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The Official Bug Identification Thread Starring Arch, Bugboy, and Fiendishrabbit

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Arch wrote: »
    That's not a cockroach, that's for sure.

    It looks to be some kind of ground beetle in the family Carabidae.

    My gut says it's a Black Clock Beetle - Pterostichus madidus, but I'd need a bit more information (location, for example, I think Black Clock Beetles are a UK thing) a better scale and a better picture of the antennae to be sure.

    The eyes are a bit off as well, but it could just be the picture quality and angle.

    Oh sorry! Forgot location. I'm in Maine. Next one that visits, we'll try to corral it for a better pic. Just happy it's not a roach. :D

    If you're in Maine, then I'd go with my edit- Harpalus pensylvanicus, or something so closely related I'm not equipped to tell them apart.

    EDIT: Also, the good news is these guys are predators! ....but roaches would probably be too large for them to eat. They're kind of stereotypical Good Bugs.

    EDIT EDIT: H. pensylvanicus is apparently a weed predator, meaning it eats important weeds, and not other bugs.

    Learn new things every day, I guess.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Started seeing a few of these running around the office at work the last few days. Are these cockroaches, or something less gross that just wandered in? They're maybe 3/4 of an inch long. Best pic I could get because the little asshole wouldn't stand still very long.

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    Not a cockroach. Cockroaches have (for example) very noticable spines along their legs and the abdomen and thorax joins smoothly.

    This is a ground beetle. note the large "spurs" that are common to many varieties of ground beetle. The shape of the pronotum is also typical for ground beetles.
    Now ground beetles is a huuuuge family of beetles and I'm not an expert so the exact species eludes me. I don't know of any specific groundbeetle that has spurs that large, lacks a striated elytra and has that general bodyshape. But it's 100% a ground beetle.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    (I think the elytra are striated, it's just a blurry picture. I'm getting more confident that it's a member of the genus Harpalus)

    EDIT: Harpalus has so many species oh man

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Arch wrote: »
    (I think the elytra are striated, it's just a blurry picture. I'm getting more confident that it's a member of the genus Harpalus)

    EDIT: Harpalus has so many species oh man

    Even the "pseudo-pennsylvanicus" group is pretty darn big (yes, there is a scientific category for ground beetles that look similar to pennsylvania ground beetles)

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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Started seeing a few of these running around the office at work the last few days. Are these cockroaches, or something less gross that just wandered in? They're maybe 3/4 of an inch long. Best pic I could get because the little asshole wouldn't stand still very long.

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    Not a cockroach. Cockroaches have (for example) very noticable spines along their legs and the abdomen and thorax joins smoothly.

    This is a ground beetle. note the large "spurs" that are common to many varieties of ground beetle. The shape of the pronotum is also typical for ground beetles.
    Now ground beetles is a huuuuge family of beetles and I'm not an expert so the exact species eludes me. I don't know of any specific groundbeetle that has spurs that large, lacks a striated elytra and has that general bodyshape. But it's 100% a ground beetle.

    What's the difference between a spine and a spur?

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Spines typically run down the length of a limb, and spurs are located at joints, is what I was taught

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Started seeing a few of these running around the office at work the last few days. Are these cockroaches, or something less gross that just wandered in? They're maybe 3/4 of an inch long. Best pic I could get because the little asshole wouldn't stand still very long.

    xsauipnkts4z.jpg

    Not a cockroach. Cockroaches have (for example) very noticable spines along their legs and the abdomen and thorax joins smoothly.

    This is a ground beetle. note the large "spurs" that are common to many varieties of ground beetle. The shape of the pronotum is also typical for ground beetles.
    Now ground beetles is a huuuuge family of beetles and I'm not an expert so the exact species eludes me. I don't know of any specific groundbeetle that has spurs that large, lacks a striated elytra and has that general bodyshape. But it's 100% a ground beetle.

    What's the difference between a spine and a spur?

    One of them prevents things from riding you, one of them helps you ride other things

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    If it looks like the limb forks to better grip things, that's a spur.

    If it looks like the limb has a row of spikes for defense, that's a spine.

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    Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    Man this thread is so good, I love reading it. Thank you all!

    I have my own bug question now. The first time we saw this bug was when I was cutting an apple I'd just washed. I noticed one bug on the bottom then turned it upside down and realized there were scads of them crawling out of the bottom bit. Sure enough they appeared to have tunneled into the bottom and gotten cozy inside the core. I'd (jokingly) chastised my wife for buying these apples sourced from New Zealand when we live in WA (she said none of the local apples at the store looked good) and now she's really not going to buy NZ apples again.

    But now the little buggers are showing up all over the place! I took a (cloth) diaper liner out of the washbasket at the other end of the house and found one crawling on it (they do come out of the dryer in the room off the kitchen). My wife found one on the toilet and one on the bed as well. After a bit I noticed some have little wings so that may be how they're getting around. Tough to get a picture of because they're really tiny. I tried googling based off the apple core experience, but just got a lot of orchard pest information.

    Pre-edit - I typed that and googled a little more and it's daggone weevils isn't it? A few days ago my wife said our big ol' bag of brown rice was infested (tossed it), and right at the top of wikipedia it says the maize weevil sometimes gets into apples. Daggone it, time for pantry cleaning and more reading about how to cleanse the house.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Yep, those look like weevils. Just remember, if you have to choose, pick the smaller one.

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    As my father said when he thought weevils got into our oatmeal: protein!

    In retrospect, I wonder if comments like that play into his current health issues.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Congrats, you live out of ziplock bags for 6 weeks now!

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    On the plus side, that is some pretty impressive close up photography of weevil kind.
    I mean, it's not much of a comfort, I'm sure. But it's something.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    I'm not sure those are maize weevils specifically, but it does look like some kind of grain pest weevil.

    You can seal up bags of grain and put them in the freezer for a few days if you don't mind the notion that you might end up eating the larvae inside the rice grains. Ziplock bags, as mentioned, are your friends, as is the freezer (NOT FRIDGE) for anything you think can survive a few days in there and be edible.

    I'm always the last person to recommend chemical methods of control, but you could try minor fumigation if the problem persists, but I'd contact a professional first.

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    bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    free proteine!

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    bwanie wrote: »
    free proteine!

    Yep, there's a silver lining to everything. I recently waged war against a meal moth infestation. Those fuckers reproduce like crazy and every time I thought they were gone, a new generation would emerge from somewhere, driving me crazy.

    But I also have an aquarium, and the moths and their larvae make perfect fish food. My fish have never looked as colorful and healthy as during the Moth War.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Bliss 101 wrote: »
    bwanie wrote: »
    free proteine!

    Yep, there's a silver lining to everything. I recently waged war against a meal moth infestation. Those fuckers reproduce like crazy and every time I thought they were gone, a new generation would emerge from somewhere, driving me crazy.

    But I also have an aquarium, and the moths and their larvae make perfect fish food. My fish have never looked as colorful and healthy as during the Moth War.

    I wonder how the fish viewed that
    "The mythological time in history when the Ape gods waged war against the air meat. It was a time of plenty my son. When the bodies of the fallen fell into the sacred waters to be consumed, and everyone was wearing a coat of gold."

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Found this little guy on my son’s leg during our bike ride. Assuming some kind of stick bug nymph?

    Northern VA.

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    Ed: Ugh. iPhone uploads.
    Ed2: ooh! Might be an assassin bug nymph, which might really hurt if it was older. Good thing we didn’t play with it too much and put it back on a nearby tree after pictures.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    It's a Zelus luridus nymph, aka Pale Green Assassin bug, So your guess of an assassin bug nymph is correct.
    The easiest way to tell the difference is that walking sticks have a very long distance between each pair of legs, while assassin bug nymphs have their legs clustered in a more normal insect manner.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Not asking for ID's, just thought people here might enjoy this weird video YouTube recommended after I watched one of those stick bug meme videos.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ogBK4NmtE&feature=emb_rel_end

    Edit: although, if someone happens to know what species the big one on the far left, and the little one in the center are, I'd be interested (kind of surprised the video description doesn't say).

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Not asking for ID's, just thought people here might enjoy this weird video YouTube recommended after I watched one of those stick bug meme videos.

    Edit: although, if someone happens to know what species the big one on the far left, and the little one in the center are, I'd be interested (kind of surprised the video description doesn't say).

    I think that's a devil's flower mantis (Idolomantis diabolica). Mantids are my favorite insects, and that's my favorite mantis.

    edit: the one on the left that is.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Not asking for ID's, just thought people here might enjoy this weird video YouTube recommended after I watched one of those stick bug meme videos.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ogBK4NmtE&feature=emb_rel_end

    Edit: although, if someone happens to know what species the big one on the far left, and the little one in the center are, I'd be interested (kind of surprised the video description doesn't say).

    I love the green one on the right,

    What are we doing guys? Posing? ok !!!!

    *looks around again*

    Still posing? you sure? ok, I guess

    *poses again*

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Yeah mantids are basically the insect version of cats. Graceful and terrifying predators, but also kind of dumb and cute. Those mantids in the video are all terrified though. The only reason they're not attacking one another is, they're trying to defend themselves against an even bigger predator, the camera man. In my opinion it's not right to subject them to that kind of treatment.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Aw, crud. Didn't know any of that.

    The channel it's on has a whole bunch of videos showing different arthropods, so I'd just assumed they were some kind of professional handler or something.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Speaking of mantids, we had a visitor the other day. Spent all day on our window, moved on overnight to places unknown.
    Morning:

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    Nighttime:

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    S/he's gorgeous.

    Like some other ambush predator insects and spiders, they have the ability to enter a kind of standby mode where their metabolism and energy consumption is next to zero. Yet they can instantly spring to action at maximum efficiency when they detect prey or a threat. Our electronic technology is still getting there.

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    I see my nerdiness killed this conversation. Story of my life.

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    mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
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    one of three big ladies

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    I'm really curious about that spider. It looks like some kind of orb weaver, but those spike clusters on its front legs are quite peculiar.

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    mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    I was told it was an Neoscona crucifera, the Hentz orb weaver
    we have a bunch of them on our porch

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    mts wrote: »
    I was told it was an Neoscona crucifera, the Hentz orb weaver
    we have a bunch of them on our porch

    Looking at the identification for that species, I'd probably agree with whoever told you that, but I'm not a spider expert by any stretch of the imagination.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Arch wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    I was told it was an Neoscona crucifera, the Hentz orb weaver
    we have a bunch of them on our porch

    Looking at the identification for that species, I'd probably agree with whoever told you that, but I'm not a spider expert by any stretch of the imagination.

    That's for sure, I've seen you play your Widow in City of Heroes

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    Here are a couple cool bugs I have seen recently.
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    Lens says: this moth is Haematopis grataria, the chickweed geometer. It has feathery antennae, which probably means it's male

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    Lens says: this butterfly is Limenitis arthemis, the "red-spotted purple" (this one) or "white admiral". Apparently there are two fairly distinct patterns for this species, based on location, but the groups overlap so there are lots of hybrids in between. They're also pretty cool because light interacts with them in tricky ways, from many angles they just appear black or dark blue. Took me a bit to get an angle that would show the colors and pattern.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
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    Lens says: this butterfly is Limenitis arthemis, the "red-spotted purple" (this one) or "white admiral". Apparently there are two fairly distinct patterns for this species, based on location, but the groups overlap so there are lots of hybrids in between. They're also pretty cool because light interacts with them in tricky ways, from many angles they just appear black or dark blue. Took me a bit to get an angle that would show the colors and pattern.

    Limenitis arthemis. ssp. astyanax. Red spotted purple (not a hybrid). They're only called white admirals when they have that characteristic white stripe further in on their wings (which this specimen lacks).
    This particular pattern is more common around Georgia, but you can find it anywhere in South-eastern United states.

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    This particular arthemis was also interesting because the right rear wing was pretty much entirely missing, presumably due to a close call with a predator. Wiki says the red-spotted purple patterning is an attempted mimic of the "unpalatable" pipevine swallowtail (Battus philenor). If the missing wing was due to a predator, mimic fail, I guess?

    It still seemed to be moving around ok, though.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Well, mimicry isn't like...an innate thing. Birds aren't born knowing that the toxic or unpalatable organisms shouldn't be messed with. The evolutionary game that's played is "Do more mimics survive if they can exploit learned behaviors in predators than not?" and so far the answer is "yes".

    But quite a few mimics still die because predators either haven't encountered the true form, or the predators are desperate enough to take a swing.

    I'm pretty impressed at how close Lens got on those identifications, to be honest. I'll need to play around.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    glad this thread is still going! would anyone be able to ID this? afraid it might be a roach nymph:

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    It's a roach nymph. Specificly it's a Luridiblatta trivittata, a roach that has only recently migrated from the mediterranean (in the last 15 years).

    However, you're lucky! They don't form indoor colonies and only wander in from your garden occasionally to seek shelter. So you don't need to tear your kitchen apart (but you might want to do an extra careful cleaning under the sink and fridge). Also. They're super fond of sugary foods, so sugar-water (or even better, fruit juice) is pretty good bait if you want to trap and get rid of any indoor vagabonds.

    P.S: After looking at some images. It's an adult since it's one of the wingless species.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    glad this thread is still going! would anyone be able to ID this? afraid it might be a roach nymph:
    It's a roach nymph. Specificly it's a Luridiblatta trivittata, a roach that has only recently migrated from the mediterranean (in the last 15 years).

    However, you're lucky! They don't form indoor colonies and only wander in from your garden occasionally to seek shelter. So you don't need to tear your kitchen apart (but you might want to do an extra careful cleaning under the sink and fridge). Also. They're super fond of sugary foods, so sugar-water (or even better, fruit juice) is pretty good bait if you want to trap and get rid of any indoor vagabonds.

    P.S: After looking at some images. It's an adult since it's one of the wingless species.

    we've seen four of these in the past week, and we just had a hellish heat wave here the week before. they probably are inside now seeking shelter?

    thanks for the ID! we keep things pretty clean, so were surprised to see a cockroach of any kind.

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Most likely yes. If you keep your kitchen clean they're most likely in there looking for moisture.

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