projects continues

    For some context, she voiced Spider-Gwen.

    And was the lead in Bumblebee. And is a friend of Taylor Swift.

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    *rereads own comment*

    Wow you guys sure are telling me a lot about comic book character Kate Bishop.

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    WACriminalWACriminal Dying Is Easy, Young Man Living Is HarderRegistered User regular
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

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    XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    I would counter that Deadpool is more about being sarcastic and funny and completely ridiculous, and Ryan Reynolds has spent a whole lot of time being really good at that.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Chris Evans is just so damn charming and I really hope he's moved past the feeling about being typecast and will keep acting.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    I mean, he played Wade Wilson years and years before the Deadpool movie was a glint in the network executives' eye, and he was basically perfect then.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    Kelsey Grammer AKA Fraiser Crane as Beast.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2019
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    Kelsey Grammer AKA Fraiser Crane as Beast.

    That'd be at 4 for me.

    EDIT: Though part of it is bias because he's in the movies so little.

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    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Ian McKellen as Magneto deserves a nod, especially since they're friends in real life.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    Commander Zoom on
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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Yeah, Sir Ian McKellen is easily as brilliant of a casting and the two of them together have amazing chemistry

    Like sometimes Hollywood gets stuff right

    I do worry about whoever they chose for the next wolverine tho

    Local H Jay on
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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    Write that down.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I recall that Newsweek called Patrick Stewart's casting in X-men "The role he was born to play."

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    I'd say Hugh Jackman deserves recognition for making Wolverine his, despite looking completely wrong for the role. Comics Wolverine is known for being short and hirsute, which Jackman is not.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I hate how quickly these clickbait sites start stating the casting for Hawkeye series as fact when it's clearly still up in the air. Reminds me of the whole Doomfist fiasco.

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Doomfist being a character in the video game Overwatch, of whom it was heavily speculated the voice actor was Terry Crews.

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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Terry Crews puts on the infinity gauntlet.
    POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!!!

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    After seeing Del Toro's Collector, I knew Jeff Goldblum would be the best choice for the MCU's Grandmaster, and I'm so happy it actually happened.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    It has its fans. I haven't tried watching it in 20 years, but I found it difficult to enjoy. Mainly due to the whispered thoughts of the characters.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    SteevL wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    It has its fans. I haven't tried watching it in 20 years, but I found it difficult to enjoy. Mainly due to the whispered thoughts of the characters.

    It is a real tough book to adapt. It is probably the best adaptation of it but I don't know if that makes it a good general purpose movie or not.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
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    Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    It's weird as fuck and hard to follow at times, because it throws made-up sci-fi words at you all over the place, and makes huge jumps in the plot that make the story hard to follow.

    That said, it's weirdness is compelling as fuck to me, and the effects, though dated by today's standards, are really fun in my mind. Also, it's not "bad" in the sense that it's cheesy, it's "bad" in the sense that it's kinda missing the point of the source material in many ways, which makes it kind of a mess. That said, the acting is actually decent in patches, and the on-screen realization of many of the characters and set pieces can be really inspired (I mean, H.R. Giger was involved), even if the plot doesn't follow suit.

    Also, don't know if you're a fan of the books, but, as an adaptation, it takes a bunch of liberties, but that was pretty much par for the course for sci-fi adaptations of the time.

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    MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    SteevL wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    It has its fans. I haven't tried watching it in 20 years, but I found it difficult to enjoy. Mainly due to the whispered thoughts of the characters.

    Yeah, it's definitely one that requires having a certain mindset. Which isn't unexpected when the director is David Lynch, famous for "just past weird" movies. And a source material that's pretty heavy (I've tried reading it several times, and passed).

    Side note, apparently they're remaking it, and while I'm not particularly excited by the prospect, they went all out on casting.
    Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Oscar Isaac, Josh Brolin, Stellan Skarsgård, Dave Bautista, Zendaya, David Dastmalchian, Stephen McKinley Henderson, Charlotte Rampling,
    Jason Momoa and Javier Bardem.

    I mean, that's an impressive cast, even if the director isn't a heavyweight.

    EDIT: Should be clear, not trying to disparage Denis Villeneuve, just that his body of work isn't expansive enough I can tell if he's likely to do a good job with a project of this scale. Quite possible he does an outstanding job. I mean, who'd have thought giving Tolkien to the director of Braindead and the Frighteners would work? By that same token, giving the DCEU to the director of 300 and Watchmen didn't seem like that terrible an idea at the time either.

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    This quote from a review linked on Rotten Tomatoes sums it up pretty well, "Dune is not the masterpiece its adherents have hoped for - but neither is it the disaster its detractors have claimed."

    I loved Dune when I was young. Back when the only options for watching something were either what was on live tv, or what I could pick out at Blockbuster, it was one of my fallback options - whenever I couldn't find anything that really grabbed me at Blockbuster, I could rent Dune and have a good time watching it. It's not a great movie, but it isn't terrible either. It's a very ambitious film, with one hell of a cast, that doesn't quite hit what it was aiming for. The pacing could use some work, the whispered thoughts are off putting for some, and it has some Lynchian surreality but probably could have used a little more. It's also supposedly difficult to follow if you haven't read the book or seen it more than once, though I don't recall any problems in that regard. But it's very interesting visually - especially for the time - and that impressive cast do give it their all. It's also a great story underneath it all, and the original novel is a scifi classic for a reason.

    I watched it recently for the first time in many years and it was like spending an evening with an old friend who I hadn't seen in a long time.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    The Classic dune movie is a well known sci fi classic for a reason.

    Also as is required by tradition

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    KruiteKruite Registered User regular
    I liked the Sci-Fi Channel movie adaption, even though there are many scenes that are clearly in front of a green screen and not in a good way.

    This movie doesn't do a good job with Paul imo, and the inner monologues of characters from the book are thrown into the movie. It just doesn't work in this medium and I can't articulate why.

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.
    If you're looking for the definitive, faithful cinematic version of the Dune book, it's inadequate.
    If you have no understanding of the source material, it's convoluted.
    If you want a Dune-inspired fever dream brought to you by David Lynch, it's amazing.

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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Dune is one of the exceedingly few examples of a movie I prefer over the book. That may be blasphemy to Frank Herbert fans, but I just liked what the movie did wrt the Kwisatz Haderach.

    But ya, the movie has quite a few weird bits that don’t make much sense if you don’t know the context, which is more than a bit actually. That said, I still like the movie.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Dune is one of the exceedingly few examples of a movie I prefer over the book. That may be blasphemy to Frank Herbert fans, but I just liked what the movie did wrt the Kwisatz Haderach.

    But ya, the movie has quite a few weird bits that don’t make much sense if you don’t know the context, which is more than a bit actually. That said, I still like the movie.

    Really, after what Brian and Kevin have done with and to Dune, that doesn't even register.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    The books didn't really know where to go with it either. The next two books were royal court politics and they veered into crazytown from there. The prescience was the main plot of the series, but the rest of the powers Paul supposedly had (super-mentat, ancestral memory, full Reverend Mother, etc) not so much.

    If you want a faithful version of the books, he SciFi channel miniseries version (and it's sequel, which incorporated he second and third books) do that. At 12 hours they still needed to shave a lot - these are Lord of the Rings scale novels without 60 pages of walking and singing between main events. They also stand by themselves much better than the David Lynch fever dream.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    Dune was made in 1984 with a budget of 40 million and adapted an incredibly weird setting for mass consumption. I'd be surprised if it didn't look bad.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    Xantomas wrote: »
    WACriminal wrote: »
    If nothing else, we should probably give Chris Evans an award for "guy who most became his actual character off-screen".

    I dunno, is Ryan Reynolds in the running for that award?

    He's in the running, but I would posit that Chris Evans has spent more time fighting fascists than Ryan Reynolds has spent regrowing limbs.

    Ryan Reynolds entire career since two guys a girl and a pizza place has been non sequitur wink at the camera 4th wall breaking comedy. That's like his entire schtick. Like he's one of those castings that came up that just made sense. Like Reynolds as deadpool made sense before deadpool as a movie even seemed like something that could happen.

    See also when RDJ was first announced as Tony Stark, wayyyyy back when, and everyone was all "of course".

    The most "Oh yeah, that makes sense." castings for people when they were announced are:

    3: Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool
    2: RDJ as Tony Stark
    1 and it's no contest: Patrick Stewart as Professor X

    People were fan-casting PStew as Charles back when he was winding up on TNG, so for him it was more "yes, finally, about time".

    It's funny you should say this, because for a very long time Pat was really uncomfortable with the fandom; his background was Shakespearean acting, not sci-fi action and you can actually see it with how stiff he is in the early seasons of TNG. It was years before he relaxed and learned to enjoy genre and be the loveeable goof we know him to be today.

    Also, this is always fun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_LO7gJo-4

    Is that movie as bad as it looks? It sure looks it.

    Dune was made in 1984 with a budget of 40 million and adapted an incredibly weird setting for mass consumption. I'd be surprised if it didn't look bad.

    I don't know, I mean, it's definitely showing its age at this point, but even without that taken into consideration the special effects aren't horrible.
    I mean, you can tell it's models and miniatures with no small amount of blue screen, but it's far from the worst visuals of 35+ years ago.

    Story wise, yeah, it's a bit of a mess. It's the only movie I've heard of where it came with a primer for the audience to know what's actually going on, because even with the voice over monologues, there's only so much exposition you can cram into a movie. But I would love to see it on the big screen today.

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    KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    That is the main problem with turning the book into a movie, half of the book is just people talking to themselves in their heads.

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