I think this clears things up a little bit. All of the concept art is just from his version of the ninth movie. By the time the creative team that actually made nine gave their pitch Palpantine was probably always involved.
eh, i think "all" is an overstatement, that book pretty clearly had concept art from the release version of the film as well. People are just posting it less because, well, there's less to say about it.
like i dunno how much there is to glean from a collection of concept art and design (and i definitely don't think there's enough to start conspiracy theory-ing over), but i would absolutely have expected some of the book to feature palpatine
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Bloods EndBlade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered Userregular
The Kylo and Vader scene would have been so fucking good holy shit
It would have been a cool idea to have Anakin show up to Kylo first as Vader, scare the shit out of him, then go "hey as a former piece of shit to a current piece of shit... go and fix all your shit. Or die trying."
It would have been a cool idea to have Anakin show up to Kylo first as Vader, scare the shit out of him, then go "hey as a former piece of shit to a current piece of shit... go and fix all your shit. Or die trying."
It would have been a cool idea to have Anakin show up to Kylo first as Vader, scare the shit out of him, then go "hey as a former piece of shit to a current piece of shit... go and fix all your shit. Or die trying."
"Congratulations, Ben. You're just like me."
Oh man if this happened as the Vader faded away to a young wounded Anakin.
It would have been a cool idea to have Anakin show up to Kylo first as Vader, scare the shit out of him, then go "hey as a former piece of shit to a current piece of shit... go and fix all your shit. Or die trying."
"Congratulations, Ben. You're just like me."
Hmmm. Is there a Darth Vader "Cat's in the cradle" rewrite?
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This has been making the rounds. Given that Pablo's set to private now, so I can't confirm myself
As someone who always wanted him to survive but go to jail, I'd be pretty on board with this
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What we have wasn't a pitch, but is purported to be the actual script in development by the actual writers, one of whom was set to direct.
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I do enjoy that the one constant about ideas that people who were (actually involved) in production of ep 9 are that they are better than what we got on screen
I didn't like either Jurassic World's and Trevorrow was allegedly kind of a dick to Daisy Ridley when they first met, but I do like his script. It took risks where TRoS took *checks notes* absolutely zero.
I didn't like either Jurassic World's and Trevorrow was allegedly kind of a dick to Daisy Ridley when they first met, but I do like his script. It took risks where TRoS took *checks notes* absolutely zero.
I'd say it took less than zero, in that it actively undid risks the previous film took.
I didn't like either Jurassic World's and Trevorrow was allegedly kind of a dick to Daisy Ridley when they first met, but I do like his script. It took risks where TRoS took *checks notes* absolutely zero.
What are you talking about? It took the risk of being an incoherent mess.
No but seriously I would say most of the big plot elements people hate were risky. If the first thing people think when they hear your idea is “that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard” it must be a risk right?
But I would have likely left that movie going "well, that had parts I like but was a mess" whereas TROS had me actively angry walking out of the theater
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What we have wasn't a pitch, but is purported to be the actual script in development by the actual writers, one of whom was set to direct.
That's a separate thing though? That tweet is from a Lucasfilm Story Group guy, talking about an unrelated idea he had way before Trevorrow's script existed
But I would have likely left that movie going "well, that had parts I like but was a mess" whereas TROS had me actively angry walking out of the theater
Yeah. It might have done a bad job building off what Johnson left, but it at least built off it.
But I would have likely left that movie going "well, that had parts I like but was a mess" whereas TROS had me actively angry walking out of the theater
Oh, absolutely. And Trevorrow absolutely could have fucked it up in execution. I'm just in your boat.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
What we have wasn't a pitch, but is purported to be the actual script in development by the actual writers, one of whom was set to direct.
That's a separate thing though? That tweet is from a Lucasfilm Story Group guy, talking about an unrelated idea he had way before Trevorrow's script existed
The last sentence of the tweet is what I was specifically reacting to, because I assume it is a reaction to Trevorrow's script going around.
I do enjoy that the one constant about ideas that people who were (actually involved) in production of ep 9 are that they are better than what we got on screen
I'm pretty sure I could reach into a bag of scrabble tiles and slam a better script down on the table 30 Rock style.
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There are also a million ways for a movie to screw up in the stages between pitch to script to finished film. Like almost anything can sound great or awful in a pitch and then be the exact opposite because of execution.
Though still stand by Kylo getting trolled by Ghost Uncle is always a better call
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There are also a million ways for a movie to screw up in the stages between pitch to script to finished film. Like almost anything can sound great or awful in a pitch and then be the exact opposite because of execution.
Though still stand by Kylo getting trolled by Ghost Uncle is always a better call
Endgame story gets leaked: “This sounds ridiculous and stupid! There’s no way this will be good!”: Endgame turns out to be pretty good and a lot of fun.
Rise of Skywalker story gets leaked: “This sounds ridiculous and stupid! There’s no way this will be good!”: Rise of Skywalker turns out to be even worse than we feared.
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I think this clears things up a little bit. All of the concept art is just from his version of the ninth movie. By the time the creative team that actually made nine gave their pitch Palpantine was probably always involved.
like i dunno how much there is to glean from a collection of concept art and design (and i definitely don't think there's enough to start conspiracy theory-ing over), but i would absolutely have expected some of the book to feature palpatine
"Congratulations, Ben. You're just like me."
Oh man if this happened as the Vader faded away to a young wounded Anakin.
Hmmm. Is there a Darth Vader "Cat's in the cradle" rewrite?
This has been making the rounds. Given that Pablo's set to private now, so I can't confirm myself
As someone who always wanted him to survive but go to jail, I'd be pretty on board with this
I'd say it took less than zero, in that it actively undid risks the previous film took.
We're in negative risks here people!
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What are you talking about? It took the risk of being an incoherent mess.
No but seriously I would say most of the big plot elements people hate were risky. If the first thing people think when they hear your idea is “that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard” it must be a risk right?
But I would have likely left that movie going "well, that had parts I like but was a mess" whereas TROS had me actively angry walking out of the theater
That's a separate thing though? That tweet is from a Lucasfilm Story Group guy, talking about an unrelated idea he had way before Trevorrow's script existed
Yeah. It might have done a bad job building off what Johnson left, but it at least built off it.
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i'd like that
Oh, absolutely. And Trevorrow absolutely could have fucked it up in execution. I'm just in your boat.
The last sentence of the tweet is what I was specifically reacting to, because I assume it is a reaction to Trevorrow's script going around.
I'm pretty sure I could reach into a bag of scrabble tiles and slam a better script down on the table 30 Rock style.
Though still stand by Kylo getting trolled by Ghost Uncle is always a better call
Endgame story gets leaked: “This sounds ridiculous and stupid! There’s no way this will be good!”: Endgame turns out to be pretty good and a lot of fun.
Rise of Skywalker story gets leaked: “This sounds ridiculous and stupid! There’s no way this will be good!”: Rise of Skywalker turns out to be even worse than we feared.
Indeed, lots can change.