http://ethanhawkes.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-waylon-jennings-quote-about-garth.html
The first record of the quote being used goes back to of all places, Willie Nelson’s 70th Birthday Party in 2003, and from of all people, actor Ethan Hawke. In April of 2009, Ethan Hawke penned a feature on Kris Kristofferson for Rolling Stone. In the feature, Ethan Hawke recounts a story from 2003 where Kris Kristofferson and Toby Keith get into a verbal argument, and Kristofferson says the Waylon quote in response to Toby Keith’s demand, “None of that lefty shit out there tonight, Kris.”
Here’s the complete interchange from Rolling Stone, as dictated by Ethan Hawke:
“Up from the basement came one of country music’s brightest stars (who shall remain nameless). At that moment in time, the Star had a monster radio hit about bombing America’s enemies back into the Stone Age.
“Happy birthday,” the Star said to Willie, breezing by us. As he passed Kristofferson in one long, confident stride, out of the corner of his mouth came “None of that lefty shit out there tonight, Kris.”
“What the fuck did you just say to me?” Kris growled, stepping forward.
“You heard me,” the Star said, walking away in the darkness.
“Don’t turn your back to me, boy,” Kristofferson shouted, not giving a shit that basically the entire music industry seemed to be flanking him.
“You ever worn your country’s uniform?” Kris asked rhetorically.
“What?”
“Don’t ‘What?’ me, boy! You heard the question. You just don’t like the answer.” He paused just long enough to get a full chest of air. “I asked, ‘Have you ever served your country?’ The answer is, no, you have not. Have you ever killed another man? Huh? Have you ever taken another man’s life and then cashed the check your country gave you for doing it? No, you have not. So shut the fuck up!” I could feel his body pulsing with anger next to me. “You don’t know what the hell you are talking about!”
“Whatever,” the young Star muttered.
Kristofferson took a deep inhale and leaned against the wall, still vibrating with adrenaline. He looked over at Willie as if to say, “Don’t say a word.” Then his eyes found me. “You know what Waylon Jennings said about guys like him?” he whispered.
I shook my head.
“They’re doin’ to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fuckin’.”
brb gonna go listen to some Kris Kristofferson
That whole story has been confirmed to be fake.
Edit: Also I will absolutely say that Garth Brooks is absolutely fine. He was definitely poppy and rock oriented with his shows, but at least he was LGBT positive way before it was "cool" because his sister was a lesbian. Considering all the regressive shit in the genre, that earns you a ton of points in my book.
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I very honestly think toby keith's vacant headed bullshit was and is bad for america. Like his whole persona from the early 2000s had a negative impact on our culture re: toxic masculinity in a way that's really hard to describe without expending way more of my time going back through his catalogue and its associated contemporary history than I ever really care to. Like Garth Brooks fucked up country music by making it pop rock with a country veneer. Toby Keith played the same kind of shitty pop rock country, but also made all his songs about reveling in his own idiocy and toxic masculinity and taking pride in that ignorance.
I very honestly think toby keith's vacant headed bullshit was and is bad for america. Like his whole persona from the early 2000s had a negative impact on our culture re: toxic masculinity in a way that's really hard to describe without expending way more of my time going back through his catalogue and its associated contemporary history than I ever really care to. Like Garth Brooks fucked up country music by making it pop rock with a country veneer. Toby Keith played the same kind of shitty pop rock country, but also made all his songs about reveling in his own idiocy and toxic masculinity and taking pride in that ignorance.
I actually think Tony Keith's worst song is How Do You Like Me Now? It isn't the first or even the most memorable "revenge" song (Hi, Sk8terboi). But holy fuck it's basically utterly, completely unabashed in how he was an absolute creep to this woman in high school and reveling in this fantasy that her life is a complete ruin without him in it while he's successful now. It is mean and cruel to a whole new level while coating it in a happy upbeat tempo to disguise the utter horribleness.
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Take their stand on bended knee, whether it's on astroturf or grass, I think of those whose freedom was not free and I say, take a knee my ass.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
When I was younger and I first heard Fancy I thought "hey, that's not a country song at all!"
Take their stand on bended knee, whether it's on astroturf or grass, I think of those whose freedom was not free and I say, take a knee my ass.
The only country song I somewhat remember and still think I like is one where this dude buys a car that belonged to a kid killed in war, gets in an accident, and the soldier ghost saves him.
The only country song I somewhat remember and still think I like is one where this dude buys a car that belonged to a kid killed in war, gets in an accident, and the soldier ghost saves him.
The only country song I somewhat remember and still think I like is one where this dude buys a car that belonged to a kid killed in war, gets in an accident, and the soldier ghost saves him.
Riding with Private Malone. Decent song!
David Ball! He also did Thinkin' Problem, which was a big hit
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
The song depicts its heroine overcoming poverty to become a successful courtesan.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Take their stand on bended knee, whether it's on astroturf or grass, I think of those whose freedom was not free and I say, take a knee my ass.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
The song depicts its heroine overcoming poverty to become a successful courtesan.
That is correct. The daughter goes off to be a prostitute, leaving the mom to die alone as the baby gets taken away by the state.
She holds her head up and becomes a proper southern lady with her own plantation bought with the money of the men she seduced with her feminine wiles.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
The song depicts its heroine overcoming poverty to become a successful courtesan.
That is correct. The daughter goes off to be a prostitute, leaving the mom to die alone as the baby gets taken away by the state.
She holds her head up and becomes a proper southern lady with her own plantation bought with the money of the men she seduced with her feminine wiles.
Yeah, but that's still a horrible situation for the poor mother to be in.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Take their stand on bended knee, whether it's on astroturf or grass, I think of those whose freedom was not free and I say, take a knee my ass.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
The song depicts its heroine overcoming poverty to become a successful courtesan.
That is correct. The daughter goes off to be a prostitute, leaving the mom to die alone as the baby gets taken away by the state.
She holds her head up and becomes a proper southern lady with her own plantation bought with the money of the men she seduced with her feminine wiles.
Yeah, but that's still a horrible situation for the poor mother to be in.
Yeah. The Mom is kind of played off to be worthless. We're not really supposed to care about her dying. It's a quick line in the song and they move on from the mom and baby.
When I was younger and first heard Fancy I thought it was about a girl learning to perform. I think it's because the idea of turning out one's daughter didn't mean anything to me and they mention a dancing dress.
Boy was I wrong!
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
The song depicts its heroine overcoming poverty to become a successful courtesan.
That is correct. The daughter goes off to be a prostitute, leaving the mom to die alone as the baby gets taken away by the state.
She holds her head up and becomes a proper southern lady with her own plantation bought with the money of the men she seduced with her feminine wiles.
Yeah, but that's still a horrible situation for the poor mother to be in.
Yeah. The Mom is kind of played off to be worthless. We're not really supposed to care about her dying. It's a quick line in the song and they move on from the mom and baby.
Oh, I didn't get that impression at all. She literally seemed to be reaching for her last chance for her daughter that she perceived as much as she hated it. That's why she gave her the locket. I really liked the mom.
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That whole story has been confirmed to be fake.
Edit: Also I will absolutely say that Garth Brooks is absolutely fine. He was definitely poppy and rock oriented with his shows, but at least he was LGBT positive way before it was "cool" because his sister was a lesbian. Considering all the regressive shit in the genre, that earns you a ton of points in my book.
I actually think Tony Keith's worst song is How Do You Like Me Now? It isn't the first or even the most memorable "revenge" song (Hi, Sk8terboi). But holy fuck it's basically utterly, completely unabashed in how he was an absolute creep to this woman in high school and reveling in this fantasy that her life is a complete ruin without him in it while he's successful now. It is mean and cruel to a whole new level while coating it in a happy upbeat tempo to disguise the utter horribleness.
Boy was I wrong!
When I was younger and I first heard Fancy I thought "hey, that's not a country song at all!"
edit: apparently not
Riding with Private Malone. Decent song!
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David Ball! He also did Thinkin' Problem, which was a big hit
The music video makes it incredibly confusing by implying she's a movie and record star
I think it’s ‘I loved her first’.
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The one I'm familiar with is Butterfly Kisses
I got around to this the other day but forgot to post about it... Yeah this seems ok...
But it's really weird listening to music that isn't designed to blast your eardrums out.
So, just to make sure I get the video, the mother is basically selling her teen-something daughter off as a prostitute because she legitimately thinks it's her only chance to survive, yes?
edit: Wikipedia for the win I guess. Ew.
That is correct. The daughter goes off to be a prostitute, leaving the mom to die alone as the baby gets taken away by the state.
She holds her head up and becomes a proper southern lady with her own plantation bought with the money of the men she seduced with her feminine wiles.
Yeah, but that's still a horrible situation for the poor mother to be in.
Yeah. The Mom is kind of played off to be worthless. We're not really supposed to care about her dying. It's a quick line in the song and they move on from the mom and baby.
Oh, I didn't get that impression at all. She literally seemed to be reaching for her last chance for her daughter that she perceived as much as she hated it. That's why she gave her the locket. I really liked the mom.
I voted for take a knee, because fuck racists. But I’ve never actually heard the song.
I wanted to vote for Honkytonk Badonkadonk because I have actually head that song and I hate it so much.
He's like a male country-singing Lana Del Rey and he's great