It's always a bit weird that RB Leipzig is so hated for being a company club when several of the well established Bundesliga clubs are completely or partially company owned, like Wolfsburg with VW and Leverkusen with Bayer.
It's always a bit weird that RB Leipzig is so hated for being a company club when several of the well established Bundesliga clubs are completely or partially company owned, like Wolfsburg with VW and Leverkusen with Bayer.
It is to do with the 51% rule. German football clubs are required to have at least 51% of the club owned by fans/public. Red Bull Leipzig have gotten around this by having their membership be extremely expensive and not giving voting rights to the vast majority of members. So technically they are within the rules but not really.
The two clubs you mention are owned by companies and have an exemption from those rules (along with Hoffenheim).
It's always a bit weird that RB Leipzig is so hated for being a company club when several of the well established Bundesliga clubs are completely or partially company owned, like Wolfsburg with VW and Leverkusen with Bayer.
Germans don't like them either but they're not skirting the 50+1 rule.
The reason they're tolerated is because Wolfsburg and Bayer were part of the community and formed specifically by and for the workers there. Leverkusen was founded by 170 workers in the plants.
Red Bull is just a drinks conglomerate who don't give two shits about Leipzig and would have set up literally anywhere else that would have made them more money, which goes against the community ethos of German football.
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in terms of hatred it goes RB -> Hoffenheim -> Wolfsburg -> Leverkusen
Even climbers who take Red Bull sponsorship are considered like, sliiiiightly sell out-y even though that basically means you get 50p and a can of vimto for your trouble
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Premier League fixture list is out. We've got Spurs on Boxing Day and Man U on the last day of the season. December looks a bit tricky but the tough matches are generally spread out for us, which is nice (barring a one two punch of City and Liverpool right after each other).
However, less than eighteen months after the official announcement of the deal, and even before the Chevrolet bowtie logo was supposed to appear on the official Manchester United shirts, General Motors announced it would withdraw Chevrolet from the European market.
The best* goal I ever scored - an absolute rocket from 50 yards out that hovered about ten feet off the ground before curving straight into the top corner - was completely by accident. As a centre-back I was just sprinting towards a cleared ball because if their striker got it first I was done. And he almost did, so I just went in with every intent to hammer it, he ducked out of contact, and I caught it on the hop about a foot off the ground. Among the best hit balls I've ever seen, and a constant shock that I did it.
*I only scored three times in all my amateur play. The other two were taps ins from left-back.
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when was the last time a player at a major club actually went to prison for something like this (aka, something you'd expect them to have a career after and not like Adam Johnson)
i know big Dunc and i think Dennis Wise did some time for assault, but both of those things happened in the country they were actually playing in and their sentences were massively reduced
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It is to do with the 51% rule. German football clubs are required to have at least 51% of the club owned by fans/public. Red Bull Leipzig have gotten around this by having their membership be extremely expensive and not giving voting rights to the vast majority of members. So technically they are within the rules but not really.
The two clubs you mention are owned by companies and have an exemption from those rules (along with Hoffenheim).
Germans don't like them either but they're not skirting the 50+1 rule.
The reason they're tolerated is because Wolfsburg and Bayer were part of the community and formed specifically by and for the workers there. Leverkusen was founded by 170 workers in the plants.
Red Bull is just a drinks conglomerate who don't give two shits about Leipzig and would have set up literally anywhere else that would have made them more money, which goes against the community ethos of German football.
Probably.
Even climbers who take Red Bull sponsorship are considered like, sliiiiightly sell out-y even though that basically means you get 50p and a can of vimto for your trouble
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I'm not liking the look of that
big joy division vibe off this
They should get like, Kalashnikov to sponsor them or something
its the last year of the Chevvy deal
apparently the deal was so bad for Chevvy, they fired the person responsible
Ooops.
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here's my local team missing a penalty and scoring a rebound last season from the pov of our biggest rivals
the comedic timing is just *chef's kiss*
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number one is eternally John Terry getting wrecked in Heathrow and insulting some grieving American tourists on September 12th 2001
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Wasn't Frank Lampard also involved as well?
yeah it was Terry, Lampard, Jody Morris and Eidur Gudjohnsen
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very intentional goal here
*I only scored three times in all my amateur play. The other two were taps ins from left-back.
Well, let's hope Barca had the forsight to put that money aside.
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Add Neymar crying and refusing to collect his runners up medal spat for extra sweetness.
I have no idea how this will pan out in the end, but crikey.
Drank so much that he punched police
80 million down the drain
Slabhead Harry strikes again
Dang. Southgate putting him in the squad seems a tad optimistic now.
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i know big Dunc and i think Dennis Wise did some time for assault, but both of those things happened in the country they were actually playing in and their sentences were massively reduced
i've actually no idea what might happen now
I'm sure that won't bring the knobheads out of the woodwork. Well, further out of the woodwork than a typical England fixture, anyway.
united's defence, perfectly balanced as all things should be