Also all about some half assed schlubby superheroes who barely tried on costumes
love a show that can just casually show a guy seriously asking questions about the nature of lethal force in policing while wearing a giant panda head and goes "these two things are just as important, keep up motherfucker"
so, okay, some world building questions based on some asides in the pilot
first of all, it seems like ALL firearms were restricted by Redford? I’m wondering how much of that had to do with the cops getting attacked on White Night, where they weren’t able to defend themselves? just spitballing there, though
the squid storms are probably from Veidt trying to keep the illusion alive
and Veidt’s servants are...clones, or genetically engineered, probably? seems like the logical conclusion from the genetic engineering he did in the book
That cold open, which centers real-life superhero Bass Reeves AND the Tulsa race riot, was incredible
What it didn't outright say, but seems like MIGHT be relevant in the long term, is that the plane flying overhead was flown by cops, and the cops were dropping firebombs on an affluent black community.
I think this show's gonna go to some weird, interesting places
(Also it's weird that this is Tulsa, whose northeast quadrant overlaps with the Cherokee Nation, and we haven't seen ANY indigenous people, but whatever.
Well, that one kid might be native. Seems like he and his sister were both adopted. We'll see.)
I appreciate that a probable percentage of the drive behind this show was Lindelof going "man, Regina King kinda got left out of the final season of The Leftovers, better get her something good to make up for it"
is he Nite Owl? Would the ages work? He's got the ship, there's an owl mug in his office, a former vigilante becoming the police chief makes sense and it ties into the comic with his death kicking off a whole load of shit.
Anyway, loved the pilot, in for this shit. And it's gonna be super fucking weird because I live in Tulsa!
So, uhhh, the interdimensional attacks are a hoax though
Like you guys get what that possibly means we're headed towards with the kalvalry holding this as a core tenant right?
Like there's a potential, "the kalvalry are right", path we might get walked down here that I'm not totally interested in.
Having them be right about one thing but that not excusing their monstrous behavior/other beliefs would completely fit with the nature of their founder
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Casually HardcoreOnce an Asshole. Trying to be better.Registered Userregular
I have the feeling that the officer Involved shooting at the start of this episode wasn’t just an accident.
So, uhhh, the interdimensional attacks are a hoax though
Like you guys get what that possibly means we're headed towards with the kalvalry holding this as a core tenant right?
Like there's a potential, "the kalvalry are right", path we might get walked down here that I'm not totally interested in.
Having them be right about one thing but that not excusing their monstrous behavior/other beliefs would completely fit with the nature of their founder
The status quo is horrible but the rebels are monsters is 100 percent in line with Watchmen’s world view. That’s especially true when talking about Veidt and Rorschach.
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So this show takes place in the present time, but the rad Carpenter-esque soundtrack keeps tugging at my brainsponge and placing it back in the 80s (which is when the original Watchmen took place in). I dunno if that's intentional or not, but it does give a strange, discombobulated feeling to it, at least to me.
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AtomicTofuShe's a straight-up supervillain, yoRegistered Userregular
When the soundtrack came on I immediately thought "this sounds a lot like Trent Reznor/Atticus Ross"
So this show takes place in the present time, but the rad Carpenter-esque soundtrack keeps tugging at my brainsponge and placing it back in the 80s (which is when the original Watchmen took place in). I dunno if that's intentional or not, but it does give a strange, discombobulated feeling to it, at least to me.
Nothing is more late 2010s than an 80s synthpop soundtrack.
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That shot at the end of the cold open with the kid standing there is going to stick with me for awhile.
is he Nite Owl? Would the ages work? He's got the ship, there's an owl mug in his office, a former vigilante becoming the police chief makes sense and it ties into the comic with his death kicking off a whole load of shit.
Anyway, loved the pilot, in for this shit. And it's gonna be super fucking weird because I live in Tulsa!
I took it as
Nite Owl provided some ships or the specs for the ships to the police. It went by quick but it had police markings on it and stuff. It's possible though. I would think if it were actually his he'd have piloted.
The AV Club's writeup on the pilot is very, very good. Caught a lot of shit I didn't, has a unique perspective on stuff. It feels like oldschool AVClub, which I intend as a large compliment. Their TV coverage has been trending towards recap, but this is actual deep-dive criticism. I'd nearly forgotten how much I miss it.
The idea that this show is unashamedly pro-cop seems to be gaining some traction and I'm having a real tough time seeing why
The only thing I can think is if you lack the subtlety to understand gray and think that every show has a black and white good guy and a bad guy... Well, the cops were technically the good guys?
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Also all about some half assed schlubby superheroes who barely tried on costumes
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love a show that can just casually show a guy seriously asking questions about the nature of lethal force in policing while wearing a giant panda head and goes "these two things are just as important, keep up motherfucker"
the squid storms are probably from Veidt trying to keep the illusion alive
and Veidt’s servants are...clones, or genetically engineered, probably? seems like the logical conclusion from the genetic engineering he did in the book
maaaan there’s a lot going on here
What it didn't outright say, but seems like MIGHT be relevant in the long term, is that the plane flying overhead was flown by cops, and the cops were dropping firebombs on an affluent black community.
I think this show's gonna go to some weird, interesting places
(Also it's weird that this is Tulsa, whose northeast quadrant overlaps with the Cherokee Nation, and we haven't seen ANY indigenous people, but whatever.
Well, that one kid might be native. Seems like he and his sister were both adopted. We'll see.)
but gosh this is sitting in the ol' brainbox real well and has gone up in my estimation with basically every passing second
I am forgetting what this is in reference to
also new question is if this should just be an open spoilers thread cause there's gonna be A LOT TO TALK ABOUT
nobody in the Watchmen universe has superpowers other than Dr Manhattan, right? there’s no way he’s somehow a superhero?
As far as is known, no. That's why
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Anyway, loved the pilot, in for this shit. And it's gonna be super fucking weird because I live in Tulsa!
Also I imagine the Kalvary uses the New Frontier publishing Rorschach’s journals as gospel basically
Like you guys get what that possibly means we're headed towards with the kalvalry holding this as a core tenant right?
Like there's a potential, "the kalvalry are right", path we might get walked down here that I'm not totally interested in.
I highly suspect that we are getting the cops are not on the level either though.
Having them be right about one thing but that not excusing their monstrous behavior/other beliefs would completely fit with the nature of their founder
The status quo is horrible but the rebels are monsters is 100 percent in line with Watchmen’s world view. That’s especially true when talking about Veidt and Rorschach.
Lo and behold, Reznor/Ross in the credits
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Nothing is more late 2010s than an 80s synthpop soundtrack.
I took it as
Seventh Cavalry was Custer's unit.
Okay, I am now mollified about the show's thus-far lack of native shit. There's no way it's not coming.
Also the images of Custer popped up in the interrogation pod when Looking Glass said it.
and I dunno. The extrajudicial kidnapping and torture.
The only thing I can think is if you lack the subtlety to understand gray and think that every show has a black and white good guy and a bad guy... Well, the cops were technically the good guys?