Once Upon A Time In...YaYa and Goose!’s Oscar Thread [YAYA WINS! PARASITE WINS!]

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited January 13
    My favorite moment in Little Women was a small one. The sisters pay a sudden, brief visit to their wealthy neighbors. They roll in like a hurricane of positivity, and bring joyous tumult into a stuffy, lifeless space. They are color and noise and warmth, and then they leave.

    And the camera is placed in such a place, the shot is held for such a length, that their absence is palpable. When they leave the room, so does the color, the noise, the warmth. It is a beautiful, aching moment - what a loving (and overtly feminine) family brings to a space, and how it feels to lose it. With a single, perfect shot.

    The whole movie is filled with that blend of empathy and craft, and Greta Gerwig is a brilliant director.

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Neither Memory nor Macavity would have been nominated anyway because they're not new for the movie

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Neither Memory nor Macavity would have been nominated anyway because they're not new for the movie

    There was some new orchestration for some of the songs that they might have been able to use as a weird way to slip through with them.

    But it looks like Beautiful Ghosts was the nominee for the Globes so I don't know if they were even trying that.

  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic Keyblade Warrior Always staring towards the distance...Registered User regular
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    Weathering With You didn't have an eligible Western release last year

    (also it's not that good)

  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited January 13
    Parasite is gonna get so many spite second place votes that it’s gonna kill.

    (Personally I think 1917 is gonna be a first place or nah situation, because old people...also it is very good, and the Oscars cannot resist very good War movies.)

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    I also think that Once Upon a Time and Parasite are going to eat each other, thanks to people splitting on wanting to give Tarantino his makeup Oscar and “No we are not old and white and racist I will vote for cool move, Parasite”.

  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    personally I can't believe how snubbed The Lighthouse was

    and also Once Upon a Time in Hollywood might be Tarantino's single weakest film, honestly

    OUATIH is by far his most Oscar-baity one though

    it literally stars Hollywood people as action heroes who save Hollywood from serial killers

    it's even more gratuitous than Argo

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  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    edited January 13
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    God I forgot Lego Movie 2 came out last year and also that it is the best animated movie of that year AND the best Lego movie

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    personally I can't believe how snubbed The Lighthouse was

    and also Once Upon a Time in Hollywood might be Tarantino's single weakest film, honestly

    OUATIH is by far his most Oscar-baity one though

    it literally stars Hollywood people as action heroes who save Hollywood from serial killers

    it's even more gratuitous than Argo

    Oh Tarantino absolutely knew what he was doing with OUATIH.

    Argo was Ben Affleck taking a wild shot in comparison.

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    personally I can't believe how snubbed The Lighthouse was

    and also Once Upon a Time in Hollywood might be Tarantino's single weakest film, honestly

    OUATIH is by far his most Oscar-baity one though

    it literally stars Hollywood people as action heroes who save Hollywood from serial killers

    it's even more gratuitous than Argo

    Oh Tarantino absolutely knew what he was doing with OUATIH.

    Argo was Ben Affleck taking a wild shot in comparison.

    Even though I liked Shape of Water, it’s kind of the same thing there with the theater subplot and the dance number.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    anime should never be rewarded

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    anime should never be rewarded

    Unless it’s Del Toro doing the Oscar bait Gundam movie that will happen in the next 20 years.

  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Promare was easily the best of that bunch and I'd honestly put it on my best picture list too, but I mean, come on, that movie had no chance in hell.

  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    the animated output of the country of japan is sometimes good

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I just read an incredibly depressing fact which is Greta Gerwig is the second woman ever to have two Best Picture nominated films

    The first is Kathryn Bigelow

    Jesus

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    here's the link for the pool! entries close Feb 8th, go go go go

    https://forms.gle/Z5HiFbCrg7uYxskD9

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    I voted. I didn’t see a bunch of them but kept my guiding principle of refusing to vote for the Joker anytime it showed up regardless of how that hurts me.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    this is one I'm hoping to lose

    I believe strongly that Joker will win Best Picture and it will crush my entire being

    actors, directors, and producers love that goddamn movie

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    Mr. G wrote: »
    this is one I'm hoping to lose

    I believe strongly that Joker will win Best Picture and it will crush my entire being

    actors, directors, and producers love that goddamn movie

    I’m hoping 1917 can put it down due old white people loving that stuff.

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    My favorite moment in Little Women was a small one. The sisters pay a sudden, brief visit to their wealthy neighbors. They roll in like a hurricane of positivity, and bring joyous tumult into a stuffy, lifeless space. They are color and noise and warmth, and then they leave.

    And the camera is placed in such a place, the shot is held for such a length, that their absence is palpable. When they leave the room, so does the color, the noise, the warmth. It is a beautiful, aching moment - what a loving (and overtly feminine) family brings to a space, and how it feels to lose it. With a single, perfect shot.

    The whole movie is filled with that blend of empathy and craft, and Greta Gerwig is a brilliant director.

    I loved that scene, and the similar earlier scene when Laurie walks the girls home from a party and the family whirlwind swoops in to take care of Meg. It's a neat trick that she pulls off that flush of emotion and yanks it away twice to emphasize the family dynamic and it works so well both times.

    My favorite scene, though, is that exchange between Amy and Laurie in Paris in her studio. The bit where she tells Laurie that she either wants to be great or nothing is just perfect. It's be easy for that to come across as overly smug or whiny (the usual path most adaptations take with Amy), but Florence delivers it in this perfectly convincing matter-of-fact way that says she's thought about it, knows it's a personal weakness, but has accepted it and is trying to make the best life she can despite her limitations, and man, that just slays me. It's just a beautiful little moment of reality and self-acceptance.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    God remember when BoRhap won best editing

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    God remember when BoRhap won best editing

    I think they just got confused that the award was for most editing.

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    I wonder if 1917 has, in total, more or less shots than that one scene in BoRhap.

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    Editing it all about clicking the scissor button the most times.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular
    I wanted to vote how I would like the results to fall, but so help me the nominations were so dire that I voted how I feel it will likely shake out.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    God I forgot Lego Movie 2 came out last year and also that it is the best animated movie of that year AND the best Lego movie

    Yeah, that's what stood out to me from the list-- that movie feels like a decade ago and it's still such a bummer that it didn't grab a foothold. Absolutely my favorite of the Lego movies I've seen and yeah, probably my favorite animated film of last year

    Primal being submitted is weird! I guess you could submit a single episode as a short film? It's a TV show, submit it to the Emmy's.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 14
    None of these movies up for editing have a single star wipe in them!

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    My favorite moment in Little Women was a small one. The sisters pay a sudden, brief visit to their wealthy neighbors. They roll in like a hurricane of positivity, and bring joyous tumult into a stuffy, lifeless space. They are color and noise and warmth, and then they leave.

    And the camera is placed in such a place, the shot is held for such a length, that their absence is palpable. When they leave the room, so does the color, the noise, the warmth. It is a beautiful, aching moment - what a loving (and overtly feminine) family brings to a space, and how it feels to lose it. With a single, perfect shot.

    The whole movie is filled with that blend of empathy and craft, and Greta Gerwig is a brilliant director.
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    I just read an incredibly depressing fact which is Greta Gerwig is the second woman ever to have two Best Picture nominated films

    The first is Kathryn Bigelow

    Jesus

    No nomination for best director though. No woman nominated for that at all, again.
    5 women ever have been nominated for best director.

    And the academy is apparently really proud that almost a third of the nominated are women.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    In light of Greta Gerwig not getting nominated for directing Little Women I was like, "fuck and they didn't even nominate her for directing Lady Bird either," but they uh, did, and then I was like, "I bet she should have fuckin' won that year too!" and then I got a look at the other nominees and that was a legitimately good year for the category, like, Jordan Peele and Guillermo del Toro are in there!

    and then I got mad that Allison Janney won instead of Laurie Metcalf again, smh

    I haven't really paid much attention to the Oscars in the past. Right not it seems like the consensus is that Greta Gerwig got snubbed for best director. I think Little Women in one of the best movies I've seen this year so my inclination is to agree, but it did get nominated for Best Picture. Generally what is the line that makes a movie Best Picture worthy, but not best director, or vice versa? I'm mostly curious in what would a director need to do for their movie to legitimately deserve a Best Picture nomination, but not a Best Director nomination.

    So this is complicated for me because I come from a theatre world. In both theatre and film directors and actors are tasked with interpreting a script, and the effect of those choices is usually how I determine how good the directing was-- I can't tell you much about shot composition, let alone how much of it belongs to directing vs cinematography, but the deliberate placement of scenes, a newer or more specific interpretation of a character (as minor incident points out above, Amy), those sort of things tend to make me think the direction is impressive

    Things get murky because the most impressive choices I found in the movie (which I loved and would probably give Best Picture to, though a lot of that is recency bias) were in how the movie jumped around the timeline, which resulted in the brilliant handling of the Amy/Laurie romance (and how it informed the Jo/Laurie relationship), as well as the parallel scenes of Beth's recovery and death. But I'd bet that in this case, those choices were made at the screenwriting stage as an interpretation of the book, rather than at the directing stage as an interpretation of the script. And Gerwig did get nominated for Adapted Screenplay. And as someone who loves film but understands directing from a theatrical perspective, I'm ill-equipped to explain why Gerwig deserves the director nom when she already has screenplay beyond "well, I liked that movie the most, so she's the best"

    Of course, directors are also often the primary decision maker on a project, so any triumph or failure of a work could potentially be attributed to them

    Another thing that often leaves me with an impression of great direction is if the director's voice comes through, if the feel and tone and message and themes of the work feel specific to them. And Little Women absolutely feels of a piece with Ladybird, so I'm inclined to think the direction succeeds.

  • SimBenSimBen Registered User regular
    I wonder if 1917 has, in total, more or less shots than that one scene in BoRhap.

    From what I understand it has two, so definitely less.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    I have made my deeply cynical picks. May we all hope that I am wrong.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    I have no easy access to AMC theaters.

    Might enter anyway for the lulz.

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    I have made my deeply cynical picks. May we all hope that I am wrong.

    Yeah I made a lot of picks for movies I really hope don't win those categories, but the Academy has burned all the faith I've given them.

  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    God I forgot Lego Movie 2 came out last year and also that it is the best animated movie of that year AND the best Lego movie

    Not to mention that means 'Catchy Song' got snubbed for Best Original Song as well.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    God I forgot Lego Movie 2 came out last year and also that it is the best animated movie of that year AND the best Lego movie

    Not to mention that means 'Catchy Song' got snubbed for Best Original Song as well.

    Super Cool tho

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Jimothy wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Best Animation Feature Rapid Reax:

    - Toy Story 4 gets nodded over Frozen 2; someone over at Disney is fuming they didn't get their 40% chance of winning this year.
    - Anime still gets the shaft on nominations; not even 2019's darling Weathering With You made the cut.
    - On the other hand; the Netflix effect seems stronger that ever this year: Two of the noms (Klaus and I Lost My Body) are exclusives(?) to the streaming network.

    32 animated features were submitted this year. Here's the full list from ANN:

    Abominable
    The Addams Family
    The Angry Birds Movie 2
    Another Day of Life
    Away
    Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
    Children of the Sea
    Dilili in Paris
    Frozen II
    Funan
    Genndy Tartakovsky's ‘Primal’ – Tales of Savagery
    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    The Last Fiction
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part
    Marona's Fantastic Tale
    Missing Link
    Ne Zha
    Okko's Inn
    Pachamama
    Promare
    Rezo
    The Secret Life of Pets 2
    Spies in Disguise
    The Swallows of Kabul
    This Magnificent Cake!
    The Tower
    Toy Story 4
    Upin & Ipin: The Lone Gibbon Kris
    Weathering With You
    White Snake

    God I forgot Lego Movie 2 came out last year and also that it is the best animated movie of that year AND the best Lego movie

    Not to mention that means 'Catchy Song' got snubbed for Best Original Song as well.

    Super Cool tho

    Anything that gets Lonely Island on a stage works too.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The winning picks are in

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    reminder these are due by Saturday!

    I've got to watch Jojo Rabbit and then I'll be set on my best picture noms, and then the true work will begin

    this awards season has been a mess for usual predictable metrics, so it's anyone's game still!

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