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[Warframe] Railjack off to a great/buggy start

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Does anyone else feel that the Pathocyst attack rate is soooo slooooooow?

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Does anyone else feel that the Pathocyst attack rate is soooo slooooooow?

    For sure but it also hits surprisingly hard so I think maybe they were trying to make the Fragor/Galatine/Gram of glaives maybe?

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Ash Prime has a neck. Neck Prime!

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Ash Prime has a neck. Neck Prime!

    What

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Orphane wrote: »
    Ash Prime has a neck. Neck Prime!

    What

    I stand by my statement.

    Also, Atlas Prime has a neck.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    What using Rhino in a mission feels like
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYe3LqN8q0

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    Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    1 credit Halloween color palette in the shop til Nov 1.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Zaw dagger Covert Lethality crit-knife is leveled, gilded, duly named the Gom Jabbar, and forma’d, and I’m already grateful for the advice I received to prioritize this build. My riven that prompted this time investment is pretty good, too. Speed and combo duration, with a debut to range that I’m actually a bit grateful for, as it prompted me to add Primed Reach to the build. The extra range, over and above the debuff, is making it far easier to keep on target despite Stinging Thorn’s maddening gymnastics.

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    DeansDeans Registered User regular
    Ember and Vauban reworks look good! Heat procs are being fixed so they stack damage properly, and also melt armor in some way, which would already go a long way to buffing Ember, but she's also getting a damage reduction ability and a meter system and a new 4 that calls down meteors on enemies and spreads heat procs like crazy. Vauban's Tesla balls follow him around CCing enemies, Minelayers were all changed and are all useful and/or fun, new orbital strike ability that's slow but scales with enemy level and looks amazing, and Bastille and Vortex were combined into a single ability. Tap for Bastilled, which now strips armor, and hold to turn Bastilles into Vortexes.

    Pretty awesome stuff.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I just want World on Fire back. :(

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    I just want World on Fire back. :(

    Clearly, Ember needed micromanaging a meter and a loss of her passive AoE damage ult. :|

    I wonder how it will scale.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I am super goddamn mad about world on fire going away

    that was literally the only reason for ember to exist

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I am super goddamn mad about world on fire going away

    that was literally the only reason for ember to exist

    As much as I loved World on Fire for a push button and forget ability I have to admit it made her either boring to play because everything everywhere just dies or useless because it barely tickles them.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I am super goddamn mad about world on fire going away

    that was literally the only reason for ember to exist

    As much as I loved World on Fire for a push button and forget ability I have to admit it made her either boring to play because everything everywhere just dies or useless because it barely tickles them.

    That's only because they nerfed the range. Before that, WoF actually did pretty decent crowd control, without being as silly as "lock down the whole map" banshee

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    Spoit wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I am super goddamn mad about world on fire going away

    that was literally the only reason for ember to exist

    As much as I loved World on Fire for a push button and forget ability I have to admit it made her either boring to play because everything everywhere just dies or useless because it barely tickles them.

    That's only because they nerfed the range. Before that, WoF actually did pretty decent crowd control, without being as silly as "lock down the whole map" banshee

    yeah. Banshee's probably due for another pass too... hopefully her "power synergy"/"active play" rework will be better.

    Fireball from you or fireball from the sky is just meh. I also imagine that she'll have the same all or nothing problem with these new skills too.

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Having a frame be built around a single damage type is just a bad idea in general. Given the wide variety of resists and armor types it means that she will either be useless or overpowered depending on the enemies being faced. They could keep the whole fire theme and give her something more then just damage, like frost.

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    That would have meshed will with the heat build up/release thing too, though at that point they could probably just make a new frame.

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    HellboreHellbore A bad, bad man Registered User regular
    I think DE is building Ember around the new Fire proc, which, from what I remember was uncapped DoT stacks and armour strip

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    That would have meshed will with the heat build up/release thing too, though at that point they could probably just make a new frame.

    that's just saryn, which is already one of the best frames

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    Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    Ok, so, people I know shit on multiplayer games a lot. They're like "Seraph, why do you put up with this shit. You've literally been playing online multiplayer nonsense since 1997 (Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 Multiplayer PVP). You have seen the absolute worst this community has to offer. You saw the neo-Nazis before anyone in the mainstream press was worried about it. You saw the misogynists. You saw the racists. You've seen some Shit."

    And I'm like yeah

    But

    Today, during a Gift of the Lotus Defense, a random MR8 pre-Second Dream newbie who had bought the Equinox Prime package decided to just /meditate on the objective

    I, in Titania (Mr22), am like fuck it sure, /meditate

    And then the Nyx (MR24) just rolls in and is like "hey guess what my 4 does?"

    Atlas (MR26) is like WHY NAWT while his Rumblers do the actual work

    We talk about world peace and love and how we're gonna defeat the Grineer via Zen* (but also Equinox's 4, Nyx's 4, Altas' 4, and me, uh.... ....................................................... I'm cute ok, I sat on Equinox's head in tiny mode for a bit)

    10 rounds of absolute nonsense and goofing off

    And that, my fraindos, mai gaiz, is why I still play online games. Because every so often, emergent behavior happens, and it's beautiful. Humans are actually OK, did you know? They really are.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    I remember I was doing some piss easy Earth defense mission for some damn Nightwave objective or another. It turned into a discussion about whether or not it's ethical for the Tenno to sabotage Tyl Regor's cure for clone-cancer.

    Before it turned into speculation about Grineer sex.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    I just want World on Fire back. :(

    Honestly, I'm the opposite. Please remove "press 4 to kill whole room" ults. Stab Saryn in the goddamn eye.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    Also, purchasable fashionframe config slots are going to bankrupt me.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Ok, so, people I know shit on multiplayer games a lot. They're like "Seraph, why do you put up with this shit. You've literally been playing online multiplayer nonsense since 1997 (Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 Multiplayer PVP). You have seen the absolute worst this community has to offer. You saw the neo-Nazis before anyone in the mainstream press was worried about it. You saw the misogynists. You saw the racists. You've seen some Shit."

    And I'm like yeah

    But

    Today, during a Gift of the Lotus Defense, a random MR8 pre-Second Dream newbie who had bought the Equinox Prime package decided to just /meditate on the objective

    I, in Titania (Mr22), am like fuck it sure, /meditate

    And then the Nyx (MR24) just rolls in and is like "hey guess what my 4 does?"

    Atlas (MR26) is like WHY NAWT while his Rumblers do the actual work

    We talk about world peace and love and how we're gonna defeat the Grineer via Zen* (but also Equinox's 4, Nyx's 4, Altas' 4, and me, uh.... ....................................................... I'm cute ok, I sat on Equinox's head in tiny mode for a bit)

    10 rounds of absolute nonsense and goofing off

    And that, my fraindos, mai gaiz, is why I still play online games. Because every so often, emergent behavior happens, and it's beautiful. Humans are actually OK, did you know? They really are.

    Humans are OK sometimes.

    But yeah, the times I've had where my group isn't acting like silent NPCs have usually been pretty great. In this game and others

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    I got called an MR farmer for only taking 500 hours to hit rank 23 once. That is about the only bad interaction I have had in Warframe.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Ok, so, people I know shit on multiplayer games a lot. They're like "Seraph, why do you put up with this shit. You've literally been playing online multiplayer nonsense since 1997 (Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 Multiplayer PVP). You have seen the absolute worst this community has to offer. You saw the neo-Nazis before anyone in the mainstream press was worried about it. You saw the misogynists. You saw the racists. You've seen some Shit."

    And I'm like yeah

    But

    Today, during a Gift of the Lotus Defense, a random MR8 pre-Second Dream newbie who had bought the Equinox Prime package decided to just /meditate on the objective

    I, in Titania (Mr22), am like fuck it sure, /meditate

    And then the Nyx (MR24) just rolls in and is like "hey guess what my 4 does?"

    Atlas (MR26) is like WHY NAWT while his Rumblers do the actual work

    We talk about world peace and love and how we're gonna defeat the Grineer via Zen* (but also Equinox's 4, Nyx's 4, Altas' 4, and me, uh.... ....................................................... I'm cute ok, I sat on Equinox's head in tiny mode for a bit)

    10 rounds of absolute nonsense and goofing off

    And that, my fraindos, mai gaiz, is why I still play online games. Because every so often, emergent behavior happens, and it's beautiful. Humans are actually OK, did you know? They really are.

    Once in an OverWatch match, one of the players on the other team somehow got stuck in geometry behind the counter in Snaxxramas on Blizzard World. So he started making jokes in about serving smoothies, and everyone came to look at him and we formed an orderly line and had a dance party until like 30 seconds before the time expired when everyone just popped all their ults at once.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2019
    furlion wrote: »
    I got called an MR farmer for only taking 500 hours to hit rank 23 once. That is about the only bad interaction I have had in Warframe.

    Huh. You were called a Warframe player for playing Warframe. In Warframe. By someone playing it.

    I wouldn’t even know what to say to that.

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    furlion wrote: »
    I got called an MR farmer for only taking 500 hours to hit rank 23 once. That is about the only bad interaction I have had in Warframe.

    Huh. You were called a Warframe player for playing Warframe. In Warframe. By someone playing it.

    I wouldn’t even know what to say to that.

    I didn't either! They were only 14 with like 1200 hours and maybe they were mad I did it so much faster? It was a weird encounter.

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    kralizecckralizecc Registered User regular
    Sounds like an ideal vacation spot. I
    Ok, so, people I know shit on multiplayer games a lot. They're like "Seraph, why do you put up with this shit. You've literally been playing online multiplayer nonsense since 1997 (Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 Multiplayer PVP). You have seen the absolute worst this community has to offer. You saw the neo-Nazis before anyone in the mainstream press was worried about it. You saw the misogynists. You saw the racists. You've seen some Shit."

    And I'm like yeah

    But

    Today, during a Gift of the Lotus Defense, a random MR8 pre-Second Dream newbie who had bought the Equinox Prime package decided to just /meditate on the objective

    I, in Titania (Mr22), am like fuck it sure, /meditate

    And then the Nyx (MR24) just rolls in and is like "hey guess what my 4 does?"

    Atlas (MR26) is like WHY NAWT while his Rumblers do the actual work

    We talk about world peace and love and how we're gonna defeat the Grineer via Zen* (but also Equinox's 4, Nyx's 4, Altas' 4, and me, uh.... ....................................................... I'm cute ok, I sat on Equinox's head in tiny mode for a bit)

    10 rounds of absolute nonsense and goofing off

    And that, my fraindos, mai gaiz, is why I still play online games. Because every so often, emergent behavior happens, and it's beautiful. Humans are actually OK, did you know? They really are.

    The real questions, nar shaddaa or canyon oasis?

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    DacDac Registered User regular
    Not really happy about reworks throwing abilities away. Did not care for it with Wukong, not caring for it with Ember, and super not looking forward to when they rework Ivara and remove Navigator.

    Also, DE, can we maybe get an item that adds arcane slots to melee weapons that don't have them? Since it's kind of obvious at this point that you aren't going to continue expanding the zaw system.

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    KamarKamar Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    I just want World on Fire back. :(

    Honestly, I'm the opposite. Please remove "press 4 to kill whole room" ults. Stab Saryn in the goddamn eye.

    I could get behind this...as long as Peacemaker doesn't count.

    You technically have to aim Peacemaker!

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    Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    kralizecc wrote: »

    The real questions, nar shaddaa or canyon oasis?

    Canyon. I liked setting up deathtraps in that one area with the lightning traps.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2019
    I bought the caged condroc in Cetus for an orbiter decoration, went to place it, and oh, dear. I’m not the biggest animal rights guy, but that’s not a cage, that’s an Old Earth torture device, like the chamber of ease for avian dinosaurs. At least if there were a trained condroc companion in the game (and really, why isn’t there?) then I could think of it like a car seat for Bloodwing to chill out in when he’s not flying around fetching me a shiny thing or some Grineer’s clone-eyes.

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    kralizecckralizecc Registered User regular
    edited October 2019
    kralizecc wrote: »

    The real questions, nar shaddaa or canyon oasis?

    Canyon. I liked setting up deathtraps in that one area with the lightning traps.

    Oh, I meant the different game lobby's in the microsoft internet gaming zone, which was the most active community of jk'ers back then. Though that community was more toxic than any I've seen since, with second place being almost too far away to see from there. I still miss the rare gems and friendships formed around Nar. Nostalgia is powerful, but I don't think it's simply rose colored glasses, that game was sooo good, makes me want to find some lobby's with FF Sabers Elite Only as the title.

    Nar was the chat lobby the really rude trash talking A holes used early on, Canyon was where newer folks, and folks who just didn't hate everyone would find games and chat in. I mean, those weren't hard rules, just what seemed to happen most often.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    I just want World on Fire back. :(

    Honestly, I'm the opposite. Please remove "press 4 to kill whole room" ults. Stab Saryn in the goddamn eye.

    You're just jealous of best girl Saryn, with the best powers and best outfits.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    how are press 4 to kill room ults different that hold left click to kill rooms?

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Dac wrote: »
    Not really happy about reworks throwing abilities away. Did not care for it with Wukong, not caring for it with Ember, and super not looking forward to when they rework Ivara and remove Navigator.

    Also, DE, can we maybe get an item that adds arcane slots to melee weapons that don't have them? Since it's kind of obvious at this point that you aren't going to continue expanding the zaw system.

    yeah, getting the feeling that maybe their direction is drifting away from my interest.

    the utility slot on guns will nice/okay though. IDK.

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    DacDac Registered User regular
    Dac wrote: »
    Not really happy about reworks throwing abilities away. Did not care for it with Wukong, not caring for it with Ember, and super not looking forward to when they rework Ivara and remove Navigator.

    Also, DE, can we maybe get an item that adds arcane slots to melee weapons that don't have them? Since it's kind of obvious at this point that you aren't going to continue expanding the zaw system.

    yeah, getting the feeling that maybe their direction is drifting away from my interest.

    the utility slot on guns will nice/okay though. IDK.

    I just became too frustrated with their development style of 'drop huge change/system, do a few hotfixes, maybe patch in a few weeks, then abandon all promised future development of said system for 2-3 years until it needs to be "reworked"'.

    (That and, as a primarily melee player, I've been waiting for Melee 3.0 for literally a year and a half at this point. The first 'phase' was dropped like half a year ago. To my utter disbelief, they seem to still be unsure about what to do about Channeling.)

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    Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    kralizecc wrote: »
    kralizecc wrote: »

    The real questions, nar shaddaa or canyon oasis?

    Canyon. I liked setting up deathtraps in that one area with the lightning traps.

    Oh, I meant the different game lobby's in the microsoft internet gaming zone, which was the most active community of jk'ers back then. Though that community was more toxic than any I've seen since, with second place being almost too far away to see from there. I still miss the rare gems and friendships formed around Nar. Nostalgia is powerful, but I don't think it's simply rose colored glasses, that game was sooo good, makes me want to find some lobby's with FF Sabers Elite Only as the title.

    Nar was the chat lobby the really rude trash talking A holes used early on, Canyon was where newer folks, and folks who just didn't hate everyone would find games and chat in. I mean, those weren't hard rules, just what seemed to happen most often.

    At the risk of continuing to be very off topic... I genuinely can't remember which one I was in. I was like... 10 years old. I do remember the absolute assholes in there though. Ran into some really bizzare cases of hacking, too, of the sort that become creepypasta legend (got attacked by a sentient elevator that shot concussion rounds in a Capture the Flag map where it bugged out and didn't register there even *being* another player; and then there was the time a giant Imperial shuttle spawned in Canyon and ate everyone...)

    I guess on topic, maybe Warframe could save the PVP thing by having a mode that's basically like the old "No Force; Sabers/Fists only" rooms.

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