There could be no doubt about it now. Shave had been right about everything. Not only was he right that Charlie had been murdered. He was right that it was a conspiracy. And he was right that people everyone had considered their friends were the ones responsible. Already they had identified two of the culprits. Who knew how many more of them were out there? It’s not like the villagers were experienced horse-murderers. No one was quite sure exactly how many people it took to kill a horse.
What they did know was that the number was more than one, and almost certainly more than two. With multiple possible killers on the loose, it became even more imperative that they root out the evil that had taken hold in their community. So even though they had already lost so many, the villagers redoubled their efforts to find the ones responsible for sending Charlie to an early grave.
But even though they all had been making progress, the constant suspicion was starting to take its toll on the existing relationships within the village. Friends who once would have trusted each other with their lives were now looking at each other with caution. Neighbors who had eaten dinners at each other’s houses now ate alone, and wondered whether they really knew the people they had lived among for their entire lives.
And amidst all of this suspicion, villagers continued to go missing, and even with their attention focused almost entirely on finding Charlie’s killers, people were starting to notice, if only because there were fewer people around to help with the investigation. On this day Captain Wedderburn and Doctor John, both well-known ladies’ men, disappeared into the aether. Some of the women of the village just assumed that they had done wrong by someone, and this was their revenge. But others wondered whether something sinister was afoot. After all, if someone was capable of killing Charlie, weren’t they capable of killing others?
At the end of the day, the village gathered once again at the meeting hall. Once again Shave was there, the Golden Fiddle in front of him. The villagers were still not sure if the man had slept since this whole sordid affair had started. If he hadn’t, he wasn’t showing any signs of fatigue. Shave seemed as determined as ever to find everyone who was responsible for killing his friend.
“Now you all see the truth,” Shave said, “just as the Son, in his wisdom, saw the truth. There is a sickness here that must be cured. And we will cure it, with the help of this instrument, and by the blessing of the Trinity. We will get justice for Charlie, just as we have so far. Have we found any more of the cancer that needs to be excised.”
The village was eager to show that they continued to make progress. They were eager to put Shave’s mind at ease. But mostly they were eager to put everything behind them. So there was no hesitation at all when Shave stopped speaking. They grabbed the Mermaid and pushed her to the front of the room.
“Do you have anything to say for yourself?” Shave asked.
The Mermaid opened her fish mouth, and let out a gargled plea. Unfortunately, her head being that of a fish, it was impossible for anyone, especially Shave, to understand anything that she was saying. The Mermaid started gesticulating wildly with her fins, desperately trying to convey that she had nothing to do with Charlie’s death. That she couldn’t possibly have tried to kill him. But to no avail, her pleas fell on ears that couldn’t possibly understand what she was saying.
After several minutes of failed communication, Shave cut her off with the sound of his bow on the strings of the Golden Fiddle.
The Dead Assuran - The Mermaid oldmanken - Captain Wedderburn Virgil_Leads_You - Doctor John
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H3KnucklesBut we decide which is rightand which is an illusion.Registered Userregular
Damn, bad day.
Oh hey, chalk up another seering of Able Rodgers as village.
i was intimidated last night and could take no action.
man, the mafia have a lot of interference powers.
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H3KnucklesBut we decide which is rightand which is an illusion.Registered Userregular
Yeah, I kind of figured it'd be like that, one night duration per application. I think this also bolsters the idea that the death reports are more trustworthy than a single night's seering (such as with disc/Lukey). I think the "corrupted" notes on death narration is a separate thing that may or may not indicate a death miller (village showing up falsely as mafia after death).
Look, I have no idea who to target and I don't know how a lot of people play. I have people on my radar sure, but with readings being so mixed up, it's kind of a shot in the dark
"May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
Is there someone who is willing to vouch for Obifett as seered village at this point?
I didn't see the green result personally, but I'm in communication with someone who has made that claim, FWIW
EDIT: to expand on this a little, the person making this claim is not Obifett, and the role name that Obi gave to my contact held up when I Questioned him last night. That said, my contact is not fully verified so there's a small possibility that they and Obifett are trying to run some sort of team con on me. **shrug**
oldmanken was my contact - he approached me after I made the day 2 call on phyphor.
Obifett had given ken his role name, which ken did not tell me. On night 3, he investigated the role name while I questioned Obifett. Everything checked out, but I still had a little concern because I hadn't verified oldmanken. Now that he's shown up green in the narration, that's enough for me to consider Obi confirmed.
Yeah, I kind of figured it'd be like that, one night duration per application. I think this also bolsters the idea that the death reports are more trustworthy than a single night's seering (such as with disc/Lukey). I think the "corrupted" notes on death narration is a separate thing that may or may not indicate a death miller (village showing up falsely as mafia after death).
Oh, and since you'll probably ask me how I know that Obifett wasn't painted - I'm also pretty sure I've figured out how to know if an investigation is accurate or not.
I think the key to ensuring a correct seering in this game is to do the Questioning and the Investigating on the same night if you can. Lucedes and I inadvertently did that with Phyphor/Art Jackman on night 1, and that wound up being correct.
Then when Sir Fab did his investigation on Able Rogers night 2, oldmanken was questioning Lucedes and got a message that said "the results suddenly went missing!", which I'm now assuming is a tell for a falsified result since Able Rogers came up red for Sir Fab on night 2 (when Lucedes was a likely target for the "paint") after coming up green for Moridin on night 1.
Is there someone who is willing to vouch for Obifett as seered village at this point?
I didn't see the green result personally, but I'm in communication with someone who has made that claim, FWIW
EDIT: to expand on this a little, the person making this claim is not Obifett, and the role name that Obi gave to my contact held up when I Questioned him last night. That said, my contact is not fully verified so there's a small possibility that they and Obifett are trying to run some sort of team con on me. **shrug**
oldmanken was my contact - he approached me after I made the day 2 call on phyphor.
Obifett had given ken his role name, which ken did not tell me. On night 3, he investigated the role name while I questioned Obifett. Everything checked out, but I still had a little concern because I hadn't verified oldmanken. Now that he's shown up green in the narration, that's enough for me to consider Obi confirmed.
Sounds pretty good to me. Only question is when Obi gave his name to ken (basically was Obi checked out that night or was there a delay)?
I like your idea about the missing results, however I got the "results Missing" on a night i investigated a role, and i don't think questioning results can be tampered with (at least that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be helpful either cause then you'd show as someone else's role and it'd be too easy to find out).
Have the mafia missed a kill yet? If not, the fact that outed vig is still alive feels really suspicious...
I agree with this 100%. I have no idea what plans the mafia have, or if there is a VERY hard working guardian out there. But I am becoming paranoid of myself.... *takes a look at self in the mirror* Am I a mafia?
"May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
Is there someone who is willing to vouch for Obifett as seered village at this point?
I didn't see the green result personally, but I'm in communication with someone who has made that claim, FWIW
EDIT: to expand on this a little, the person making this claim is not Obifett, and the role name that Obi gave to my contact held up when I Questioned him last night. That said, my contact is not fully verified so there's a small possibility that they and Obifett are trying to run some sort of team con on me. **shrug**
oldmanken was my contact - he approached me after I made the day 2 call on phyphor.
Obifett had given ken his role name, which ken did not tell me. On night 3, he investigated the role name while I questioned Obifett. Everything checked out, but I still had a little concern because I hadn't verified oldmanken. Now that he's shown up green in the narration, that's enough for me to consider Obi confirmed.
Which night did oldmanken seer obi? Did they provide you any of their other seer results?
I'm going to edit this up. Player List:
1. 38thDoe
2. Assuran - The Mermaid - [N1 Intimidated]
3. Auralynx - Miss Brown
4. Bluecyan - [N2 Questioned role 4 under]
5. Cythraul - Helmethead
6. discrider - Lukey
7. Ghostly Clockwork - Process Man - Corrupted
8. Gizzy - Jack Lynch
9. Grunt's Ghosts - Old Moose Coosten
10. H3Knuckles
11. JPants
12. Kilnaga - Billy Peddle
13. kime - Summer
14. LostNinja [Seered as Sally Ann]
15. Lucedes - [Claimed to Be Able Rogers / Village] [Seered Village N1 by Moridin88] [Seered Mafia N2 by Sir Fab]
16. MamaWolf - Claims to be Butcher Vig [Was Seered by Sir Fab N1] [Was Seered Mafia by Lucedes N2]
17. Moridin889
18. ObiFett
19. oldmanken - Captain Wedderburn - [n2 questioned Lucedes to no result]
20. Phyphor - Art Jackman - Corrupted
21. premium - Johnny Dhu
22. Romantic Undead
23. shalmelo - [N2 Intimidated]
24. Sir Fabulous
25. Virgil_Leads_You - Doctor John [N1 PM Blocked]
26. ZombieHero - [N2 PM Blocked] [N2 Role 2 above is village]
Dramatis Personae:
1. Able Rogers - [Claimed to Be Lucedes / Village] [Seered Village N1 by Moridin88] [Seered Mafia N2 by Sir Fab] [Seered village n4 by
2. Art Jackman - Phyphor - Corrupted
3. Billy Peddle - Kilnaga
4. Blue Puttee
5. The Butcher - Claims to be MamaWolf Vig [Was Seered by Sir Fab N1] [Was Seered Mafia by Lucedes N2]
6. Captain Wedderburn - oldmanken
7. Doctor John - Virgil_Leads_You [Seered Village by oldmanken N1] [Seered Village by Virgil N3]
8. Gideon Brown - [Seered Mafia by Virgil N1]
9. Helmethead - Cythraul
10. Jack Hinks -[Seered Village by Lost Ninja N1]
11. Jack Lynch - Gizzy
12. Janie - [N3 seered village by BlueCyan]
13. John Barbour
14. Johnny Dhu - premium
15. Lukey - discrider [was role seered by H3Knuckles as mafia same night died village N3]
16. Margarita - [Seered as Village by Discrider on N1, claim by Bluecyan]
17. Mari Mac
18. The Mermaid [seered by Grunt's Ghost (dead villager) as Village N1]
19. Miss Brown - Auralynx
20. Old Moose Coosten
21. Penelope
22. Process Man - Ghostly Clockwork - Corrupted
23. Sally Ann [claimed to be LostNinja by Lucedes, confirmed by LostNinja]
24. The Scolded Husband [Seered mafia n4 by BlueCyan]
25. Summer - kime
26. William Oldford
i think this is updated okay, let me know if i missed stuff.
38th was PM restricted N3.
38th had results went missing N3.
JPants had results went missing N1.
You have your own information duplicated between role and name but name is missing seered village N4 by H3
Jack lynch seered village N1 by bluecyan (might not be that useful now, or then for that matter)
RU claims to have investigated helmethead N1
RU claims to have investigated Miss Brown N2
RU claims no action N3
No results were given for their two seer actions.
I also forgot to mention in thread, I checked Janie N2 and it care back village. I was told someone attempted to seer them N1 and it came back blocked.
Which night did oldmanken seer obi? Did they provide you any of their other seer results?
I don't know what oldmanken did on night 1. Night 2 he questioned Lucedes and got the results went missing message, night 3 he investigated the role name he was given while I was simultaneously questioning Obi. Last night he got got by Mamawolf. As for me, I questioned phyphor on night 1, got role blocked/missed deadline on night 2, questioned Obi on night 3 and then got paranoid and investigated Obi's role name myself on night 4 just to be super duper certain - he came up green again.
in a weird twist of fate, i'm gonna go with H3Knuckles again
because we have an unconfirmed role/alignment, unless someone wants to vouch for them or has a better suggestion.
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MamaWolfThe wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered Userregular
From what I am reading,, too many people are coming up village and not mafia when seered at night. So, either mafia has some manipulation, or maybe I'm not seeing things right. People haven't really been coming out and saying they seered anyone mafia since !phyphor (except someone saw me mafia, which is wrong cause I'm not)
Maybe Lucedes' death tells us the most? If we can trust death results. If anyone else has thoughts I'd love to hear them.
I asked if death results were accurate/reliable and got CD'd. Don't think this is an assumption we can run with.
In all honesty, I don't think the village has much of a chance when again, seering may or may not be reliable and not sure that deaths in narration are reliable. This is rough
"May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
From what I am reading,, too many people are coming up village and not mafia when seered at night. So, either mafia has some manipulation, or maybe I'm not seeing things right. People haven't really been coming out and saying they seered anyone mafia since !phyphor (except someone saw me mafia, which is wrong cause I'm not)
Maybe Lucedes' death tells us the most? If we can trust death results. If anyone else has thoughts I'd love to hear them.
I asked if death results were accurate/reliable and got CD'd. Don't think this is an assumption we can run with.
In all honesty, I don't think the village has much of a chance when again, seering may or may not be reliable and not sure that deaths in narration are reliable. This is rough
Probably should have emphasized this more
Scolded husband came back mafia
From my own and Lucedes/Virgil's public records this could be:
17. Moridin889 - Quiet and non-helpful
18. ObiFett - Quiet but clearly trying to softnetwork with others (would appreciate some people confirming they are actually softnetworking and not just saying they are)
22. Romantic Undead - Quiet and an odd vote placement when phyphors role was revealed but before the connection it was phyphors role was apparent
23. shalmelo - Seems to be in ObiFetts network web and seems to be trying to get information out
24. Sir Fabulous - Abandoned their own call for Lucedes after the result seemed suspicious at a non-insignificant time (this assumes that Lucedes isn't village otherwise we just jumped from one mafia to another)
ObiFett/SirFab are the only ones in there I have a good feeling about being village, but if anyone else has information to eliminate, clarify what is going on it would be appreciated.
in a weird twist of fate, i'm gonna go with H3Knuckles again
because we have an unconfirmed role/alignment, unless someone wants to vouch for them or has a better suggestion.
Through a series of chained investigations/questions H3 checks out in both role and alignment. This could still be inaccurate due to mafia power usage or multiple mafia in the chain which is a possibility but seems a bad place to go with out other good reasons. I have personally done some of the investigation on H3 but not all of it.
MamaWolfThe wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered Userregular
My Thoughts:
1. 38thDoe- been networking and got a village vibe
4. Bluecyan- I believe to be village based on network as welll
10. H3Knuckles-unknown networking and just not a good feeling. Though has been I informative....so idk.
11. JPants- doing a lot of networking...could've easily killed me off by now but hasn't so gives me a village vibe
14. LostNinja- not I network with, so idk
15. Lucedes-had a mafia scare the other day, but I'm not convinced
16. MamaWolf- your village vig with a terrible shot
17. Moridin889- can't get a read on this game
18. ObiFett- has all but been confirmed to me to be village
22. Romantic Undead- quite than last game...but life could be in the way...hmmm
23. shalmelo-helpful with !phyphor, but unsure if a mafia in village clothing.
24. Sir Fabulous- networking hard, though we did have at least one mafia in there....but village for the most part.
26. ZombieHero- no read yet
I'm at work, so will vote later.
"May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
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MamaWolfThe wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered Userregular
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What they did know was that the number was more than one, and almost certainly more than two. With multiple possible killers on the loose, it became even more imperative that they root out the evil that had taken hold in their community. So even though they had already lost so many, the villagers redoubled their efforts to find the ones responsible for sending Charlie to an early grave.
But even though they all had been making progress, the constant suspicion was starting to take its toll on the existing relationships within the village. Friends who once would have trusted each other with their lives were now looking at each other with caution. Neighbors who had eaten dinners at each other’s houses now ate alone, and wondered whether they really knew the people they had lived among for their entire lives.
And amidst all of this suspicion, villagers continued to go missing, and even with their attention focused almost entirely on finding Charlie’s killers, people were starting to notice, if only because there were fewer people around to help with the investigation. On this day Captain Wedderburn and Doctor John, both well-known ladies’ men, disappeared into the aether. Some of the women of the village just assumed that they had done wrong by someone, and this was their revenge. But others wondered whether something sinister was afoot. After all, if someone was capable of killing Charlie, weren’t they capable of killing others?
At the end of the day, the village gathered once again at the meeting hall. Once again Shave was there, the Golden Fiddle in front of him. The villagers were still not sure if the man had slept since this whole sordid affair had started. If he hadn’t, he wasn’t showing any signs of fatigue. Shave seemed as determined as ever to find everyone who was responsible for killing his friend.
“Now you all see the truth,” Shave said, “just as the Son, in his wisdom, saw the truth. There is a sickness here that must be cured. And we will cure it, with the help of this instrument, and by the blessing of the Trinity. We will get justice for Charlie, just as we have so far. Have we found any more of the cancer that needs to be excised.”
The village was eager to show that they continued to make progress. They were eager to put Shave’s mind at ease. But mostly they were eager to put everything behind them. So there was no hesitation at all when Shave stopped speaking. They grabbed the Mermaid and pushed her to the front of the room.
“Do you have anything to say for yourself?” Shave asked.
The Mermaid opened her fish mouth, and let out a gargled plea. Unfortunately, her head being that of a fish, it was impossible for anyone, especially Shave, to understand anything that she was saying. The Mermaid started gesticulating wildly with her fins, desperately trying to convey that she had nothing to do with Charlie’s death. That she couldn’t possibly have tried to kill him. But to no avail, her pleas fell on ears that couldn’t possibly understand what she was saying.
After several minutes of failed communication, Shave cut her off with the sound of his bow on the strings of the Golden Fiddle.
The Dead
Assuran - The Mermaid
oldmanken - Captain Wedderburn
Virgil_Leads_You - Doctor John
Oh hey, chalk up another seering of Able Rodgers as village.
Day Five has started and will end on Monday at 9pm EST
duuude
i was intimidated last night and could take no action.
man, the mafia have a lot of interference powers.
Look, I have no idea who to target and I don't know how a lot of people play. I have people on my radar sure, but with readings being so mixed up, it's kind of a shot in the dark
i don't follow
I'll explain.
oldmanken was my contact - he approached me after I made the day 2 call on phyphor.
Obifett had given ken his role name, which ken did not tell me. On night 3, he investigated the role name while I questioned Obifett. Everything checked out, but I still had a little concern because I hadn't verified oldmanken. Now that he's shown up green in the narration, that's enough for me to consider Obi confirmed.
Oh, and since you'll probably ask me how I know that Obifett wasn't painted - I'm also pretty sure I've figured out how to know if an investigation is accurate or not.
I think the key to ensuring a correct seering in this game is to do the Questioning and the Investigating on the same night if you can. Lucedes and I inadvertently did that with Phyphor/Art Jackman on night 1, and that wound up being correct.
Then when Sir Fab did his investigation on Able Rogers night 2, oldmanken was questioning Lucedes and got a message that said "the results suddenly went missing!", which I'm now assuming is a tell for a falsified result since Able Rogers came up red for Sir Fab on night 2 (when Lucedes was a likely target for the "paint") after coming up green for Moridin on night 1.
Sounds pretty good to me. Only question is when Obi gave his name to ken (basically was Obi checked out that night or was there a delay)?
I like your idea about the missing results, however I got the "results Missing" on a night i investigated a role, and i don't think questioning results can be tampered with (at least that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be helpful either cause then you'd show as someone else's role and it'd be too easy to find out).
I agree with this 100%. I have no idea what plans the mafia have, or if there is a VERY hard working guardian out there. But I am becoming paranoid of myself.... *takes a look at self in the mirror* Am I a mafia?
Edit: Nobody was aware of this target.
Virgil, don't think for an undead second I didn't notice this. Cheeky bird.
Which night did oldmanken seer obi? Did they provide you any of their other seer results?
i think this is updated okay, let me know if i missed stuff.
38th had results went missing N3.
JPants had results went missing N1.
You have your own information duplicated between role and name but name is missing seered village N4 by H3
Jack lynch seered village N1 by bluecyan (might not be that useful now, or then for that matter)
RU claims to have investigated helmethead N1
RU claims to have investigated Miss Brown N2
RU claims no action N3
No results were given for their two seer actions.
I don't know what oldmanken did on night 1. Night 2 he questioned Lucedes and got the results went missing message, night 3 he investigated the role name he was given while I was simultaneously questioning Obi. Last night he got got by Mamawolf. As for me, I questioned phyphor on night 1, got role blocked/missed deadline on night 2, questioned Obi on night 3 and then got paranoid and investigated Obi's role name myself on night 4 just to be super duper certain - he came up green again.
because we have an unconfirmed role/alignment, unless someone wants to vouch for them or has a better suggestion.
In all honesty, I don't think the village has much of a chance when again, seering may or may not be reliable and not sure that deaths in narration are reliable. This is rough
Nintendo ID: Pastalonius
Smite\LoL:Gremlidin \ WoW & Overwatch & Hots: Gremlidin#1734
3ds: 3282-2248-0453
Are Death Colors reliable?
Nintendo ID: Pastalonius
Smite\LoL:Gremlidin \ WoW & Overwatch & Hots: Gremlidin#1734
3ds: 3282-2248-0453
Probably should have emphasized this more
Scolded husband came back mafia
From my own and Lucedes/Virgil's public records this could be:
17. Moridin889 - Quiet and non-helpful
18. ObiFett - Quiet but clearly trying to softnetwork with others (would appreciate some people confirming they are actually softnetworking and not just saying they are)
22. Romantic Undead - Quiet and an odd vote placement when phyphors role was revealed but before the connection it was phyphors role was apparent
23. shalmelo - Seems to be in ObiFetts network web and seems to be trying to get information out
24. Sir Fabulous - Abandoned their own call for Lucedes after the result seemed suspicious at a non-insignificant time (this assumes that Lucedes isn't village otherwise we just jumped from one mafia to another)
ObiFett/SirFab are the only ones in there I have a good feeling about being village, but if anyone else has information to eliminate, clarify what is going on it would be appreciated.
Through a series of chained investigations/questions H3 checks out in both role and alignment. This could still be inaccurate due to mafia power usage or multiple mafia in the chain which is a possibility but seems a bad place to go with out other good reasons. I have personally done some of the investigation on H3 but not all of it.
Clarification denied.
Nintendo ID: Pastalonius
Smite\LoL:Gremlidin \ WoW & Overwatch & Hots: Gremlidin#1734
3ds: 3282-2248-0453
1. 38thDoe- been networking and got a village vibe
4. Bluecyan- I believe to be village based on network as welll
10. H3Knuckles-unknown networking and just not a good feeling. Though has been I informative....so idk.
11. JPants- doing a lot of networking...could've easily killed me off by now but hasn't so gives me a village vibe
14. LostNinja- not I network with, so idk
15. Lucedes-had a mafia scare the other day, but I'm not convinced
16. MamaWolf- your village vig with a terrible shot
17. Moridin889- can't get a read on this game
18. ObiFett- has all but been confirmed to me to be village
22. Romantic Undead- quite than last game...but life could be in the way...hmmm
23. shalmelo-helpful with !phyphor, but unsure if a mafia in village clothing.
24. Sir Fabulous- networking hard, though we did have at least one mafia in there....but village for the most part.
26. ZombieHero- no read yet
I'm at work, so will vote later.
Thank you!