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I tell you what it’s kind of frustrating to see someone actually make use of Jimmy Graham after we traded Max Unger to get him and then promptly wasted him for the entirety of his time in Seattle.
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Yeah he was a tad short, but there were missed calls all day so whatever.
Jimmy G didn't have to wait all damn year to actually make an impact though. I hope he's still cut after this season. He takes up way too much cap space for how many passes he's dropped this year.
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It was a pretty win. Green Bay played well. The refs didn’t lose Seattle the game they simply denied Seattle the Opportunity to try to come from behind.
It was a pretty win. Green Bay played well. The refs didn’t lose Seattle the game they simply denied Seattle the Opportunity to try to come from behind.
GB was going to get it on 4th if they went anyway. Would have been nice to see it happen though. Would have felt better
Lions Twitter is claiming that the official who spotted the ball on that first down was the same guy with both bullshit illegal hands to the face calls against Trey Flowers to hand the Packers that game early in the season.
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I tell you what it’s kind of frustrating to see someone actually make use of Jimmy Graham after we traded Max Unger to get him and then promptly wasted him for the entirety of his time in Seattle.
He sucked ass in Seattle. Dropped so many fucking passes. And he only had 447 yards this year so it’s not like he’s suddenly popping off again.
I tell you what it’s kind of frustrating to see someone actually make use of Jimmy Graham after we traded Max Unger to get him and then promptly wasted him for the entirety of his time in Seattle.
He sucked ass in Seattle. Dropped so many fucking passes. And he only had 447 yards this year so it’s not like he’s suddenly popping off again.
It was a bad trade but Seattle didn’t waste him.
He's dropped a fuckton of passes this year too, including many that were basically gift wrapped for him. Still hope he's gone after this season.
Hate when it ends on the refs. Seahawks had lots of opportunities, but it leaves such a bad taste to have such a clear fuckup.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
Hate when it ends on the refs. Seahawks had lots of opportunities, but it leaves such a bad taste to have such a clear fuckup.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
It’s not really worth getting heated over, but I watched all the replays. The side view from the marker had basically the top of his helmet at the marker when he hit the ground. Unless the ball was right in front of his face he was just short.
And even though I agree the packers probably get the first on the next down, it just irks me when games end on a ref error instead of actual play. Anyways the packers definitely earned that win. Can’t really complain too much.
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Hate when it ends on the refs. Seahawks had lots of opportunities, but it leaves such a bad taste to have such a clear fuckup.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
It’s not really worth getting heated over, but I watched all the replays. The side view from the marker had basically the top of his helmet at the marker when he hit the ground. Unless the ball was right in front of his face he was just short.
And even though I agree the packers probably get the first on the next down, it just irks me when games end on a ref error instead of actual play. Anyways the packers definitely earned that win. Can’t really complain too much.
Yup and weird stuff like ball is ruled a fumble and a packer was the one who handed the ball to the ref after the play but did not conclusively gain possession of the ball?????
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Hate when it ends on the refs. Seahawks had lots of opportunities, but it leaves such a bad taste to have such a clear fuckup.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
It’s not really worth getting heated over, but I watched all the replays. The side view from the marker had basically the top of his helmet at the marker when he hit the ground. Unless the ball was right in front of his face he was just short.
And even though I agree the packers probably get the first on the next down, it just irks me when games end on a ref error instead of actual play. Anyways the packers definitely earned that win. Can’t really complain too much.
Yup and weird stuff like ball is ruled a fumble and a packer was the one who handed the ball to the ref after the play but did not conclusively gain possession of the ball?????
In order to overturn an outcome there has to be enough evidence to reach a conclusion. The last view of the ball has no clear view of a possession and there is both a seahawk and packer on the ground within range to get possession. Since the ball is dead as soon as its possessed it doesnt matter who comes out of the scrum with it.
If it had been ruled a fumble originally the original call probably would have been packers ball at which point a review would have have the call stay. But the review itself only gets to guess towards the original result.
Its dumb that the packers lost their timeout as a result though. They were clearly right about the fumble even if a clear recovery wasnt possible to see. The incentive should be to throw the challenge flag here since it gives more time for a proper accounting of what happened. That or the booth should have asked for a review given how obviously it was a fumble so that a team doesnt have to risk a timeout
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
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Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
We just went through a whole season where PI was a chalengeable play and the field call was overturned something like 1% of the time. NFL rules suck.
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
We just went through a whole season where PI was a chalengeable play and the field call was overturned something like 1% of the time. NFL rules suck.
Well we haven’t defined what a catch is in practice yet so how could we change pass interferences in hindsight? :rotate:
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
We just went through a whole season where PI was a chalengeable play and the field call was overturned something like 1% of the time. NFL rules suck.
Well we haven’t defined what a catch is in practice yet so how could we change pass interferences in hindsight? :rotate:
Just because the reciever extended their arms and created separation it doesn't mean he pushed off and committed OPI.
Yes losing the time out was a head scratcher. They contested that they thought it was a fumble and it was a fumble so the call on the field did change although the possession of the ball did not.
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
We just went through a whole season where PI was a chalengeable play and the field call was overturned something like 1% of the time. NFL rules suck.
A lot of those non overturned calls seemed very much like the officials telling the coaches/owners to suck their dicks.
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Hate when it ends on the refs. Seahawks had lots of opportunities, but it leaves such a bad taste to have such a clear fuckup.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
It’s not really worth getting heated over, but I watched all the replays. The side view from the marker had basically the top of his helmet at the marker when he hit the ground. Unless the ball was right in front of his face he was just short.
And even though I agree the packers probably get the first on the next down, it just irks me when games end on a ref error instead of actual play. Anyways the packers definitely earned that win. Can’t really complain too much.
I saw a good view online that showed the yellow line and someone had drawn an orange line where the actual markers were. He was over.
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Jimmy G didn't have to wait all damn year to actually make an impact though. I hope he's still cut after this season. He takes up way too much cap space for how many passes he's dropped this year.
GB was going to get it on 4th if they went anyway. Would have been nice to see it happen though. Would have felt better
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Speaking of needing to get over it, holy crap Eagles fans.
He sucked ass in Seattle. Dropped so many fucking passes. And he only had 447 yards this year so it’s not like he’s suddenly popping off again.
It was a bad trade but Seattle didn’t waste him.
He's dropped a fuckton of passes this year too, including many that were basically gift wrapped for him. Still hope he's gone after this season.
Eh given the yardage at worst packers would have needed an inch or two and where they were on the field they likely would have gone for it on fourth down so I doubt it matters much. One thing to note though is the yellow line on TV is not the official yard marker so the refs were watching the actual yard markers which was much closer to the spot. It was a judgement call but given how shielded the carry was from all angles it was pretty close one way or the other.
It’s not really worth getting heated over, but I watched all the replays. The side view from the marker had basically the top of his helmet at the marker when he hit the ground. Unless the ball was right in front of his face he was just short.
And even though I agree the packers probably get the first on the next down, it just irks me when games end on a ref error instead of actual play. Anyways the packers definitely earned that win. Can’t really complain too much.
Yup and weird stuff like ball is ruled a fumble and a packer was the one who handed the ball to the ref after the play but did not conclusively gain possession of the ball?????
Yeah, for real. If the Lions maybe missed the playoffs by a single game, I'd get it. But they went 3-13. That call didn't matter in the long run.
In order to overturn an outcome there has to be enough evidence to reach a conclusion. The last view of the ball has no clear view of a possession and there is both a seahawk and packer on the ground within range to get possession. Since the ball is dead as soon as its possessed it doesnt matter who comes out of the scrum with it.
If it had been ruled a fumble originally the original call probably would have been packers ball at which point a review would have have the call stay. But the review itself only gets to guess towards the original result.
Its dumb that the packers lost their timeout as a result though. They were clearly right about the fumble even if a clear recovery wasnt possible to see. The incentive should be to throw the challenge flag here since it gives more time for a proper accounting of what happened. That or the booth should have asked for a review given how obviously it was a fumble so that a team doesnt have to risk a timeout
The official explanation was that if the result of the play doesn't change due to the review, then it was a waste of time, therefore you lose your timeout.
Which makes sense, I guess.
I understand both sides of it, but man does it seem wrong to lose a time out there when you were pretty much correct on challenging it
We just went through a whole season where PI was a chalengeable play and the field call was overturned something like 1% of the time. NFL rules suck.
Well we haven’t defined what a catch is in practice yet so how could we change pass interferences in hindsight? :rotate:
Just because the reciever extended their arms and created separation it doesn't mean he pushed off and committed OPI.
A lot of those non overturned calls seemed very much like the officials telling the coaches/owners to suck their dicks.
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I saw a good view online that showed the yellow line and someone had drawn an orange line where the actual markers were. He was over.