How do you Ferber train a kid who isn't crying but who will not sleep in her crib
Do we just exit the room to force start it?
edit: went with that, when placed into bed she just wanted to play and stay awake.
we might need to rebuild the crib though.
Don't leave your screwdrivers in the crib next time.
daddy might need them tomorrow morning, I've got OJ but I'll need to go get a bottle of Cuervo
We've started to move our 3 year old toward a toddler bed. First a pillow and a blanket about 6 months ago when we stopped using a sleep sack. Now she has a little cot that she's slept on before when visiting family that she gets to use during nap time (when we're guaranteed to be awake to monitor).
Once we build good behaviors doing that it'll be time to convert the crib over to a bed and see how weird shit gets.
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We went straight from a crib to a bed, no fiddling with crib conversion kits. We got a railing to stop the child falling out of bed at night but she only needed it about 3 months.
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How do you Ferber train a kid who isn't crying but who will not sleep in her crib
Do we just exit the room to force start it?
edit: went with that, when placed into bed she just wanted to play and stay awake.
we might need to rebuild the crib though.
So, iirc, Ferber training you aren't supposed to be in the room for it anyways.
But also, Sapling is sleep trained, and a lot of times will sit in the crib and talk to herself for a while. Usually she'll fall asleep after a while, so times she gets pretty loud and we'll go back and tell her that its bed/nap time.
Edit: also, when did everyone else switch from using a crib? Sapling is almost 3 and still in a crib. It has a conversion kit that it came with, but I think the plan was to switch straight to a bed, but I'm not sure how long most people wait.
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We went straight from a crib to a bed, no fiddling with crib conversion kits. We got a railing to stop the child falling out of bed at night but she only needed it about 3 months.
We did a toddler bed for a little while around the time the kiddo was 18 months. But she's always been a huge kid, and she was able to stand well over the top of the rail by that point. Switched her to a full bed a little after 2 since we had moved anyway and no sense rebuilding it as a toddler bed if we were going to switch it again shortly.
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We got this big thing that went from crib height to bed height. Front side then eventually comes off so she was in that until at least 4 or 5.
So yeah probably around 3 we took the front of and put in one of those mesh guards that just hook under the matress. She could get out by herself sitting up, no real chance of her falling out of bed though.
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Nurses in masks.
Hoooooly shit, I have never seen my poor daughter so scared. And I could barely console her because I couldn’t take off my mask. If you have a vaccination visit coming up for a baby, I would highly recommend doing something to acclimate them to the sight of lots of people in masks.
We went straight from a crib to a bed, no fiddling with crib conversion kits. We got a railing to stop the child falling out of bed at night but she only needed it about 3 months.
We did a toddler bed for a little while around the time the kiddo was 18 months. But she's always been a huge kid, and she was able to stand well over the top of the rail by that point. Switched her to a full bed a little after 2 since we had moved anyway and no sense rebuilding it as a toddler bed if we were going to switch it again shortly.
We switched ours to the toddler bed (conversion kit) at 3, which has the 3 crib sides and then a rail that only goes halfway across... so they can get out but won't roll out.
Honestly for us the reason to not go full bed is just more about space (we still have our 3.4-yr old twins in the same room until we move in a few months)
For my oldest we swapped to a toddler conversion the first time they demonstrated they could get out of the crib, which was a little after 2. Didn't get them into a real bed until 4, mainly out of being a broke college student.
We switched to bed from crib at 2 because she climbed over and fell out so we figured it would be safer for her to fall the shorter distance from the mattress to the floor than over the railing again.
We switched to bed from crib at 2 because she climbed over and fell out so we figured it would be safer for her to fall the shorter distance from the mattress to the floor than over the railing again.
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we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
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we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
We try and not vary the sleep times by more than 30 minutes for one off occurrence, and for initial steps of ongoing changes. So if she misses a nap lets say, or is especially tired, we might go to bed 30 minutes earlier (but no more). Or if she gets up late from her last nap we might put her down 30 minutes later. If she is consistently tired every night, we might start putting her to bed 30 minutes earlier (on average) every night for a while. If she is still tired after a few weeks, then maybe we consider another 30 minutes earlier.
Seems to work ok. I've heard suggestions all over the map though, so who knows. The only thing that seems to make the most sense to me, and has helped the most for our kiddo, is consistency. Same thing, every night, as much as possible.
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we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
Ask her? When our kids are super active and need that early bedtime, we'll ask them and get the head on the shoulder "oh yes please".
She has never voluntarily slept or gone to bed (she’s 8 now). For the first 5 years of her life (because her brother arrived when she was 3 and isn’t much better) I survived on 3-4 hours of sleep a night. She completely gave up naps at 13 months, too.
we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
Ask her? When our kids are super active and need that early bedtime, we'll ask them and get the head on the shoulder "oh yes please".
It is so bizarre to me that a kid would actually admit to being tired and agree to go to bed. Like seriously.
She has never voluntarily slept or gone to bed (she’s 8 now). For the first 5 years of her life (because her brother arrived when she was 3 and isn’t much better) I survived on 3-4 hours of sleep a night. She completely gave up naps at 13 months, too.
we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
Ask her? When our kids are super active and need that early bedtime, we'll ask them and get the head on the shoulder "oh yes please".
It is so bizarre to me that a kid would actually admit to being tired and agree to go to bed. Like seriously.
yeah, same. Daughter was so anti-sleep that if you mentioned she looked sleepy or might be falling asleep she'd just aggressively fight her way through exhaustion and be a nightmare for a couple more hours. Early bedtime was not a thing that existed in our house. Not in a quarter century can I think of a time when any of the three of them would go to bed early.
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Burpette used to just announce "bed" and stop whatever she was doing to go to bed. It was great.
She's less good now. Getting a nap out of her can be tricky but she's an absolute shit if she goes more than 3 days without an afternoon nap.
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She has never voluntarily slept or gone to bed (she’s 8 now). For the first 5 years of her life (because her brother arrived when she was 3 and isn’t much better) I survived on 3-4 hours of sleep a night. She completely gave up naps at 13 months, too.
we've had some awesome success with sleep training this last week, I need to do a proper post
a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
Ask her? When our kids are super active and need that early bedtime, we'll ask them and get the head on the shoulder "oh yes please".
It is so bizarre to me that a kid would actually admit to being tired and agree to go to bed. Like seriously.
It's only happened a few times on our side too, but it helps in a few ways:
1. It gives them a choice. People like having choices
2. If they say no, you can say "Ok, but no crazy time" and there's a kind of implicit contract there. Don't ask my why it helps, but it does.
3. It opens the door in the future for them to say they're tired.
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When my daughter asks to go to bed, I know she is sick. That's the only time it happens.
My daughter says she wants to go chill on her bed when she actually wants to find the kitten and lock him in the bedroom with her.
My sons aren't terrible at going to bed, but, they have to be kept on a strict schedule and do everything in order and regularly. They still go insane in the bath and for like 5 minutes faster though, which is exhausting. And then wake up at exactly 6:35 to 6:40.
The always waking up at the same time thing led to a startling piece of advice from our pediatrician, if you want the kid to sleep longer put them to bed earlier.
Obviously doesn't work one they're old enough but for our baby it was a game changer.
Anyone done any fishing with little kids? My now 4 year old was interested in it last summer when we are on vacation. Any good equipment or ideas for how to do it without someone losing an eye?
Anyone done any fishing with little kids? My now 4 year old was interested in it last summer when we are on vacation. Any good equipment or ideas for how to do it without someone losing an eye?
I'm mostly thinking something off a dock, etc.
I did this but at age 4-5 none of ours really had the patience to actually fish. We got a kid's pole from Walmart with a weight, and some colorful fake fish. Basically it's teaching them how to cast and also guaranteeing you will not catch anything, because of all the splashing.
Ripley has secured her tantrum skills at 2.5 years old. If she's told no or asked not to do something she melts to the ground, typically face down, and cries.
Last night she did it while we were making dinner because we weren't holding her.
I laughed so hard when she just like melted into this little puddle of toddler when me and my wife were standing two feet from her in the kitchen.
Anyone done any fishing with little kids? My now 4 year old was interested in it last summer when we are on vacation. Any good equipment or ideas for how to do it without someone losing an eye?
I'm mostly thinking something off a dock, etc.
If you live near coastal waters where bluefish reside, August through early September is when that years babies (Snappers) move out of the creeks where they spawned and basically frenzy feed.
They're tiny, will gladly attack tiny minnow lures, poppers, whatever and are very fun to fight on light tackle. Perfect for little kids.
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Anyone done any fishing with little kids? My now 4 year old was interested in it last summer when we are on vacation. Any good equipment or ideas for how to do it without someone losing an eye?
I'm mostly thinking something off a dock, etc.
If you live near coastal waters where bluefish reside, August through early September is when that years babies (Snappers) move out of the creeks where they spawned and basically frenzy feed.
They're tiny, will gladly attack tiny minnow lures, poppers, whatever and are very fun to fight on light tackle. Perfect for little kids.
I live in Vancouver, BC. Not sure if we have those type of fish here.
Anyone done any fishing with little kids? My now 4 year old was interested in it last summer when we are on vacation. Any good equipment or ideas for how to do it without someone losing an eye?
Couple of years ago we went on a camping trip with some friends, and someone brought kids fishing poles, and handed one to my eldest kid, who was 4 at the time.
He proceeds to catch a fish, gets really excited, and then freaked out and got sad the rest of the evening when he realized he had killed the fish.
My 3-year-old has started jogging with me in the morning.
By "with me" I actually mean "running quite ahead of me, and then stopping to turn around and mock-pant at me".
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Yup.
Just encountered another toddler question that nothing in my life has prepared me to answer.
She walked up to our pet kingsnake, looked at him, looked at me, and said
"Where's the tail?"
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Yup.
Just encountered another toddler question that nothing in my life has prepared me to answer.
She walked up to our pet kingsnake, looked at him, looked at me, and said
"Where's the tail?"
Time to look at animal skeletons!
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Yup.
Just encountered another toddler question that nothing in my life has prepared me to answer.
She walked up to our pet kingsnake, looked at him, looked at me, and said
"Where's the tail?"
Time to look at animal skeletons!
Yeah! This actually has an answer, it's time to :whistle: learn :whistle:
Well a near nightmare situation happened yesterday that my kids just told me about. My kids are 7 and 5 (toddler was inside thankfully) and were hanging out with the neighbor kid (who is 6). Apparently he went and got "his" real gun and showed it to both of my kids. I don't know if it was actually real or if it was a BB gun or if it was loaded. My kids told me that he got it from a hook so I don't know...
Now I have to have this super awkward conversation with him about it but I'd rather be safe and make sure that either it was fake or that he knows that his 6 year old is able to reach his gun and maybe he should lock it up.
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daddy might need them tomorrow morning, I've got OJ but I'll need to go get a bottle of Cuervo
We've started to move our 3 year old toward a toddler bed. First a pillow and a blanket about 6 months ago when we stopped using a sleep sack. Now she has a little cot that she's slept on before when visiting family that she gets to use during nap time (when we're guaranteed to be awake to monitor).
Once we build good behaviors doing that it'll be time to convert the crib over to a bed and see how weird shit gets.
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So, iirc, Ferber training you aren't supposed to be in the room for it anyways.
But also, Sapling is sleep trained, and a lot of times will sit in the crib and talk to herself for a while. Usually she'll fall asleep after a while, so times she gets pretty loud and we'll go back and tell her that its bed/nap time.
Edit: also, when did everyone else switch from using a crib? Sapling is almost 3 and still in a crib. It has a conversion kit that it came with, but I think the plan was to switch straight to a bed, but I'm not sure how long most people wait.
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We did a toddler bed for a little while around the time the kiddo was 18 months. But she's always been a huge kid, and she was able to stand well over the top of the rail by that point. Switched her to a full bed a little after 2 since we had moved anyway and no sense rebuilding it as a toddler bed if we were going to switch it again shortly.
So yeah probably around 3 we took the front of and put in one of those mesh guards that just hook under the matress. She could get out by herself sitting up, no real chance of her falling out of bed though.
Nurses in masks.
Hoooooly shit, I have never seen my poor daughter so scared. And I could barely console her because I couldn’t take off my mask. If you have a vaccination visit coming up for a baby, I would highly recommend doing something to acclimate them to the sight of lots of people in masks.
We switched ours to the toddler bed (conversion kit) at 3, which has the 3 crib sides and then a rail that only goes halfway across... so they can get out but won't roll out.
Honestly for us the reason to not go full bed is just more about space (we still have our 3.4-yr old twins in the same room until we move in a few months)
That was our litmus test both times
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a quick question though: if we tried a 7pm bedtime and she was still playful and not tired, but an 8pm bedtime worked great. today, though, she's run herself ragged in the summer heat and she's already tired.
Move up bedtime to 7 or stick with the 8pm that's been working?
We try and not vary the sleep times by more than 30 minutes for one off occurrence, and for initial steps of ongoing changes. So if she misses a nap lets say, or is especially tired, we might go to bed 30 minutes earlier (but no more). Or if she gets up late from her last nap we might put her down 30 minutes later. If she is consistently tired every night, we might start putting her to bed 30 minutes earlier (on average) every night for a while. If she is still tired after a few weeks, then maybe we consider another 30 minutes earlier.
Seems to work ok. I've heard suggestions all over the map though, so who knows. The only thing that seems to make the most sense to me, and has helped the most for our kiddo, is consistency. Same thing, every night, as much as possible.
Ask her? When our kids are super active and need that early bedtime, we'll ask them and get the head on the shoulder "oh yes please".
She has never voluntarily slept or gone to bed (she’s 8 now). For the first 5 years of her life (because her brother arrived when she was 3 and isn’t much better) I survived on 3-4 hours of sleep a night. She completely gave up naps at 13 months, too.
It is so bizarre to me that a kid would actually admit to being tired and agree to go to bed. Like seriously.
yeah, same. Daughter was so anti-sleep that if you mentioned she looked sleepy or might be falling asleep she'd just aggressively fight her way through exhaustion and be a nightmare for a couple more hours. Early bedtime was not a thing that existed in our house. Not in a quarter century can I think of a time when any of the three of them would go to bed early.
She's less good now. Getting a nap out of her can be tricky but she's an absolute shit if she goes more than 3 days without an afternoon nap.
It's only happened a few times on our side too, but it helps in a few ways:
1. It gives them a choice. People like having choices
2. If they say no, you can say "Ok, but no crazy time" and there's a kind of implicit contract there. Don't ask my why it helps, but it does.
3. It opens the door in the future for them to say they're tired.
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My daughter says she wants to go chill on her bed when she actually wants to find the kitten and lock him in the bedroom with her.
My sons aren't terrible at going to bed, but, they have to be kept on a strict schedule and do everything in order and regularly. They still go insane in the bath and for like 5 minutes faster though, which is exhausting. And then wake up at exactly 6:35 to 6:40.
Obviously doesn't work one they're old enough but for our baby it was a game changer.
I'm mostly thinking something off a dock, etc.
I did this but at age 4-5 none of ours really had the patience to actually fish. We got a kid's pole from Walmart with a weight, and some colorful fake fish. Basically it's teaching them how to cast and also guaranteeing you will not catch anything, because of all the splashing.
Last night she did it while we were making dinner because we weren't holding her.
I laughed so hard when she just like melted into this little puddle of toddler when me and my wife were standing two feet from her in the kitchen.
If you live near coastal waters where bluefish reside, August through early September is when that years babies (Snappers) move out of the creeks where they spawned and basically frenzy feed.
They're tiny, will gladly attack tiny minnow lures, poppers, whatever and are very fun to fight on light tackle. Perfect for little kids.
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I live in Vancouver, BC. Not sure if we have those type of fish here.
Small stream, jam jar, happiness.
He proceeds to catch a fish, gets really excited, and then freaked out and got sad the rest of the evening when he realized he had killed the fish.
Day 5 of Ferver method and this is the first longer than 5min crying we've had. Makes no sense, why now.
By "with me" I actually mean "running quite ahead of me, and then stopping to turn around and mock-pant at me".
Turd.
Because at first it was a fun game, but now they are realizing this is the new normal, and they don't like it?
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Just encountered another toddler question that nothing in my life has prepared me to answer.
She walked up to our pet kingsnake, looked at him, looked at me, and said
"Where's the tail?"
Time to look at animal skeletons!
Yeah! This actually has an answer, it's time to :whistle: learn :whistle:
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Now I have to have this super awkward conversation with him about it but I'd rather be safe and make sure that either it was fake or that he knows that his 6 year old is able to reach his gun and maybe he should lock it up.