And sorry 38thdoe, your votes look bad too. Day 4 could look like a good move, but it could be a situation where you were mafia and I stuck you between a rock and a hard place asking you to move your vote off of ZH.
(my paranoia growwwws)
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I don't think partisans are a concern to villagers. They win together no matter what the house.
Partisans just gotta worry about partisans from other houses.
And mafia is prob concerned about partisans unlocking powers.
So for example; currently I could win with discrider. If I get converted then I can no longer win with him.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
edited July 2020
Wow we still have 11 people alive.
1. 38thDoe B- Not showing enough effort *See me after class*
5. discrider Bad Day 3, Good Day 4 good 5
6. Gizzy - Good Day 3+4, helpful info fountain for village
7. Green H3Knuckles - Mafia avoid his wagon day 2, bad vote day 3+4+5
8. Heffling - Bad 3+4 good 5 but last vote on a huge lead
11. JPants Bad 3 good 4+5
12. JusticeforPluto Bad 4+5
15. MamaWolf Good 3+4+5
16. ObiFett Bad 3+4 good 5
21. Wildcat Good 3+4 on justice with kime day 5
22. Zombie Hero Bad 3, good 4+5, two mafia on his wagon day 4 Gizzy vouched for.
More info for everyone - and explains why I keep asking people to move their votes off of Heffling and ZH.
They were both starter partisans for their houses.
So if we think the mafia were given one house to be a partisan in at the start .. then maybe? Shalemo was mafia and successfully converted to a partisan. But both ZH and Heffling knew blue was some kind of special way early on, I have PMs from Blue to back that up but you'll see it also in the history.
I think this is ok to share because everyone in the chain has been cured and now a regular villager .. and Discrider and H3 have already been public with their info. Also with all the house purges/resets to zero it's pretty easy to figure out from narration where we're at currently number-wise.
Sidenote - from the pattern, I think houses auto-random spawn a partisan after having a day of being clear. But that's an assumption on my part, still don't know if there's a mafia ability in play.
Day 2
0 Heaven - Phyphor killed by mafia
1 Rising - Heffling failed to convert Invictus (due to voting out)
1 1982 - ZH failed to convert Bluecyan
The House That Heaven Built has been purged of Partisans!
Day 3
1 Heaven - auto spawn? Discrider
0 Rising - Heffling failed to convert Bluecyan; Bluecyan cured Heffling
2 1982 - ZH convert 38thdoe successful
The House of the Rising Sun has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans have taken root in the House that Heaven Built!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have gained influence!
Day 4
2 Heaven - Disrider convert shalmelo successful
1 Rising - auto spawn? Gizzy
1 1982 - 38thdoe cured; ZH failed to convert someone
The Partisans have taken root in the House of the Rising Sun!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have lost influence!
The Partisans of the House That Heaven Built have gained influence!
Day 5
1 Heaven - shalmelo voted out; Disrider still a partisan
0 Rising - Blue cured Gizzy; Gizzy did not attempt to convert anyone
2 1982 - Roman cured ZH, 2 converted (Disc -> H3 and ZH -> Jpants)
The House of the Rising Sun has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have gained influence!
The Partisans of the House That Heaven Built have lost influence!
Day 6
0 Heaven - Discrider cured
1 Rising - auto spawn?
1 1982 - Jpants cured, H3 still a partisan
The Partisans have taken root in the House of the Rising Sun!
The House That Heaven Built has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have lost influence!
Day 7
1 Heaven - auto spawn? Discrider
1 Rising - no increase, not sure if attempt was made/failed, mystery person still a partisan
1 1982 - no increase; H3 did not attempt to convert anyone, H3 still a partisan
The Partisans have taken root in the House That Heaven Built and have assumed control of the House!
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Can confirm, I was initially Partisan for House of the Rising Sun.
We also know that there are 6 total mafia members, based on Bluecyan's post. Because the Stewards could see the numbers increase in their House by their voting power.
We know that 2 went down from Heaven, and that there's at least 1 left in each of 1982 and Rising Sun. The Partisan in Rising Sun isn't, to the best of my knowledge, myself, Gizzy, or Mamawolf. There's also at least one more.
@Gizzy From Bluecyan's posting, we know that Mafia can change houses. This includes if they are Partisans. So the resurgences in House numbers could line up with Mafia partisans changing houses. If this is correct, then Discrider is almost certainly a Mafioso.
I'm not sure I follow that logic, that discrider as a mafia member would transform himself into a partisan? Or he was always a partisan but in a no-house vortex then moved into heaven?
That would also make myself be mafia - as I think I was a random spawn.
You can follow the timeline I have posted, and also look at each narration. It all matches up. If he was a partisan in a different house, I would expect the number to decrease, but everywhere there's a decrease is also a confirmed cure.
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After my persistence in gunning for premium? You wound me, JPants.
!JusticeforPluto because repeating my day 1 vote is amusing.
Only there cause mafia can sacrifice each other.... and my OCD wanted to continue the pair thing.
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edited July 2020
Hey, sorry. Was busy watching my nephew this afternoon. Just caught up on the thread.
I don't really have a strong gut feeling on this, but I actually feel like Heffling and Obi's votes look more like someone trying to avoid suspicion than JusticeforPluto's, but I think I might be overthinking things there.
A little worrying that J4P appears to be sweeping the board - either mafia know he can't be saved or are gleefully voting for an innocent. But there we go.
We've already killed three Mafia, and it looks like the village has this on lock, so it could just be fine.
I'm more concerned about surprise partisan everyone win.
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Day 1
2 Jdarksun โ shalmelo (7), Lostninja (14)
2 Heffling โ cj iwakura (9), Phyphor (23)
2 Wildcat โ Gizzy (19), Zombie Hero (24), premium (25)
2 Invictus โ Auralynx (30), kime (31)
1 Obifett โ Bluecyan (1)
1 Shalmelo โ jdarksun (2)
1 JusticeforPluto โ Wildcat (3)
1 Green/H3 Knuckles โ mamawolf (4), mamawolf (17)
1 Bluecyan โ Heffling (6)
1 Phyphor โ Gizzy (13), Invictus (15), romanqwerty (16)
1 Romanqwerty โ ObiFett (18)
1 Zombie Hero โ 38thDoe (22)
1 Mamawolf โ Green/H3 (5), discrider (8)
0 Kime โ romanqwerty (11), JPants (20)
0 Discrider โ mamawolf (12)
0 Gizzy โ Auralynx (21)
Day 2
4 Bluecyan โ Gizzy (3), Mamawolf (5), Zombie Hero (6), Kime (8), premium (17), Discrider (19), CJ iwakura(20)
4 Green/H3 Knuckles โ Bluecyan (12), Mamawolf (13), Discrider (22), jdarksun (23)
1 Auralynx โ Jpants (7), Justice for Pluto (21)
1 premium โ Wildcat (14)
Missing votes: H3/Green, LostNinja
Day 3
4 Lost Ninja โ Heffling (2), JPants (9), Green/H3 (10), romanqwerty (15)
4 Premium โ Gizzy (7), Bluecyan (8), mamawolf (12), wildcat (14), discrider (17)
2 Shalmelo โ Discrider (3), Lost Ninja (6), jdarksun (13)
1 Jdarksun โ Obifett (11)
0 Green/H3 โ Lost Ninja (1)
0 Kime โ romanqwerty (4)
Missing votes: 38thDoe, JusticeforPluto, kime
Day 4
5 Zombie Hero โ Lostninja (10), Heffling (11), 38thDoe (12), shalmelo (13), kime (16), H3Knuckles (19)
3 kime โ Gizzy (7), Zombie Hero (17), JPants (18)
2 Romanqwerty โ JusticeforPluto (3), discrider (6), kime (8), Obifett (23)
1 Discrider - 38thdoe (14)
0 Jpants โ discrider (9)
0 JusticeforPluto - Zombie Hero (15)
0 Lost Ninja โ romanqwerty (1)
Day 5
2 JusticeforPluto โ Heffling (7), wildcat (12), kime (15)
2 Obifett โ Gizzy (5), H3Knuckles (8)
1 Zombie Hero โ LostNinja (2)
1 LostNinja โ JusticeforPluto (3)
0 H3Knuckles โ Discrider (1)
Day 6
3 Heffling โ Zombie Hero (6), Jpants (7), H3Knuckles (8), LostNinja (11), Obifett (12)
3 LostNinja โ romanqwerty (1), Gizzy (9), H3Knuckles (10)
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(my paranoia growwwws)
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roman voted for lostninja, killing lostninja
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Roman was Thunderstruck (mafia'd) not voted. Roman voted for Lost which put him above H3K.
Vote manip as village vig is kinda rough as it effectively removes the village's ability to kill reliably.
Assuming there was not also a Partisan powered vig, of course.
Partisans just gotta worry about partisans from other houses.
And mafia is prob concerned about partisans unlocking powers.
So for example; currently I could win with discrider. If I get converted then I can no longer win with him.
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1. 38thDoe B- Not showing enough effort *See me after class*
5. discrider Bad Day 3, Good Day 4 good 5
6. Gizzy - Good Day 3+4, helpful info fountain for village
7. Green H3Knuckles - Mafia avoid his wagon day 2, bad vote day 3+4+5
8. Heffling - Bad 3+4 good 5 but last vote on a huge lead
11. JPants Bad 3 good 4+5
12. JusticeforPluto Bad 4+5
15. MamaWolf Good 3+4+5
16. ObiFett Bad 3+4 good 5
21. Wildcat Good 3+4 on justice with kime day 5
22. Zombie Hero Bad 3, good 4+5, two mafia on his wagon day 4 Gizzy vouched for.
Probably Good
38
Gizzy
ZH
Mamawolf
jpants
wildcat
discrider
Obi
Heffling
Justice
H3k
Probably Bad
They were both starter partisans for their houses.
So if we think the mafia were given one house to be a partisan in at the start .. then maybe? Shalemo was mafia and successfully converted to a partisan. But both ZH and Heffling knew blue was some kind of special way early on, I have PMs from Blue to back that up but you'll see it also in the history.
I think this is ok to share because everyone in the chain has been cured and now a regular villager .. and Discrider and H3 have already been public with their info. Also with all the house purges/resets to zero it's pretty easy to figure out from narration where we're at currently number-wise.
Sidenote - from the pattern, I think houses auto-random spawn a partisan after having a day of being clear. But that's an assumption on my part, still don't know if there's a mafia ability in play.
Partisan Conversion History
1 Heaven - Phyphor
1 Rising - Heffling
1 1982 - ZH
Day 2
0 Heaven - Phyphor killed by mafia
1 Rising - Heffling failed to convert Invictus (due to voting out)
1 1982 - ZH failed to convert Bluecyan
The House That Heaven Built has been purged of Partisans!
Day 3
1 Heaven - auto spawn? Discrider
0 Rising - Heffling failed to convert Bluecyan; Bluecyan cured Heffling
2 1982 - ZH convert 38thdoe successful
The House of the Rising Sun has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans have taken root in the House that Heaven Built!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have gained influence!
Day 4
2 Heaven - Disrider convert shalmelo successful
1 Rising - auto spawn? Gizzy
1 1982 - 38thdoe cured; ZH failed to convert someone
The Partisans have taken root in the House of the Rising Sun!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have lost influence!
The Partisans of the House That Heaven Built have gained influence!
Day 5
1 Heaven - shalmelo voted out; Disrider still a partisan
0 Rising - Blue cured Gizzy; Gizzy did not attempt to convert anyone
2 1982 - Roman cured ZH, 2 converted (Disc -> H3 and ZH -> Jpants)
The House of the Rising Sun has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have gained influence!
The Partisans of the House That Heaven Built have lost influence!
Day 6
0 Heaven - Discrider cured
1 Rising - auto spawn?
1 1982 - Jpants cured, H3 still a partisan
The Partisans have taken root in the House of the Rising Sun!
The House That Heaven Built has been purged of Partisans!
The Partisans of the House of 1982 have lost influence!
Day 7
1 Heaven - auto spawn? Discrider
1 Rising - no increase, not sure if attempt was made/failed, mystery person still a partisan
1 1982 - no increase; H3 did not attempt to convert anyone, H3 still a partisan
The Partisans have taken root in the House That Heaven Built and have assumed control of the House!
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We also know that there are 6 total mafia members, based on Bluecyan's post. Because the Stewards could see the numbers increase in their House by their voting power.
We know that 2 went down from Heaven, and that there's at least 1 left in each of 1982 and Rising Sun. The Partisan in Rising Sun isn't, to the best of my knowledge, myself, Gizzy, or Mamawolf. There's also at least one more.
@Gizzy From Bluecyan's posting, we know that Mafia can change houses. This includes if they are Partisans. So the resurgences in House numbers could line up with Mafia partisans changing houses. If this is correct, then Discrider is almost certainly a Mafioso.
That would also make myself be mafia - as I think I was a random spawn.
You can follow the timeline I have posted, and also look at each narration. It all matches up. If he was a partisan in a different house, I would expect the number to decrease, but everywhere there's a decrease is also a confirmed cure.
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If 38th ends up mafia this is the best "mafia wouldn't make that mistake" move I can remember seeing.
Obi/J4P
H3K/38th
discrider/Wildcat - would be moderately surprised by either of these.
Not sure what today's vote is at but I'll go Obi since i think J4P is in the lead.
!JusticeforPluto because repeating my day 1 vote is amusing.
Only there cause mafia can sacrifice each other.... and my OCD wanted to continue the pair thing.
I don't really have a strong gut feeling on this, but I actually feel like Heffling and Obi's votes look more like someone trying to avoid suspicion than JusticeforPluto's, but I think I might be overthinking things there.
I'm more concerned about surprise partisan everyone win.
I'm not very concerned with winning at this point.
I lost yesterday.
I did not in thread mention my house.
Other than its a godforsaken hellhole. Our AC died and it is quite warm.
Sorry I missed the vote