Yeah, about the only thing that hasn't aged well for Terminator is the end sequence (effects-wise), but there's zero reason to skip over it, it's a great film. And when you go over to T2, make sure to watch the Director's Cut which re-adds scenes that are honestly appalling that they weren't left in the original film.
They're good scenes, not like what was removed from Endgame, but I can see the reasoning for removing them. It's not a film that you can say is lacking in any area to begin with.
I dunno, they feel pretty essential to me, and some of the effects work is phenomenal.
The cut scenes include Sarah dreaming about Kyle, which really drives home the mega-stress she's under and just how far out there the situation has pushed her; it also establishes that the Terminator showing up is a literal nightmare for her, which is why she almost completely locks up when Arnie makes his first appearance to her. The other big one is resetting the Terminator to adaptive mode, which is, frankly, essential in explaining why he suddenly shifts from from stiff and wooden to using slang and emotions on top of John getting to show a bit of that leadership he's supposed to save the world with (by refuting his mother trying to destroy the brain chip and insisting they need the Terminator).
In a movie already a couple hours long, the addition of that material has no meaningful impact on the flow and definitely fill in important chunks of story.
Fair point, I forgot about that chip scene being in the extended cut alone.
Terminator and T2 are completely different genres of movies, it's not really fair to compare them.
You say that, but Alien is better than Aliens.
Different genres!
Yes. One is Sci-fi Horror and the other is Sci-fi Horror.
One is Sci-Fi horror and the other is Sci-Fi action.
With an isolation theme and a horde of faceless adversaries, Aliens is closer to a zombie movie than a war movie. Sci-fi Horror.
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My problem with 12 Monkeys is not the ending, but the fact that at the end of the day, it's still directed by Terry Gilliam. Which just ... I just don't like his style.
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My problem with 12 Monkeys is not the ending, but the fact that at the end of the day, it's still directed by Terry Gilliam. Which just ... I just don't like his style.
I can't picture the future scenes being as visually striking as they were without his influence. That was trademark Gilliam.
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Thinking more about Parasite, I'm glad i knew the bare minimum going in. Although i made the mistake of reading the back cover, which spoiled the thing that drives the back half of the movie.
So besides the twist, i was not prepared for how funny it was going to be. Granted it’s a pretty dark comedy but up until the last 15 minutes it’s still a comedy.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Here's one I didn't know anything about. It's certainly not a very canonical American movie: the first film by Greg Mottola (probably best known for directing Superbad), about a suburban family taking a trip into the city to pursue the possibility that a daughter's husband may be cheating on her. It's an about town road-trip that takes detours among many strangers and recurring characters, all represented by a bucket-load of talented character actors.
It's one of those loose and amusing 90's films, more concerned with character than circumstance. The sort of thing that would go over well at Sundance before mumblecore took off, nestled between but probably a little more naturalistic than films by people like Hal Hartley or Whit Stillman. It's a little precious, visually plain, implausibly white for being set in New York, and a little too self aware in its monologuing; but it's well performed and dryly funny at times.
It's fine. When you think it might suck it finds something sincere or enjoyable, when you think it might be headed somewhere, it pumps the breaks---and yet it's entirely too low key for its inconsistencies to be frustrating.
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The Farewell is amazing, and has one of the best endings in a long time.
My problem with 12 Monkeys is not the ending, but the fact that at the end of the day, it's still directed by Terry Gilliam. Which just ... I just don't like his style.
It's funny (well, not particularly): I love 12 Monkeys and Brazil is one of my favourite films, but I find many of Gilliam's other films downright obnoxious. There's some material that can keep his worst excesses in check, and then his brand of anarchy works well for me, but if he's given something that's very much Terry Gilliam material, that doesn't keep his tendencies in check at least somewhat, it feels like you're locked in with an old man who also thinks he's a hyperactive three-year-old *and* the funniest dude in the room.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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I love Jim Jarmusch's movies, and loved the first 1/3 of The Dead Don't Die, especially the subversions, but then it gets needlessly bleak for no good reason. There's a great setup, but no punchline.
"You read the script?"
"Jim gave it to me, yeah."
"I only had parts."
I thought Dead Don't Die was ok but I wanted to like it way more. It had those little weird 4th wall things that you guys mention and stuff and I was expecting it to build on that more or go somewhere crazier, but instead it just felt like Jarmusch realized that zombies could be metaphors for consumers or society or whatever and put a little of that in. And again I was waiting for more because zombie movies have already been doing that kinda of stuff for as long as they've been around so I guess I'm not sure what I was supposed to get out of this one.
I quite liked Limits of Control, and Ghost Dog is great and I loved Paterson. I've been meaning to watch Only Lovers Left Alive and Broken Flowers as well; does anyone know if there's any other Jarmusch that I need to see?
I quite liked Limits of Control, and Ghost Dog is great and I loved Paterson. I've been meaning to watch Only Lovers Left Alive and Broken Flowers as well; does anyone know if there's any other Jarmusch that I need to see?
I've also heard good things about Down by Law, though my impression is it might be the kind of film that's best watched when you're in your teens or early twenties.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I quite liked Limits of Control, and Ghost Dog is great and I loved Paterson. I've been meaning to watch Only Lovers Left Alive and Broken Flowers as well; does anyone know if there's any other Jarmusch that I need to see?
I think The Dead Don't Die is his worst film (but still basically OK). All his movies are better than that. So I'd say they're all worth watching.
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I quite liked Limits of Control, and Ghost Dog is great and I loved Paterson. I've been meaning to watch Only Lovers Left Alive and Broken Flowers as well; does anyone know if there's any other Jarmusch that I need to see?
I think The Dead Don't Die is his worst film (but still basically OK). All his movies are better than that. So I'd say they're all worth watching.
I enjoyed the first half, which is more than I can say than some of films that had nothing of interest to me(like Down By Law).
I just don't know what TDDD was trying to be. Horror? Satire? Comedy? Parody? It's all over the place, and too disjointed, and sadly, it has elements of being good at all of them. The fourth wall breaks are especially weird, since it's never been his M.O. .
"What's that?"
"That's the theme song."
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I dunno, the movie just worked for me.
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Those rat bastards at Disney are at it again, trying to goad children into tormenting their parents until they subscribe to Disney+.
I wonder if those releases will be at the same time worldwide. I've got a subscription to Disney+ for the series, though it's only launching this weekend, and it would be nice to catch Onward on there.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
There were parts that made me sad, obviously, because it's about Nazis, but the parts that made me tear up were the life-affirming bits that made me think that things were going to be OK and that the world still has good in it
Yeah, about the only thing that hasn't aged well for Terminator is the end sequence (effects-wise), but there's zero reason to skip over it, it's a great film. And when you go over to T2, make sure to watch the Director's Cut which re-adds scenes that are honestly appalling that they weren't left in the original film.
They're good scenes, not like what was removed from Endgame, but I can see the reasoning for removing them. It's not a film that you can say is lacking in any area to begin with.
I dunno, they feel pretty essential to me, and some of the effects work is phenomenal.
The cut scenes include Sarah dreaming about Kyle, which really drives home the mega-stress she's under and just how far out there the situation has pushed her; it also establishes that the Terminator showing up is a literal nightmare for her, which is why she almost completely locks up when Arnie makes his first appearance to her. The other big one is resetting the Terminator to adaptive mode, which is, frankly, essential in explaining why he suddenly shifts from from stiff and wooden to using slang and emotions on top of John getting to show a bit of that leadership he's supposed to save the world with (by refuting his mother trying to destroy the brain chip and insisting they need the Terminator).
In a movie already a couple hours long, the addition of that material has no meaningful impact on the flow and definitely fill in important chunks of story.
The latter including one of the finest practical effects shots in the history of cinema.
Things You Can Do When One of Your Actors Has a Twin.
(see also, the security guard at the asylum.)
T2
Also the young Sarah in the nuclear explosion nightmare is played by her twin. She had not gone through the training regimen that made Linda so ripped, so she looked softer and more naive/innocent.
Yeah, about the only thing that hasn't aged well for Terminator is the end sequence (effects-wise), but there's zero reason to skip over it, it's a great film. And when you go over to T2, make sure to watch the Director's Cut which re-adds scenes that are honestly appalling that they weren't left in the original film.
They're good scenes, not like what was removed from Endgame, but I can see the reasoning for removing them. It's not a film that you can say is lacking in any area to begin with.
I dunno, they feel pretty essential to me, and some of the effects work is phenomenal.
The cut scenes include Sarah dreaming about Kyle, which really drives home the mega-stress she's under and just how far out there the situation has pushed her; it also establishes that the Terminator showing up is a literal nightmare for her, which is why she almost completely locks up when Arnie makes his first appearance to her. The other big one is resetting the Terminator to adaptive mode, which is, frankly, essential in explaining why he suddenly shifts from from stiff and wooden to using slang and emotions on top of John getting to show a bit of that leadership he's supposed to save the world with (by refuting his mother trying to destroy the brain chip and insisting they need the Terminator).
In a movie already a couple hours long, the addition of that material has no meaningful impact on the flow and definitely fill in important chunks of story.
The latter including one of the finest practical effects shots in the history of cinema.
Things You Can Do When One of Your Actors Has a Twin.
(see also, the security guard at the asylum.)
T2
Also the young Sarah in the nuclear explosion nightmare is played by her twin. She had not gone through the training regimen that made Linda so ripped, so she looked softer and more naive/innocent.
Holy shit
[Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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There were parts that made me sad, obviously, because it's about Nazis, but the parts that made me tear up were the life-affirming bits that made me think that things were going to be OK and that the world still has good in it
I picked it up because Waititi was directing and I'd heard it was a dark comedy, so I was thinking more like We Live in the Shadows. I thought I had a grip on the "dark" and the "comedy" parts and then hooooooly fuck it dropped a thermonuclear gutpunch right in the middle of one of those life-affirming bits. That movie went from comedy to "destroy you" faster than pretty much anything else I've ever seen, then somehow pulls it back to positive in the end instead of leaving you a wreck.
I was not ready for that movie when I watched it, but it's so good.
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Jumanji: The Next Level is at best a timekiller, but it's much more disappointing than I would have thought a direct sequel would have been, this felt more like the fourth movie in a franchise as opposed to the second. The only saving grace in the movie is Jack Black trying to carry the film on his shoulders (and to a smaller degree Kevin Hart), but Black really earned some legit respect by trying as best he can to save the film.
This time everyone gets brought back into the game because they want to find their friend, the nerdy guy from the first movie. He wanted to feel special again after real life didn't really work out after a year at college, but then you add Frank Reynolds and Detective Murtaugh and Awkwafina into the whole thing and it just becomes slow and bloated and just not as fun as the first. It's probably happened before in like Game Plan or Tooth Fairy or something but The Rock is just plain annoying as he tried to be DeVito, as does everyone who tries to copy DeVito. And the whole old people in a game schtick got old five minutes in, but they just. keep. hammering it.
Add to it some bad greenscreen for an adventure scene on multiple bridges, some blatantly poor ADR of last second quips, about 40 minutes of filler for a nearly 2 hour movie, and the actual real world stuff is just boring compared to the first one that at least had the excuse of being character set up.
I really liked the 2017 movie, it was legit fun and adventurous, but now the franchise just needs to stop. But it still made oodles of money so it won't. Welcome to the Jungle.
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Holy shit
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Fair point, I forgot about that chip scene being in the extended cut alone.
With an isolation theme and a horde of faceless adversaries, Aliens is closer to a zombie movie than a war movie. Sci-fi Horror.
It's army guys fighting alien monsters with big guns and big attitudes.
The movie has ripley fighting the alien queen in fiticuffs with a giant robot saying "Get away from her you bitch"
It's Action!
Look, call them whatever you want. Just get me the #buttholecut of both.
I can't picture the future scenes being as visually striking as they were without his influence. That was trademark Gilliam.
Black Death.
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Bruce and the audience promptly forget when he gets to the past, but ehhh.
Cabin Fever. And the remake of The Crazies was okay.
28 Days/Weeks Later.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
The twist is that
The whole "12 monkeys" evidence they have is just a huge red herring.
The way the movie has it set up you think that maybe he just fails to stop the apocalypse but no, he is the indirect cause of it.
The moral of the whole thing is that you can't change the past but you can change the future.
Here's one I didn't know anything about. It's certainly not a very canonical American movie: the first film by Greg Mottola (probably best known for directing Superbad), about a suburban family taking a trip into the city to pursue the possibility that a daughter's husband may be cheating on her. It's an about town road-trip that takes detours among many strangers and recurring characters, all represented by a bucket-load of talented character actors.
It's one of those loose and amusing 90's films, more concerned with character than circumstance. The sort of thing that would go over well at Sundance before mumblecore took off, nestled between but probably a little more naturalistic than films by people like Hal Hartley or Whit Stillman. It's a little precious, visually plain, implausibly white for being set in New York, and a little too self aware in its monologuing; but it's well performed and dryly funny at times.
It's fine. When you think it might suck it finds something sincere or enjoyable, when you think it might be headed somewhere, it pumps the breaks---and yet it's entirely too low key for its inconsistencies to be frustrating.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
There absolutely is a punchline
What an asshole"
Stranger Than Paradise and Mystery Train.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I enjoyed the first half, which is more than I can say than some of films that had nothing of interest to me(like Down By Law).
I just don't know what TDDD was trying to be. Horror? Satire? Comedy? Parody? It's all over the place, and too disjointed, and sadly, it has elements of being good at all of them. The fourth wall breaks are especially weird, since it's never been his M.O. .
"What's that?"
"That's the theme song."
Pixar's Onward comes to Disney+ on April 3, despite just opening in theaters on March 6th.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
This movie made me cry. If you lost a parent as a kid, be prepared for tears.
tissues.
Yep
But, like, happy tissues
No wait
JoJo Rabbit was, to me, a very powerful film
There were parts that made me sad, obviously, because it's about Nazis, but the parts that made me tear up were the life-affirming bits that made me think that things were going to be OK and that the world still has good in it
Or lost a parent as an adult. The whole "fourth memory" bit wrecked me, and I wound up having a good cry in the car afterwards.
You son of a bitch.
Also looks very similar to Tom Holland's character in that spy pigeon novie.
T2
Holy shit
I picked it up because Waititi was directing and I'd heard it was a dark comedy, so I was thinking more like We Live in the Shadows. I thought I had a grip on the "dark" and the "comedy" parts and then hooooooly fuck it dropped a thermonuclear gutpunch right in the middle of one of those life-affirming bits. That movie went from comedy to "destroy you" faster than pretty much anything else I've ever seen, then somehow pulls it back to positive in the end instead of leaving you a wreck.
I was not ready for that movie when I watched it, but it's so good.
This time everyone gets brought back into the game because they want to find their friend, the nerdy guy from the first movie. He wanted to feel special again after real life didn't really work out after a year at college, but then you add Frank Reynolds and Detective Murtaugh and Awkwafina into the whole thing and it just becomes slow and bloated and just not as fun as the first. It's probably happened before in like Game Plan or Tooth Fairy or something but The Rock is just plain annoying as he tried to be DeVito, as does everyone who tries to copy DeVito. And the whole old people in a game schtick got old five minutes in, but they just. keep. hammering it.
Add to it some bad greenscreen for an adventure scene on multiple bridges, some blatantly poor ADR of last second quips, about 40 minutes of filler for a nearly 2 hour movie, and the actual real world stuff is just boring compared to the first one that at least had the excuse of being character set up.
I really liked the 2017 movie, it was legit fun and adventurous, but now the franchise just needs to stop. But it still made oodles of money so it won't. Welcome to the Jungle.