The only thing I see anyone complaining about are some of the redemptions but eh. I think most of them were decent to good.
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
The only thing I see anyone complaining about are some of the redemptions but eh. I think most of them were decent to good.
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
I don't think her actions are all that bad for her character.
This show would have been alright with the abusive, manipulative, nightmarish parent, who the leads spend the whole thing trying to get her influence out of their lives, wasn't redeemed.
Like that, and that the only NB character was pretty much an evil mercenary, and wasn't redeemed.
The only thing I see anyone complaining about are some of the redemptions but eh. I think most of them were decent to good.
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
I don't think her actions are all that bad for her character.
This show would have been alright with the abusive, manipulative, nightmarish parent, who the leads spend the whole thing trying to get her influence out of their lives, wasn't redeemed.
Like that, and that the only NB character was pretty much an evil mercenary, and wasn't redeemed.
Seems like a stretch to call DT evil, even with their sadistic streak--a well-written chaotic neutral. Hell, breaking Catra probably gained them some Positive Karma.
It's... okay, I guess? Might have potential. Then again if that's the one they're choosing to showcase out of all the ones they've done, that's a little concerning.
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BethrynUnhappiness is MandatoryRegistered Userregular
Both Harley Quinn and She-Ra had long awaited kisses.
Or a bad week, depending on how invested viewers were in Kite-Man.
Or maybe a great week, depending on how poly-adjacent new Harley Quinn writers are.
...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
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Make it a season/entire narrative or make it very short and irreverent like the Mickey Mouse shorts, where setting, music, action and expressiveness are central. I have little patience for very character or dialogue-focused sitcom/sketch cartoons and Hannah-Barbera characters are even more one-note than Disney equivalents.
Make it a season/entire narrative or make it very short and irreverent like the Mickey Mouse shorts, where setting, music, action and expressiveness are central. I have little patience for very character or dialogue-focused sitcom/sketch cartoons and Hannah-Barbera characters are even more one-note than Disney equivalents.
But Looney toons aren't Hannah Barbera characters
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Make it a season/entire narrative or make it very short and irreverent like the Mickey Mouse shorts, where setting, music, action and expressiveness are central. I have little patience for very character or dialogue-focused sitcom/sketch cartoons and Hannah-Barbera characters are even more one-note than Disney equivalents.
But Looney toons aren't Hannah Barbera characters
Cough. I was tired when I wrote that. But I feel the same way about the Looney Tunes roster or animation in general.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
The only thing I see anyone complaining about are some of the redemptions but eh. I think most of them were decent to good.
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
I don't think her actions are all that bad for her character.
This show would have been alright with the abusive, manipulative, nightmarish parent, who the leads spend the whole thing trying to get her influence out of their lives, wasn't redeemed.
Like that, and that the only NB character was pretty much an evil mercenary, and wasn't redeemed.
I disagree that Shadowbender was redeemed. If they wanted to redeem her, her last words wouldn't have been "You're welcome."
Both Harley Quinn and She-Ra had long awaited kisses.
Or a bad week, depending on how invested viewers were in Kite-Man.
Or maybe a great week, depending on how poly-adjacent new Harley Quinn writers are.
I will be honest, I thought that the Catra+She-Ra ship was either one sided or platonic for most of the series. That it was definitively romantic recontextualizes why She-Ra was so reluctant to give up on Catra.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Scoob turned out pretty good. It's not really a mystery so you'll be disappointed if you're insisting on that, but the characters are lots of fun and there's tons of Hanna-Barbara references. (In fact a still image on the Microsoft store wrecked the most fun surprise, so heads up.)
The only thing I see anyone complaining about are some of the redemptions but eh. I think most of them were decent to good.
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
I don't think her actions are all that bad for her character.
This show would have been alright with the abusive, manipulative, nightmarish parent, who the leads spend the whole thing trying to get her influence out of their lives, wasn't redeemed.
Like that, and that the only NB character was pretty much an evil mercenary, and wasn't redeemed.
I disagree that Shadowbender was redeemed. If they wanted to redeem her, her last words wouldn't have been "You're welcome."
Both Harley Quinn and She-Ra had long awaited kisses.
Or a bad week, depending on how invested viewers were in Kite-Man.
Or maybe a great week, depending on how poly-adjacent new Harley Quinn writers are.
I will be honest, I thought that the Catra+She-Ra ship was either one sided or platonic for most of the series. That it was definitively romantic recontextualizes why She-Ra was so reluctant to give up on Catra.
I love that
she was her shitty self the whole time. She did *learn* things but she was an abusive mother but there was still a *mothering* aspect to her and she wasn't going to suddenly turn over a new leaf. She makes so much more sense than Hordak.
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The Shivering Truth season 2 continues to be The Shivering Truth. It's very, and much.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
This is the first promo image for the Netflix Cuphead show, with actual footage to show at an animation expo in June:
Making the show look like a 30's cartoon seemed too simple an objective, and this looks more like a Ren & Stimpy style. Just an image, sure, but first impressions and all that. Expectations lowered.
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Far more important to me is the sound design, voice direction, music choices, comedic timing and animation creativity. Imitating the aesthetics/style of the era would be an impressive accomplishment, of course.
I sort of remember there being a "thing" (because there's always a thing") regarding Cuphead and a bunch of people saying/asking "Is it racist that the game is aping an animation style that contained quite a lot of what is today considered racist imagry?".
Wouldn't be terribly surprising if some exec didn't want to use the artstyle for that exact reason.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Scoob turned out pretty good. It's not really a mystery so you'll be disappointed if you're insisting on that, but the characters are lots of fun and there's tons of Hanna-Barbara references. (In fact a still image on the Microsoft store wrecked the most fun surprise, so heads up.)
My kids liked it. It's less a traditional Mystery Inc and more of a Scooby and Shaggy guest starring in a wacky races inspired adventure.
I sort of remember there being a "thing" (because there's always a thing") regarding Cuphead and a bunch of people saying/asking "Is it racist that the game is aping an animation style that contained quite a lot of what is today considered racist imagry?".
Wouldn't be terribly surprising if some exec didn't want to use the artstyle for that exact reason.
I remember the game taking a long time, due to it taking a lot of time to animate 6 layers of everything dancing around.
Part if the simplified style might also be due to execs wanting it finished on time/limit costs.
The ending of BoJack Horseman kind of soured me on the show as a whole. I think I'm ready for more of Tuca & Bertie so I can have a more satisfying show in that style.
The ending of BoJack Horseman kind of soured me on the show as a whole.
Shots fired? I liked that ending.
I just had to make peace with the fact that I had fundamentally misunderstood what the show was going for.
As a person who has long dealt with anxiety and depression and its impacts on my life, I wanted to see BoJack eventually turn his own life around. Instead, all the side characters who weren't as bad off as BoJack mentally got happy endings and relationships, with BoJack himself apparently a hopeless cause with no one who truly cares about him that will never be capable of fixing his life.
The ending of BoJack Horseman kind of soured me on the show as a whole.
Shots fired? I liked that ending.
I just had to make peace with the fact that I had fundamentally misunderstood what the show was going for.
As a person who has long dealt with anxiety and depression and its impacts on my life, I wanted to see BoJack eventually turn his own life around. Instead, all the side characters who weren't as bad off as BoJack mentally got happy endings and relationships, with BoJack himself apparently a hopeless cause with no one who truly cares about him that will never be capable of fixing his life.
It's not quite like that.
He's moving forward -- he's gradually improving and trying to fix things. Chances are, once he gets out of jail, he'll be a better person.
But the point of this season is that he's done a LOT of shit. Far too much that can be swept under the rug and forgotten. He's sympathetic to a point, but don't forget, he's done some horrible things, even if (sometimes) he had good intentions. Forgiveness makes sense up to a point, but overlooking that much stuff can turn into enabling. Beyond that, not everyone can deal with that amount of stuff without being dragged down themselves. Often, fixing things when you're that self-destructive can be painful. Some people can accept their apologies and keep them in their lives (like Mr. Peanutbutter), but some people can't (like Diane). It's not that some people are being overly harsh or too selfish -- people just have different limits of what they deal with. It's just human nature.
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Not really feeling Amphibia. Every episode involves Ann/e being stupid, selfish, naive, careless or completely thoughtless and then the problem she creates resolves in the end. Funny and inventive at times but very very rote. And unlike Owl House, another incredibly similar isekai-style series, it doesn't have Eda.
The ending of BoJack Horseman kind of soured me on the show as a whole.
Shots fired? I liked that ending.
I just had to make peace with the fact that I had fundamentally misunderstood what the show was going for.
As a person who has long dealt with anxiety and depression and its impacts on my life, I wanted to see BoJack eventually turn his own life around. Instead, all the side characters who weren't as bad off as BoJack mentally got happy endings and relationships, with BoJack himself apparently a hopeless cause with no one who truly cares about him that will never be capable of fixing his life.
It's not quite like that.
He's moving forward -- he's gradually improving and trying to fix things. Chances are, once he gets out of jail, he'll be a better person.
But the point of this season is that he's done a LOT of shit. Far too much that can be swept under the rug and forgotten. He's sympathetic to a point, but don't forget, he's done some horrible things, even if (sometimes) he had good intentions. Forgiveness makes sense up to a point, but overlooking that much stuff can turn into enabling. Beyond that, not everyone can deal with that amount of stuff without being dragged down themselves. Often, fixing things when you're that self-destructive can be painful. Some people can accept their apologies and keep them in their lives (like Mr. Peanutbutter), but some people can't (like Diane). It's not that some people are being overly harsh or too selfish -- people just have different limits of what they deal with. It's just human nature.
Yeah. I've had my bouts with depression, and I found Bojack's storyline to be surprisingly optimistic for him. Does he get a happy ending? Well, it's probably happier than he deserves... but the point of the series (to me) is that people don't get what they deserve; they get what they get.
Not really feeling Amphibia. Every episode involves Ann/e being stupid, selfish, naive, careless or completely thoughtless and then the problem she creates resolves in the end. Funny and inventive at times but very very rote. And unlike Owl House, another incredibly similar isekai-style series, it doesn't have Eda.
There are things I like about it, but it is definitely the lesser show. The last few episodes seem to set up a status quo that’s going somewhere, though.
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Given that it sounds like they got Oolong's English VA to play Pigsy...
I see a lot of complaints about Shadow Weaver in particular, but she makes sense to me. Pretty much everything about her makes sense when you understand she cares about magic almost exclusively, even her idea of the 'right thing' is 'get magic to everyone by any means' so she's still sketchy.
And according to those motivations she dies to make sure the magic is freed (even though she really, really wanted to see it herself).
Time to fix a grevious mistake...
I’ve seen Clone Wars though.
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I was talking about myself.
I... I've never watch any of the Last Airbender.
Isn't Last Airbender that terrible movie, while "Avatar: The Last Airbender" is the show to watch?
Yes.
...It's the godawful movie that was put up, isn't it?
I'm talking about the show.
This show would have been alright with the abusive, manipulative, nightmarish parent, who the leads spend the whole thing trying to get her influence out of their lives, wasn't redeemed.
Like that, and that the only NB character was pretty much an evil mercenary, and wasn't redeemed.
No its the television series that's on Netflix this weekend.
It's... okay, I guess? Might have potential. Then again if that's the one they're choosing to showcase out of all the ones they've done, that's a little concerning.
Or maybe a great week, depending on how poly-adjacent new Harley Quinn writers are.
But Looney toons aren't Hannah Barbera characters
Cough. I was tired when I wrote that. But I feel the same way about the Looney Tunes roster or animation in general.
I love that
Making the show look like a 30's cartoon seemed too simple an objective, and this looks more like a Ren & Stimpy style. Just an image, sure, but first impressions and all that. Expectations lowered.
Wouldn't be terribly surprising if some exec didn't want to use the artstyle for that exact reason.
My kids liked it. It's less a traditional Mystery Inc and more of a Scooby and Shaggy guest starring in a wacky races inspired adventure.
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I remember the game taking a long time, due to it taking a lot of time to animate 6 layers of everything dancing around.
Part if the simplified style might also be due to execs wanting it finished on time/limit costs.
It really just requires the math to make them more money vs. losing money to bigots. See: the major increase in Mexican and black representation.
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Fuck Joe Manchin
I never was able to connect with Bojack Horseman.
Tuca & Bertie I was on board.
Shots fired? I liked that ending.
Meanwhile, I couldn't get past the second episode of Tuca & Bertie. It was far too Random Zany Shenanigans for me to hold interest.
I just had to make peace with the fact that I had fundamentally misunderstood what the show was going for.
As a person who has long dealt with anxiety and depression and its impacts on my life, I wanted to see BoJack eventually turn his own life around. Instead, all the side characters who weren't as bad off as BoJack mentally got happy endings and relationships, with BoJack himself apparently a hopeless cause with no one who truly cares about him that will never be capable of fixing his life.
It's not quite like that.
But the point of this season is that he's done a LOT of shit. Far too much that can be swept under the rug and forgotten. He's sympathetic to a point, but don't forget, he's done some horrible things, even if (sometimes) he had good intentions. Forgiveness makes sense up to a point, but overlooking that much stuff can turn into enabling. Beyond that, not everyone can deal with that amount of stuff without being dragged down themselves. Often, fixing things when you're that self-destructive can be painful. Some people can accept their apologies and keep them in their lives (like Mr. Peanutbutter), but some people can't (like Diane). It's not that some people are being overly harsh or too selfish -- people just have different limits of what they deal with. It's just human nature.
Yeah. I've had my bouts with depression, and I found Bojack's storyline to be surprisingly optimistic for him. Does he get a happy ending? Well, it's probably happier than he deserves... but the point of the series (to me) is that people don't get what they deserve; they get what they get.
There are things I like about it, but it is definitely the lesser show. The last few episodes seem to set up a status quo that’s going somewhere, though.