Yesterday, Arizona's positive-per-100k rate was literally off the chart on Propublica's cool little arrow thingy, because the upper bound was set to 30. Now they're both at 45, and and the next highest state is barely half that.
Almost all restrictions have been lifted as of today in Québec. Bars are allowed to re-open (but no dancing allowed.. wtf) as are water parks , spas , casinos , amusement parks ...
Now it's shorter to list what is still closed : Festivals , large scale events , fighting sports and summer camps. Everything else is allowed to open if it wasn't already.
O yeah, also now COVID data will be updated only once per week. Today's was the last daily update.
Regarding dancing: this is a respiratory disease (or at least starts that way, yes, I’m aware of the cardio vascular implications as well, begone pedants).
Dancing makes you breathe harder, so infected people are exhaling more and more forcefully, and others are inhaling/inhaling more forcefully.
Especially if it’s an indoors venue.
Outdoors might not be as bad, but I can see where they’re coming from either way.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Hey, y’all remember Captain Crozier, who was the commanding officer of the USS Teddy Roosevelt, CVN-71, who was relieved of command, and then was going to be put back in charge, but then another investigation decided he shouldn’t be back in charge?
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
Hey, y’all remember Captain Crozier, who was the commanding officer of the USS Teddy Roosevelt, CVN-71, who was relieved of command, and then was going to be put back in charge, but then another investigation decided he shouldn’t be back in charge?
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
If we survived to next year with a Democratic President, I sincerely hope he does a thorough cleaning house on Navy leadership. Pushing the blame DOWN the chain of command is not what leaders are supposed to do.
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Hey, y’all remember Captain Crozier, who was the commanding officer of the USS Teddy Roosevelt, CVN-71, who was relieved of command, and then was going to be put back in charge, but then another investigation decided he shouldn’t be back in charge?
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
The Navy’s response to the COVID-19 outbreak on board the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) has been thoroughly consistent in its vacillation and incoherence. The release of the final Command Investigation Report will do little to dispel, and much to advance, the notion that senior Navy leaders operate on the construct of “accountability for thee, but not for me.”
That's the opening paragraph and it doesn't let up from there. Everyone should read it as it's a great example of how much anger and contempt you can put in a piece of writing while still sounding professional.
Czech Republic had 93 new cases today. We're still holding the line, barely, but we've got holidays on the 5th and 6th of July, so next weekend will be extra special long. That and whatever additional opening steps are scheduled for July 1st could make for some problems.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Hey, y’all remember Captain Crozier, who was the commanding officer of the USS Teddy Roosevelt, CVN-71, who was relieved of command, and then was going to be put back in charge, but then another investigation decided he shouldn’t be back in charge?
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
If we survived to next year with a Democratic President, I sincerely hope he does a thorough cleaning house on Navy leadership. Pushing the blame DOWN the chain of command is not what leaders are supposed to do.
Eh. This seems more like a hit job on the guy who made POTUS mad than an ass covering. It seems pretty unlikely that anyone between Crozier and Trump were ever in any danger of getting in trouble for fucking up their pandemic response
Navy leadership cleared him all the way up to the acting SecNav the first time around. Seems pretty plausible that Esper told the CNO to find a reason to reverse his reversal or POTUS was going to rip his stars off and give them to Eddie Gallagher.
Perhaps not that specific threat, but "it will be a lot better for Captain Crozier than what happens if you can't" certainly seems in the realm of possibilities.
Texas governor, yesterday: "We have no plans to roll back opening up!"
Texas governor, today: "No seating in bars starting now, restaurants back to 50% capacity starting Monday. Also, no river rafting or unapproved outdoor gatherings of 100 people or more" (that last one seems kind of aimed at protests and the number allowed has been creeping down)
In other words, "what's the smallest amount of stuff I can do to make it look like I'm doing something". Like, you can't go river rafting but you can still go to a water park? Never mind that he's already proven that if they try to enforce his orders he'll pardon the offender and the Lt. Governor and AG will pump up their GoFundMe.
I definitely hope Florida does the same, considering new cases cases today jumped by about 60% over the previous record from just a few days ago, which was itself a huge spike from the previous record from just a few days prior to that.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
Gov. Sisolak has just mandated face covering in public, and it's almost exactly what Big Dookie up there said: we can stay in phase 2 and still keep everyone a lot safer if everyone covers their damn snot and pie holes in public. Leave your house and do the things, but you must wear a mask, yes even tourists, and we'll see how this goes. Phase 3 has been postponed indefinitely, so restrictions in place for phase 2 are still in effect, and while hospital capacity hasn't been too impacted yet it's better to get ahead of it. Masks are strongly encouraged for ages 2-10, and everyone older than that needs one, period. It goes into effect tomorrow to give businesses a chance to prepare because OSHA and licensing boards will be involved.
The statement itself is kind of amazing.
*Home Means Nevada intensifies*
Washoe County reported 90 new cases yesterday, which is the all-time high if I’m not mistaken. This directive is timely, good, and necessary.
Hey, y’all remember Captain Crozier, who was the commanding officer of the USS Teddy Roosevelt, CVN-71, who was relieved of command, and then was going to be put back in charge, but then another investigation decided he shouldn’t be back in charge?
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
If we survived to next year with a Democratic President, I sincerely hope he does a thorough cleaning house on Navy leadership. Pushing the blame DOWN the chain of command is not what leaders are supposed to do.
Eh. This seems more like a hit job on the guy who made POTUS mad than an ass covering. It seems pretty unlikely that anyone between Crozier and Trump were ever in any danger of getting in trouble for fucking up their pandemic response
Navy leadership cleared him all the way up to the acting SecNav the first time around. Seems pretty plausible that Esper told the CNO to find a reason to reverse his reversal or POTUS was going to rip his stars off and give them to Eddie Gallagher.
Perhaps not that specific threat, but "it will be a lot better for Captain Crozier than what happens if you can't" certainly seems in the realm of possibilities.
Whether they were covering their own ass or just getting rid of him because the President was mad, it's still cowardice in my book.
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Texas governor, yesterday: "We have no plans to roll back opening up!"
Texas governor, today: "No seating in bars starting now, restaurants back to 50% capacity starting Monday. Also, no river rafting or unapproved outdoor gatherings of 100 people or more" (that last one seems kind of aimed at protests and the number allowed has been creeping down)
In other words, "what's the smallest amount of stuff I can do to make it look like I'm doing something". Like, you can't go river rafting but you can still go to a water park? Never mind that he's already proven that if they try to enforce his orders he'll pardon the offender and the Lt. Governor and AG will pump up their GoFundMe.
Of course, most sane people know that the bare minimum right now isn't going to do shit, because that cat is already out of the bag. Nothing short of a complete lock-down at this point is going to curb what's going on in Texas right now. My only hope is that enough people remember this in 2 years to hold him accountable for his lack of action and vote his ass out of office.
I definitely hope Florida does the same, considering new cases cases today jumped by about 60% over the previous record from just a few days ago, which was itself a huge spike from the previous record from just a few days prior to that.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
Literally minutes later, Florida bans sale of alcohol for consumption on-site
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I definitely hope Florida does the same, considering new cases cases today jumped by about 60% over the previous record from just a few days ago, which was itself a huge spike from the previous record from just a few days prior to that.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
Literally minutes later, Florida bans sale of alcohol for consumption on-site
Yup, but nothing about restaurants or anywhere else. Just no alcohol sales at bars.
I definitely hope Florida does the same, considering new cases cases today jumped by about 60% over the previous record from just a few days ago, which was itself a huge spike from the previous record from just a few days prior to that.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
Literally minutes later, Florida bans sale of alcohol for consumption on-site
Yup, but nothing about restaurants or anywhere else. Just no alcohol sales at bars.
Yeah I've been reading clarification that establishments that make at least 10% of their revenue from food are exempt because they can be considered restaurants.
I definitely hope Florida does the same, considering new cases cases today jumped by about 60% over the previous record from just a few days ago, which was itself a huge spike from the previous record from just a few days prior to that.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
Literally minutes later, Florida bans sale of alcohol for consumption on-site
Yup, but nothing about restaurants or anywhere else. Just no alcohol sales at bars.
Yeah I've been reading clarification that establishments that make at least 10% of their revenue from food are exempt because they can be considered restaurants.
To still serve alcohol you have to generate >50% of sales from food, so the bars and breweries are all shut down again. And the food-truck trick they were using to get around that was closed as well. LOTS of salt in my FB feed.
Looking at that graph, I don't think it's what people mean when they say the south will rise again
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I've already talked about how Bolsonaro has likely not only had COVID-19 but was actively infecting everyone around him for months, from staff to people he very deliberately shook hands with at big rallies where he coughed all over them in between screaming. I suspect Trump has been a Typhoid Mary for months as well, and Bolsonaro even met Trump just before clearly getting sick and then going around coughing on everyone for months.
In deep, deep doublethink news, North Korea, who has been claiming to have never had a case, absolutely no cases, no pandemic in Ba Sing Se, has just locked down the third largest city due to a major outbreak there. Not even a weaksauce American lockdown, but a hardcore "no one goes in or out" closure despite people being at the verge of famine.
But still, no cases. At the least malicious, it's only because they haven't done a lick of testing - can't have confirmed cases if you never confirm it, after all. But also they've almost certainly been lying about it since January.
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Oregon continues to slowly climb. Averaging 200 cases a day this week, and we just reported 5 more deaths, all very old folks with underlying conditions, but it cracks 200 for us.
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The Québec governement walked back their decision to only release weekly updates on the pandemic after being critised left and right for it.
Look at that. A governement that listens!
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The Québec governement walked back their decision to only release weekly updates on the pandemic after being critised left and right for it.
Look at that. A governement that listens!
Tell me what it feels like to have one of those?
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I've already talked about how Bolsonaro has likely not only had COVID-19 but was actively infecting everyone around him for months, from staff to people he very deliberately shook hands with at big rallies where he coughed all over them in between screaming. I suspect Trump has been a Typhoid Mary for months as well, and Bolsonaro even met Trump just before clearly getting sick and then going around coughing on everyone for months.
In deep, deep doublethink news, North Korea, who has been claiming to have never had a case, absolutely no cases, no pandemic in Ba Sing Se, has just locked down the third largest city due to a major outbreak there. Not even a weaksauce American lockdown, but a hardcore "no one goes in or out" closure despite people being at the verge of famine.
But still, no cases. At the least malicious, it's only because they haven't done a lick of testing - can't have confirmed cases if you never confirm it, after all. But also they've almost certainly been lying about it since January.
As far as I know there's no scientific evidence that Typhoid Marys for this disease exist at all, let alone that the only ones in the world all happen to be world leaders.
There's no chance that Trump got this, got over it, and then didn't tell anyone that he kicked the diseases's wimpy butt.
Ohio squeaked past 1000 new cases yesterday, which is the fourth highest it’s been so far in the state. The last time it cracked 1k cases in a day was over two months ago April 20th.
Considering that Ohio case rate has doubled in the past 5 days, I can only assume we’re gonna beat our record of 1380 in short order. I’d be surprised if we make it to mid next week without easily crossing 1500 cases a day.
DeWine has been mostly silent for the past day, though he did encourage mask wearing and social distancing, but he’s not enforcing anything that I’m aware of. Seems to be GOP governors are having the same idea of burying their heads in the sand.
Oh, and Dr Amy Acton, who was instrumental in aggressively flattening Ohio’s curve, was forced to resign as health director two weeks ago due to lockdown backlash and people protesting her home. Ohio was sub-500 new cases starting near the end of May and continued to steadily trend downward until June 10th, literally the day before she was forced to resign (coincidental cause of the lag, but still, one hell of a karmic-esk coincidence).
So ya, not looking too good here.
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There was another study on the people on the Diamond Princess that supports this theory(where people who didn't have symptoms had ground-glass opacities in their lungs).
On the bright side it looks like the death:case ratio is down, maybe being to better treatment, and higher vitamin D production in summer.
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Federal officials failed to immediately stop the distribution of many COVID-19 antibody tests they knew were flawed, leading to inaccurate data about the spread of the virus. Congress is now investigating why the FDA did not review the tests it allowed to be distributed widely throughout the U.S.
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Laredo, Texas, wound up getting thousands of antibody test kits from a Chinese company. The untested kits were then tested by the city's health director, Dr. Hector Gonzalez, who found the tests accuracy to differ wildly depending on when it was given and how long after a person was exposed to the virus. The small sample he tested was only about 20% accurate. "We had such high hopes to test… we were ready to do public drive-through testing… Now we couldn't. We were on hold," recalls Gonzalez.
Laredo officials reported the faulty tests to federal agents at Homeland Security and officials came to town to seize the tests and start an investigation, but the federal government did little to halt the spread of other un-proven antibody testing kits.
Trunp is a known germaphobe. So he might actually be taking just enough precautions to avoid getting sick.
Since he isn’t wearing masks, let alone the N95 that would actually protect him, this likely isn’t true
Masks are more for avoiding getting others sick, which Trump likely doesn't care about because 1. It requires Empathy and 2. Even Trump gets obvious symptoms, he will never, ever admit he got COVID
People in the uk can visit a number of ‘safe’ countries from July 6th.
No need for quarantine at either end if the country is rated ‘green’ for levels of new cases. It does mention there are no checks to stop you flying into a green country and then driving to a neighbouring country that is not rated green.
Booking agents and travel website have reported increases of bookings of 80% since it was announced.
So how long until reported of outbreaks clustered in Spanish resorts ?
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Federal officials failed to immediately stop the distribution of many COVID-19 antibody tests they knew were flawed, leading to inaccurate data about the spread of the virus. Congress is now investigating why the FDA did not review the tests it allowed to be distributed widely throughout the U.S.
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Laredo, Texas, wound up getting thousands of antibody test kits from a Chinese company. The untested kits were then tested by the city's health director, Dr. Hector Gonzalez, who found the tests accuracy to differ wildly depending on when it was given and how long after a person was exposed to the virus. The small sample he tested was only about 20% accurate. "We had such high hopes to test… we were ready to do public drive-through testing… Now we couldn't. We were on hold," recalls Gonzalez.
Laredo officials reported the faulty tests to federal agents at Homeland Security and officials came to town to seize the tests and start an investigation, but the federal government did little to halt the spread of other un-proven antibody testing kits.
How totally unsurprising.
I think we may have had a whole thing about this near the behind of the last thread, this can't possibly be news to people, right?
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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...Jesus Christ, Arizona.
(Also puts CA into a slightly better light)
But they're just masks.... for your feet!
Yesterday, Arizona's positive-per-100k rate was literally off the chart on Propublica's cool little arrow thingy, because the upper bound was set to 30. Now they're both at 45, and and the next highest state is barely half that.
Regarding dancing: this is a respiratory disease (or at least starts that way, yes, I’m aware of the cardio vascular implications as well, begone pedants).
Dancing makes you breathe harder, so infected people are exhaling more and more forcefully, and others are inhaling/inhaling more forcefully.
Especially if it’s an indoors venue.
Outdoors might not be as bad, but I can see where they’re coming from either way.
Well, the US Naval Institute, which is kind of the Navy history and policy think tank at more than 200 years old, has just released a new article about it and it is absolutely scathing.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/june/navys-monday-morning-quarterback-investigation
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If we survived to next year with a Democratic President, I sincerely hope he does a thorough cleaning house on Navy leadership. Pushing the blame DOWN the chain of command is not what leaders are supposed to do.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I think scathing is underselling it. That's the opening paragraph and it doesn't let up from there. Everyone should read it as it's a great example of how much anger and contempt you can put in a piece of writing while still sounding professional.
Czech Republic had 93 new cases today. We're still holding the line, barely, but we've got holidays on the 5th and 6th of July, so next weekend will be extra special long. That and whatever additional opening steps are scheduled for July 1st could make for some problems.
Eh. This seems more like a hit job on the guy who made POTUS mad than an ass covering. It seems pretty unlikely that anyone between Crozier and Trump were ever in any danger of getting in trouble for fucking up their pandemic response
Navy leadership cleared him all the way up to the acting SecNav the first time around. Seems pretty plausible that Esper told the CNO to find a reason to reverse his reversal or POTUS was going to rip his stars off and give them to Eddie Gallagher.
Perhaps not that specific threat, but "it will be a lot better for Captain Crozier than what happens if you can't" certainly seems in the realm of possibilities.
Texas governor, today: "No seating in bars starting now, restaurants back to 50% capacity starting Monday. Also, no river rafting or unapproved outdoor gatherings of 100 people or more" (that last one seems kind of aimed at protests and the number allowed has been creeping down)
In other words, "what's the smallest amount of stuff I can do to make it look like I'm doing something". Like, you can't go river rafting but you can still go to a water park? Never mind that he's already proven that if they try to enforce his orders he'll pardon the offender and the Lt. Governor and AG will pump up their GoFundMe.
Florida is definitely going to start reaching into the tens of thousands of new cases per day very soon.
*wears everything but pants*
Whether they were covering their own ass or just getting rid of him because the President was mad, it's still cowardice in my book.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Don’t breath shared indoor air if you can help it!
Of course, most sane people know that the bare minimum right now isn't going to do shit, because that cat is already out of the bag. Nothing short of a complete lock-down at this point is going to curb what's going on in Texas right now. My only hope is that enough people remember this in 2 years to hold him accountable for his lack of action and vote his ass out of office.
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here's a solid editorial detailing just how much of a fucker he is with the whole pandemic
Literally minutes later, Florida bans sale of alcohol for consumption on-site
Yup, but nothing about restaurants or anywhere else. Just no alcohol sales at bars.
Yeah I've been reading clarification that establishments that make at least 10% of their revenue from food are exempt because they can be considered restaurants.
To still serve alcohol you have to generate >50% of sales from food, so the bars and breweries are all shut down again. And the food-truck trick they were using to get around that was closed as well. LOTS of salt in my FB feed.
The COVID-19 Tracking Project tracks covid in the US
Things in the South continue to deteriorate
I now believe Mexico's President is a third head-of-state super-spreader. At least two high-ranking government officials have tested positive days after meeting with AMLO, who has refused testing for himself and hasn't been wearing masks. I mean, yeah, could be coincidence, sure, but AMLO is showing the same behavior as all the right-wing authoritarians despite ostensibly being left-wing, so I'm not giving him the benefit of a doubt.
In deep, deep doublethink news, North Korea, who has been claiming to have never had a case, absolutely no cases, no pandemic in Ba Sing Se, has just locked down the third largest city due to a major outbreak there. Not even a weaksauce American lockdown, but a hardcore "no one goes in or out" closure despite people being at the verge of famine.
But still, no cases. At the least malicious, it's only because they haven't done a lick of testing - can't have confirmed cases if you never confirm it, after all. But also they've almost certainly been lying about it since January.
... what you're all saying is ... the South is rising again?
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Look at that. A governement that listens!
Tell me what it feels like to have one of those?
As far as I know there's no scientific evidence that Typhoid Marys for this disease exist at all, let alone that the only ones in the world all happen to be world leaders.
There's no chance that Trump got this, got over it, and then didn't tell anyone that he kicked the diseases's wimpy butt.
Considering that Ohio case rate has doubled in the past 5 days, I can only assume we’re gonna beat our record of 1380 in short order. I’d be surprised if we make it to mid next week without easily crossing 1500 cases a day.
DeWine has been mostly silent for the past day, though he did encourage mask wearing and social distancing, but he’s not enforcing anything that I’m aware of. Seems to be GOP governors are having the same idea of burying their heads in the sand.
Oh, and Dr Amy Acton, who was instrumental in aggressively flattening Ohio’s curve, was forced to resign as health director two weeks ago due to lockdown backlash and people protesting her home. Ohio was sub-500 new cases starting near the end of May and continued to steadily trend downward until June 10th, literally the day before she was forced to resign (coincidental cause of the lag, but still, one hell of a karmic-esk coincidence).
So ya, not looking too good here.
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Also he's been using bronzer for so long I doubt he ever touches his face
Since he isn’t wearing masks, let alone the N95 that would actually protect him, this likely isn’t true
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There was another study on the people on the Diamond Princess that supports this theory(where people who didn't have symptoms had ground-glass opacities in their lungs).
On the bright side it looks like the death:case ratio is down, maybe being to better treatment, and higher vitamin D production in summer.
How totally unsurprising.
Almost 9k new cases in Florida yesterday. That graph, holy shit
Masks are more for avoiding getting others sick, which Trump likely doesn't care about because 1. It requires Empathy and 2. Even Trump gets obvious symptoms, he will never, ever admit he got COVID
9.5k today, according to the BBC.
Also, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53206148
People in the uk can visit a number of ‘safe’ countries from July 6th.
No need for quarantine at either end if the country is rated ‘green’ for levels of new cases. It does mention there are no checks to stop you flying into a green country and then driving to a neighbouring country that is not rated green.
Booking agents and travel website have reported increases of bookings of 80% since it was announced.
So how long until reported of outbreaks clustered in Spanish resorts ?
I think we may have had a whole thing about this near the behind of the last thread, this can't possibly be news to people, right?