Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
“No that’s not Colombo, that’s Slightly Bigger Colombo”
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
TIL that my ipad thinks that Colombo is a word and Columbo isn't.
My computer too, apparently.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
Watching some episodes, I'm starting to think Columbo would have a lot more trouble solving cases if the murderers didn't insist on weaving a bunch of fantastical tales at every one of his little 'confused' questions. Seems nobody ever told these people to never talk to the cops.
that actually kind of adds to how much of an inversion of the usual cop show narrative columbo is, now that you mention it
in most police procedurals, the only people who EVER refuse to talk, ask to see a warrant, ask for a lawyer, or otherwise exercise their rights when dealing with the cops, are the culprits (and we all know why this is the case, of course)
apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
Plus all the murderers are smug bastards who are probably getting off on fooling the police initially, and then they feel like they can't just turn it off once Columbo keeps digging lest they seem more suspicious
apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying
apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying
the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.
apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying
the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.
apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying
the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.
they failed to ask one more question, clearly
In the case of the detective, this is actually literally true because if he'd asked one more question I would have had to show him my ultimate goal card instead of my decoy goal card.
But my decoy goal card cast me as a 19th century version of Michelle from 'Allo 'Allo and I was playing that to the hilt so I don't really blame him.
Also I've always wanted to hiss "Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once" in a french accent in a setting where it's both appropriate and relevant. So many bucket list moments were hit that evening.
Why do I remember this thread like it was being posted in like a few months ago
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I've noticed some anime detective shows getting mentioned and I wanted to toss in one of my personal favs, Neuro. A demon bird from hell who eats mysterious comes to earth to find the best food. Very much not the most compassionate but still enjoyable.
I was gonna write a Star Wars mystery and I was just gonna have the main character be space Columbo.
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I watched Only Murders in the Building a few months ago and gosh that show was so much better than I was expecting/fearing
I love Steve Martin/Martin Short to death but I was really worried it was going to be this very cozy, old-people-safe, closed-off-from-reality thing like those little paperback mystery novels about an old lady's cats who solve crime (this is real btw).
my second thought was that, if it wasn't some dotty old person fare, it would just be a very good but very effervescent super absurd light comedy a la Three Amigos, something you have a nice chuckle at and then move on with your life
instead, it kind of hit me where I live? it's still very funny and absurd, and it is about old people but it feels like it's about them in the present day and having to interact with the complexities of the world, and sometimes this went to places that felt fairly raw and real and made me feel stuff about things, while also having door slamming and farce and silliness
also the theme song rules.
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valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
I listened to a podcast that mentioned it figured it would be something safe my 72 year old mom and I could watch together. We really don't like the same stuff, and I don't want her to be alone all the time, so I try to do stuff with her, but I'm usually bored.
Not only did we both watch it and enjoy it, but my 26 year old daughter liked it also. It was pretty good and we're waiting for season 3.
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miscellaneousinsanitygrass grows, birds fly, sun shines,and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered Userregular
Peter Falk is a gorgeous hunk of man.
hello columbo thread here is a columbo writeup my pal wrote up
Only Murders works as a show that has characters of wildly different ages because it uses that to flavor everything rather than trying to make some larger point that THIS generation is like THIS and THAT generation is like THAT.
Also, Nathan Lane is there and they let him fuckin' cook
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valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.
Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.
see, if this is just about being a detective that's good at her job I'd be all for it
but this sounds like detective + The Gift. And I've seen it done with Psyche, and with Monk, and with the Dead Zone, and with the Mentalist, and with Hannibal, and so on and so forth ad nauseum
the point of Columbo was that he was a blue collar shmo who solved crimes because he was very good at it, and used his lowbrow persona to get people to underestimate him. he wasn't special, which is why watching him solve his cases was so special
this is very much the secret of success for the Benoit Blanc character - he's smart, but not brilliant, and he mostly gets results by being willing to look past the obvious and consider possibilities others won't because they're too racist/rich/privileged/all of the above
Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.
see, if this is just about being a detective that's good at her job I'd be all for it
but this sounds like detective + The Gift. And I've seen it done with Psyche, and with Monk, and with the Dead Zone, and with the Mentalist, and with Hannibal, and so on and so forth ad nauseum
the point of Columbo was that he was a blue collar shmo who solved crimes because he was very good at it, and used his lowbrow persona to get people to underestimate him. he wasn't special, which is why watching him solve his cases was so special
this is very much the secret of success for the Benoit Blanc character - he's smart, but not brilliant, and he mostly gets results by being willing to look past the obvious and consider possibilities others won't because they're too racist/rich/privileged/all of the above
Another thing about Columbo and Benoit Blanc is that both characters are clearly living for the thrill of detectiving; they aren't forced into it by anything, they are there because they find doing their job fun, and that helps carry the actual mysteries being fun as well.
You can obviously switch things up but I do think that the simplicity of the characters and their roles is a huge strength!
I've enjoyed Poker Face so far. It's a little bit different because the main character is on the run and stops at a new place just long enough to get involved in the crime enough to want to help before moving on.
They do play up the "she just knows when someone's lying" bit at the beginning but it's not played as a psychic or magical thing, just an intuition that steers her in the right direction.
I definitely think it's worth a try just for the writing, and it's nice to be able to watch a detective show without the heroes being cops.
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valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.
Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.
He is, and the two movies have a very strong Agatha Christie vibe to them. The first movie even features people watching Murder, She Wrote to drive it home.
Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.
Yah, I can wholeheartedly recommend both movies if you want a detective that's clever, but not inhuman (Or inhumane, cause fuck knows we have too many smart 'quirky' asshole detectives also these days)
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in most police procedurals, the only people who EVER refuse to talk, ask to see a warrant, ask for a lawyer, or otherwise exercise their rights when dealing with the cops, are the culprits (and we all know why this is the case, of course)
Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.
you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying
the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.
they failed to ask one more question, clearly
In the case of the detective, this is actually literally true because if he'd asked one more question I would have had to show him my ultimate goal card instead of my decoy goal card.
But my decoy goal card cast me as a 19th century version of Michelle from 'Allo 'Allo and I was playing that to the hilt so I don't really blame him.
Also I've always wanted to hiss "Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once" in a french accent in a setting where it's both appropriate and relevant. So many bucket list moments were hit that evening.
(Poker Face Owns)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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Because we were talking about it in the other thread.
because 2020-2023 has only been like three months
what the fuck what happened to time
I was gonna write a Star Wars mystery and I was just gonna have the main character be space Columbo.
I love Steve Martin/Martin Short to death but I was really worried it was going to be this very cozy, old-people-safe, closed-off-from-reality thing like those little paperback mystery novels about an old lady's cats who solve crime (this is real btw).
my second thought was that, if it wasn't some dotty old person fare, it would just be a very good but very effervescent super absurd light comedy a la Three Amigos, something you have a nice chuckle at and then move on with your life
instead, it kind of hit me where I live? it's still very funny and absurd, and it is about old people but it feels like it's about them in the present day and having to interact with the complexities of the world, and sometimes this went to places that felt fairly raw and real and made me feel stuff about things, while also having door slamming and farce and silliness
also the theme song rules.
Not only did we both watch it and enjoy it, but my 26 year old daughter liked it also. It was pretty good and we're waiting for season 3.
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-columbo-episodes-rich-weirdos.html
Also, Nathan Lane is there and they let him fuckin' cook
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
bit.ly/2XQM1ke
see, if this is just about being a detective that's good at her job I'd be all for it
but this sounds like detective + The Gift. And I've seen it done with Psyche, and with Monk, and with the Dead Zone, and with the Mentalist, and with Hannibal, and so on and so forth ad nauseum
the point of Columbo was that he was a blue collar shmo who solved crimes because he was very good at it, and used his lowbrow persona to get people to underestimate him. he wasn't special, which is why watching him solve his cases was so special
this is very much the secret of success for the Benoit Blanc character - he's smart, but not brilliant, and he mostly gets results by being willing to look past the obvious and consider possibilities others won't because they're too racist/rich/privileged/all of the above
Another thing about Columbo and Benoit Blanc is that both characters are clearly living for the thrill of detectiving; they aren't forced into it by anything, they are there because they find doing their job fun, and that helps carry the actual mysteries being fun as well.
You can obviously switch things up but I do think that the simplicity of the characters and their roles is a huge strength!
They do play up the "she just knows when someone's lying" bit at the beginning but it's not played as a psychic or magical thing, just an intuition that steers her in the right direction.
I definitely think it's worth a try just for the writing, and it's nice to be able to watch a detective show without the heroes being cops.
He is, and the two movies have a very strong Agatha Christie vibe to them. The first movie even features people watching Murder, She Wrote to drive it home.
Yah, I can wholeheartedly recommend both movies if you want a detective that's clever, but not inhuman (Or inhumane, cause fuck knows we have too many smart 'quirky' asshole detectives also these days)