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[Chat] is RUINED FOREVER?! UTTERLY DESTROYED?! Slightly Inconvenient? OWNED?!

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    NHS paracetamol is super expensive too. They end up paying some absurd amount (I'm sure I remember £7 as the figure), just due to the various overheads attached to dispensing medication and tracking it all. For reference the public can buy pills for less than 2p each.

    There was a big thing in the news about it a few years back because people were getting upset that doctors weren't readily prescribing it but instead recommending it be taken.

    It does point to a strange structural inefficiency somewhere

    The £7 ish (now £9) the prescription charge, which only exists in England

    It's a flat fee paid by anyone recieving prescription medication and the cost was arrived at by working out all the costs due to prescribing that are not the cost of the medication itself (for everything from paracetamol to ultra niche oncology drugs) and dividing by the number of prescriptions issued. Them reducing it a bit because it seemed bigger than people would accept.

    Functionally it's an additional tax that you pay if you get sick in England, which is the logic that lead to it being abolished elsewhere, since creeping monetisation is generally seem to be at odds with the "free at the point of use" mantra.

    In practice it just led to the weird situation you describe, where it isn't worth prescribing anything that costs less than the charge and is otherwise available OTC.

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Please do not use fire to draw out your gross meat creature juices.

    But the steak juices mixing with the sauteed mushrooms is like the entire point of me putting the mushrooms on the grill in the first place.

    Kamiro
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    My ex and I once looked at buying a very nice older home in a historical district in Dallas. Downstairs, it had three living rooms, a tiny closet of a kitchen, and three bedrooms upstairs sharing a single bathroom. It had the original windows from the 1930s, which looked amazing but had the environmental efficiency of a screen door in a tornado.

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I'm sure the interior is better, but whoever is responsible for what happened to the facade should be sent to the Hague.

    Sure but only the murder the person who designed the original facade who should have been in the Hague for decades at this point.

    I love Victorian aesthetics but that's... not a great example of it.

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Atomika wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    My toilet is right next to the kitchen. Old homes or indicative of my cooking skills, you decide.

    Old homes have a ton of charm, but even more disastrous planning, design, and material use. I would only buy an older home if I had a ton of expendable income to put back into it.

    Yup in my experience "ton of charm" translates into "Oh hey this is charming->fast forward six months->Oh hey this is actually super fucking annoying and oh my god why would anyone build it this way" and then cut to either months if not years of renovations or just flat out selling the house.

    HappylilElf on
    Atomikashryke
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    And Jesus, talk about being a fire trap

    Victorians are all-wood, from floor to exterior, built before many homes even had electricity

    Just . . no

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    My gramma legit had a house with a tower.

    PSN: Honkalot
  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    It’s dnd 2nite might be we gotta talk sense to a few kobolds youknowmean

    Do you mean fuckin'?

    Never not meaning fuckin’

    PSN: Honkalot
  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    And Jesus, talk about being a fire trap

    Victorians are all-wood, from floor to exterior, built before many homes even had electricity

    Just . . no

    And in many cases the electricity they have was installed when safety standards were, um, lets go with lax. Sure virtually non-existent is more accurate but lax sounds nicer.

    Atomika
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    And Jesus, talk about being a fire trap

    Victorians are all-wood, from floor to exterior, built before many homes even had electricity

    Just . . no

    And in many cases the electricity they have was installed when safety standards were, um, lets go with lax. Sure virtually non-existent is more accurate but lax sounds nicer.

    Or put in by people years after the house was built, exposed cabling everywhere.

    I’m sorry. I’m not a huge fan of Victorians. They’re twee rat mazes made of kindling, asbestos, and lead paint.

  • NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Atomika wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    We need a list of PA chat memes.

    - EOD
    - Old Chanus
    - Atomika hates everything
    - Neco is leaving forever
    - Spool hates beans
    - Bleric is made of flowers and stardust and lucky charms marshmallows
    - whatever the fuck cummies are
    - Burning down capitalism/the patriarchy/wage system
    - Butts
    - Butt pees
    - Abdy posts photos of ruggedly beautiful Scandinavia
    - Vish likes fish

    The leaving forever meme has naturally come to its conclusion as I successfully did leave forever and never once failed to stay away.

    Neco on
    AtomikaElldrenChanusBurnageKristmas Kthulhu
  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    NL does the same. If you go the pharmacy, there is a €7 "explanation fee" on every drug.
    This sucks a lot for people with really cheap medicine that they take daily (Like people on the cheapest statines)

    I saw a bill at work, where there was €13 of medicine and €42 to explain it.... to a person who had been taking them for a decade.

    It's a cornerstone of the funding structure, but it leans the hardest on people who can afford it the least.....

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
    InfamyDeferred
  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    "charming" is the most overrated adjective by far.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    In NL, houses made in the 1930s are generally sought after. It's the last decade of true brick building + wood windowframes, there are often stained glass details. They are also from an era with little to no social housing (Since our government was rightwing "austerity" during the great depression... until like 1937), so almost all the houses are decent sized. So those 1930 neighbourhoods are almost always "good neighbourhoods" (since you need 2x median income to afford a house anywhere near it). And the planted tons of Oak trees during construction which certainly looks nice 90 years later.

    Unfortunately, as we are now transitioning into heavy isolation as part of environmental policy (and geo-politics, as the gas fields are drying up and we don't want to become an importer from Russia). And those houses suck to isolate. But I don't think anyone is going to be willing to tear them down.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    SanderJK wrote: »
    In NL, houses made in the 1930s are generally sought after. It's the last decade of true brick building + wood windowframes, there are often stained glass details. They are also from an era with little to no social housing (Since our government was rightwing "austerity" during the great depression... until like 1937), so almost all the houses are decent sized. So those 1930 neighbourhoods are almost always "good neighbourhoods" (since you need 2x median income to afford a house anywhere near it). And the planted tons of Oak trees during construction which certainly looks nice 90 years later.

    Unfortunately, as we are now transitioning into heavy isolation as part of environmental policy (and geo-politics, as the gas fields are drying up and we don't want to become an importer from Russia). And those houses suck to isolate. But I don't think anyone is going to be willing to tear them down.

    You mean insulation?

  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    Yup, Dutch word is isolation, I screw that one up all the time.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
    Haphazard
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    SanderJK wrote: »
    NL does the same. If you go the pharmacy, there is a €7 "explanation fee" on every drug.
    This sucks a lot for people with really cheap medicine that they take daily (Like people on the cheapest statines)

    I saw a bill at work, where there was €13 of medicine and €42 to explain it.... to a person who had been taking them for a decade.

    It's a cornerstone of the funding structure, but it leans the hardest on people who can afford it the least.....

    It's all round a bad idea

    In an NHS context they aren't even recovering a material amount of money, and because it's so regressive there are a raft of exemptions and prepayment schemes that are likely as complex to administer as the prescriptions themselves

    Every so often the English trusts hit upon a scheme like this which will let them claw back some cash from patients to try to address some funding pressure (parking charges at hospitals, premium TV channels in wards, premium food, taking money to grant salespeople from associated commercial services access to patients, etc) and it's always a terrible idea

    In the areas which have boards rather than trusts (Scotland, Wales, NI) this kind of thing is generally discouraged to prohibited

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    A hockey team wanted breakfast put out for them an hour early and when we agreed to cold breakfast only a half hour early they complained about the waffle maker not being on. Not a chance people, don't push your luck.

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    NHS paracetamol is super expensive too. They end up paying some absurd amount (I'm sure I remember £7 as the figure), just due to the various overheads attached to dispensing medication and tracking it all. For reference the public can buy pills for less than 2p each.

    There was a big thing in the news about it a few years back because people were getting upset that doctors weren't readily prescribing it but instead recommending it be taken.

    It does point to a strange structural inefficiency somewhere

    The £7 ish (now £9) the prescription charge, which only exists in England

    It's a flat fee paid by anyone recieving prescription medication and the cost was arrived at by working out all the costs due to prescribing that are not the cost of the medication itself (for everything from paracetamol to ultra niche oncology drugs) and dividing by the number of prescriptions issued. Them reducing it a bit because it seemed bigger than people would accept.

    Functionally it's an additional tax that you pay if you get sick in England, which is the logic that lead to it being abolished elsewhere, since creeping monetisation is generally seem to be at odds with the "free at the point of use" mantra.

    In practice it just led to the weird situation you describe, where it isn't worth prescribing anything that costs less than the charge and is otherwise available OTC.

    No, I'm talking about the internal costs. Prescription costs are a separate thing

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular

    Don’t try to jump a road vehicle

    fuck gendered marketing
    bloodyroarxx
  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Oh geez a coworkers daughter is going to immigrate to the US from Canada to be with her fiancee they seem to not understand you just cant just go hey I'm moving into this country

    bloodyroarxx on
    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Good evemorning chat

    My bedside lamp had a frayed cord going into the switch so I took the cord and switch apart and rewired it all while following knitdan’s first and only rule of electricity*

    *
    do not under any circumstances electrocute yourself

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • BogartBogart Gonna Be A Man In Motion Registered User, Moderator mod
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I want to go home but I’m being paid to sit down and do nothing so I guess this is the American dream.

    Also my head has been in a weird place for the last week, definitely because of surgery-related anxiety

    Kristmas Kthulhu
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    fuck gendered marketing
    AtomikaNecoRedTideRhesus PositiveKristmas KthulhuBlameless Cleric
  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Ask them

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Ask them

    Waiting for my super to show up too busy to deal with it right now

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Ask them

    Waiting for my super to show up too busy to deal with it right now

    Do you get hobos breaking into your place? We occasionally do here, on the admit floors. They’ll just come in and hop into a bed like no big deal

    “It’s free real estate!”

  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Ooooh

    Mystery guest

    fuck gendered marketing
  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Lovley I have a guest occupying a room and I have no idea who they are.

    this is real bad

    Ask them

    Waiting for my super to show up too busy to deal with it right now

    Do you get hobos breaking into your place? We occasionally do here, on the admit floors. They’ll just come in and hop into a bed like no big deal

    “It’s free real estate!”

    No

    nothing like that We have an idea who it is but we cant be sure.

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    The real mystery guest is the friends we made along the way

    No wait

    It’s some drunk kid

    And he’s shit himself

    Kristmas Kthulhu
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Atomika wrote: »
    The real mystery guest is the friends we made along the way

    No wait

    It’s some drunk kid

    And he’s shit himself

    Nah it’s always some C-list celebrity because if their name had any real draw they’d use it instead of calling them a mystery guest

    Edit: so my guess is it’s Elizabeth Berkley

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
    AtomikaRhesus Positive
  • DynagripDynagrip Rattlesnake on the trigger HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    that dog is a super fan

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Broar I would like to move to Canada

    Can you adopt me

    Kristmas Kthulhu
  • AtomikaAtomika Cinema Vampire (alleged) Trans 🏳️‍⚧️ SylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Elldren wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    The real mystery guest is the friends we made along the way

    No wait

    It’s some drunk kid

    And he’s shit himself

    Nah it’s always some C-list celebrity because if their name had any real draw they’d use it instead of calling them a mystery guest

    Edit: so my guess is it’s Elizabeth Berkley

    Lol

    I wonder what she’s doing these days. Those SBTB kids had a hell of post-series career.

    - Elizabeth Berkeley: did softcore porn, faded into obscurity
    - Dustin Diamond: made pornos no one wanted to watch, went to jail
    - Lark Voorhees: Lost her gotdam mind
    - Mario Lopez: homophobe and professional dollar-store Ryan Seacrest
    - Tiffany Theissen: Enjoying obscurity with Lizzy Berx, maybe they do brunch with Annabeth Gish
    - Mark-Paul Gosselar: Intermittent feature guest on cop shows, frequently mistaken for Ricky Schroeder and James Van Der Beek and doesn’t correct people.

    Atomika on
    Elldren
  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment The purity of angry tambourine. Registered User regular

    we're just calling any new construction a mcmansion now aren't we

    Atomika
  • MimMim You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there's still going to be somebody who hates peaches.Registered User regular
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