For real though did she start the cops, or was she just going around ‘solving problems’ and when a few people questioned her, she just said she was the captain. What of?, they replied. She shrugged and mumbled some stuff, and they joined her on her ‘quest for justice’ which for the first few years involved them making her tea and sweeping her yard.
Toph becoming a head cop definitely makes sense because it’s really the only role in Republic City, other than President or the Avatar, that comes with the least constraints. Who watches the Watchmen and all that.
It’s also why she’s basically an absentee parent and only reconciles LONG after they’ve grown and they know that she can’t be counted on for anything. Even parental or familial constraints are too much for her.
Toph likes fighting, so going into a profession where she can legally beat people up sounds like her.
I can believe it wasnt intentional on her part like she was training metal benders for the police force and at some point she became the head of it and she decided to stick around
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ATLA was definitely better overall by providing an actual overall story and giving the characters the space to breathe and change over time. But Korra as a character is better than Aang as a character. Got kind of annoyed of each season of Korra being basically "hey let's fight a new guy with another extremist ideology designed to upset the ongoing power structures so that Korra has to fight FOR those power structures" but also maybe sees that the ideologies are kind of right? Idon't know
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Yeah I don't think it's actually more complicated than they wanted to have a police chief character for their city focused narrative
So they found a way to tie her in to the overarching plot
Also a lot of people have overall positive feelings towards cops, especially before some of the more recent police riots
Yeah I don't think it's actually more complicated than they wanted to have a police chief character for their city focused narrative
So they found a way to tie her in to the overarching plot
Also a lot of people have overall positive feelings towards cops, especially before some of the more recent police riots
I could be wrong because it was like a decade ago but I don't recall any major discussion about whether Toph would have become a cop when the show released.
Given the parental issues it makes more sense that Lin joined to spite Toph
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More Korra cop stuff:
I've seen the argument that Aang and the rest were trying to put things back together in the wake of the 100 Years War, and that being effective at fighting a war doesn't guarantee being effective at governing.
It makes sense to me that Aang was desperate for his Republic City to work, so he asked Toph to handle the police force because he could trust her, not because she would be good at designing and running the police.
I've seen the argument that Aang and the rest were trying to put things back together in the wake of the 100 Years War, and that being effective at fighting a war doesn't guarantee being effective at governing.
It makes sense to me that Aang was desperate for his Republic City to work, so he asked Toph to handle the police force because he could trust her, not because she would be good at designing and running the police.
That and
Toph is arguably the strongest of Team Boomeraang; no better person to be in charge of the "fuck around and find out" squad.
Finished season 2 of Korra. Lots of stuff I liked there upon rewatch, but it also felt like the writers had a lot of ideas and no idea where to put it so they just tossed everything at the wall.
Also at the end
Korra gives a speech about how the two Water Tribes are not independent and also the spirit portals will stay open and she will use the spirit of Ranja for good.
do you think like 80-95% of the people in attendance had no idea what the fuck was going on? I would have loved to see her have to explain to Bei-Fong and the President about how the giant energy version of her came to be in the harbor of Republic City.
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Man Korra season 3 just wastes no fuckin time getting started huh
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Man Korra season 3 just wastes no fuckin time getting started huh
HENRY FUCKIN ROLLINS, BRO
I could listen to a Henry Rollins quote fake philosophy all day long.
I'm not even to this part of Korra yet but I clicked agree because I already know I do
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Korra S3 episode 12
There’s uh
Quite a lot of uh
People dying gruesomely and just off screen this season, huh
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
People dying gruesomely and just off screen this season, huh
Rewatching the series again, there's a huge change between S2 where you see parachutes in the background to show that people survive, and S3 where people get straight up murdered.
They ALMOST get it right this time. For like 2/3rds of the season the villains are mostly right. Maybe not doing it in the best way but they are right to be taking out corrupt world leaders, and freeing people. They are all interesting and are shown to even actually be ya know, people, and not just cartoon mustache twirling bad guys. They have depth for like a second. Then they decide to wipe out an entire group of people and destroy the Avatar because of reasons.
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edited August 2020
IIRC Season 3 was also the season where (Relationships spoiler)
Korrasami grew from being what in shipping parlance call a "crack-ship" to something approaching legitimacy, and got a legit (or at least, retroactively legit) bone to chew on.
Seems like people really forced the Korra-Asami thing to be a thing. Really isn't much there
In the context of the media landscape of the time, where you were lucky to even get a scrap of gay subtext in a kid's cartoon, it was definitely a noticeable thing.
Seems like people really forced the Korra-Asami thing to be a thing. Really isn't much there
In the context of the media landscape of the time, where you were lucky to even get a scrap of gay subtext in a kid's cartoon, it was definitely a noticeable thing.
I might be watching it with an anachronistic lens but it feels like some really sub sub subtext then
Like the notes and the care Asami showed her more simplistically reads like friends than anything else
Seems like people really forced the Korra-Asami thing to be a thing. Really isn't much there
In the context of the media landscape of the time, where you were lucky to even get a scrap of gay subtext in a kid's cartoon, it was definitely a noticeable thing.
I'm not sure I even agree. I mean, it was slim pickings, but Korra was doing even less in that regard than its contemporaries. Mid-series Adventure Time was already a bit gayer than Korra by the time Korra S4 ended, and Steven Universe had already started running and was a few scant months away from really going full bore. (This was also around the same time as The Dumbledore Tweet, which frankly might be the more apt comparison in terms of the amount of credit I'm inclined to give).
Watching it for the first time recently, I expected virtually nothing and got even less. You can't just have two women who barely spoke across four seasons suddenly hold hands in the last eight seconds of the series and say "look, representation!" It doesn't really land. And that's me as a lesbian talking.
They spent a good chunk of season three having Korra and Asami bond, and they had plenty of actual signs in season four. Korra only wrote to Asami when she was recovering, for one, and the episode where Korra meets up with Mako and Asami is loaded enough with subtext that Mako even comments on it, plus they get a whole segment to themselves in the clip show episode, before their big talk at the end of the series. It's, admittedly, not a lot, but it's definitely romantic in nature. It is definitely worth noting that both of the creators of the show know that they didn't do enough, but people were actively picking up on this stuff as the show aired.
I don't know if it's fair to say Adventure Time was doing more at the time, they...had one real episode that hinted at anything, and then they had to run screaming away from it for years. Steven Universe still hadn't really committed to anything until a few months after Legend of Korra ended, and they still had to fight pretty hard for that. And even then, with both Adventure Time and Steven Universe, the LGBT relationships did not involve the main character show.
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Hey can y'all please spoiler tag your stuff?
I know like, most of this stuff through cultural osmosis, but definitely not all of it
They spent a good chunk of season three having Korra and Asami bond, and they had plenty of actual signs in season four. Korra only wrote to Asami when she was recovering, for one, and the episode where Korra meets up with Mako and Asami is loaded enough with subtext that Mako even comments on it, plus they get a whole segment to themselves in the clip show episode, before their big talk at the end of the series. It's, admittedly, not a lot, but it's definitely romantic in nature. It is definitely worth noting that both of the creators of the show know that they didn't do enough, but people were actively picking up on this stuff as the show aired.
I don't know if it's fair to say Adventure Time was doing more at the time, they...had one real episode that hinted at anything, and then they had to run screaming away from it for years. Steven Universe still hadn't really committed to anything until a few months after Legend of Korra ended, and they still had to fight pretty hard for that. And even then, with both Adventure Time and Steven Universe, the LGBT relationships did not involve the main character show.
Mako has zero emotional intelligence, Bolin is oblivious across the board, and Korra subconsciously resents the people taking care of her; Korra doesn't need to have a crush on Asami to recognize that she's the only viable outlet for any sort of serious feelings discussion. And Asami doesn't need to have a crush on Korra to reciprocate an injured, isolated friend's need for attention. Plus, y'know, it's pretty typical for women to be more at ease with other women just in general. I wouldn't have read it as romantic at all if I hadn't been told in advance that Korra/Asami ended up being a Thing somehow. And it doesn't build up from or into anything. Do Korra and Asami even have more than one substantiative scene together between then and the denouement?
I can't recall any specific interaction between Korra and Asami in season 3 period. And I just saw it a month ago, and I was keeping an eye out for lesbian stuff explicitly.
I absolutely would call What Was Missing gayer than Legend of Korra. I regret using the word "slightly", even. It has more verisimilitude even if it's technically less explicit. I'm struggling to even call planning a vacation and then holding hands for a quick sec "explicit". For all I remembered everyone getting into a tizzy over it at the time I assumed they must have at least kissed. Imagine my surprise when I finally saw it.
I suspect that if you asked the creators they would agree that they didn't deserve point for representation. I remember interviews where they sounded apologetic or mad. More than other shows I believe them when they say that it was the best they were allowed to do because they also seemed to agree that if was not nearly enough.
They spent a good chunk of season three having Korra and Asami bond, and they had plenty of actual signs in season four. Korra only wrote to Asami when she was recovering, for one, and the episode where Korra meets up with Mako and Asami is loaded enough with subtext that Mako even comments on it, plus they get a whole segment to themselves in the clip show episode, before their big talk at the end of the series. It's, admittedly, not a lot, but it's definitely romantic in nature. It is definitely worth noting that both of the creators of the show know that they didn't do enough, but people were actively picking up on this stuff as the show aired.
I don't know if it's fair to say Adventure Time was doing more at the time, they...had one real episode that hinted at anything, and then they had to run screaming away from it for years. Steven Universe still hadn't really committed to anything until a few months after Legend of Korra ended, and they still had to fight pretty hard for that. And even then, with both Adventure Time and Steven Universe, the LGBT relationships did not involve the main character show.
Mako has zero emotional intelligence, Bolin is oblivious across the board, and Korra subconsciously resents the people taking care of her; Korra doesn't need to have a crush on Asami to recognize that she's the only viable outlet for any sort of serious feelings discussion. And Asami doesn't need to have a crush on Korra to reciprocate an injured, isolated friend's need for attention. Plus, y'know, it's pretty typical for women to be more at ease with other women just in general. I wouldn't have read it as romantic at all if I hadn't been told in advance that Korra/Asami ended up being a Thing somehow. And it doesn't build up from or into anything. Do Korra and Asami even have more than one substantiative scene together between then and the denouement?
I can't recall any specific interaction between Korra and Asami in season 3 period. And I just saw it a month ago, and I was keeping an eye out for lesbian stuff explicitly.
I absolutely would call What Was Missing gayer than Legend of Korra. I regret using the word "slightly", even. It has more verisimilitude even if it's technically less explicit. I'm struggling to even call planning a vacation and then holding hands for a quick sec "explicit". For all I remembered everyone getting into a tizzy over it at the time I assumed they must have at least kissed. Imagine my surprise when I finally saw it.
what was missing probably was gayer, but they got in a lot of trouble for having anyone acknowledge it as such
as far as korra and asami in season three...asami teaches korra to drive, they team up to dunk on mako a few times, asami watches over korra as she meditates in the spirit world, asami and korra escape the red lotus together, then team up to escape capture in an airship, then they team up to escape the desert, and asami is helping korra get ready at the end of the season for jinora's ceremony
it's not all coded as romantic, but some of it is, and they spend a good chunk of that season working together in some way
Wasn't there a whole thing where Olivia Olson was basically forced to walk back comments about What Was Missing having queer subtext and then was kept from doing any press stuff for a while?
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It’s also why she’s basically an absentee parent and only reconciles LONG after they’ve grown and they know that she can’t be counted on for anything. Even parental or familial constraints are too much for her.
Well certainly not Toph
I can believe it wasnt intentional on her part like she was training metal benders for the police force and at some point she became the head of it and she decided to stick around
Maybe it was just a Lady Justice reference.
They wanted the cops to be metal benders
Toph invented metal bending
Ergo, Toph invented the metal bending cops
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So they found a way to tie her in to the overarching plot
Also a lot of people have overall positive feelings towards cops, especially before some of the more recent police riots
I could be wrong because it was like a decade ago but I don't recall any major discussion about whether Toph would have become a cop when the show released.
It makes sense to me that Aang was desperate for his Republic City to work, so he asked Toph to handle the police force because he could trust her, not because she would be good at designing and running the police.
Also at the end
do you think like 80-95% of the people in attendance had no idea what the fuck was going on? I would have loved to see her have to explain to Bei-Fong and the President about how the giant energy version of her came to be in the harbor of Republic City.
HENRY FUCKIN ROLLINS, BRO
Are you even untethered bro?
I could listen to a Henry Rollins quote fake philosophy all day long.
I'm not even to this part of Korra yet but I clicked agree because I already know I do
Quite a lot of uh
People dying gruesomely and just off screen this season, huh
Rewatching the series again, there's a huge change between S2 where you see parachutes in the background to show that people survive, and S3 where people get straight up murdered.
Coran Attack!
They almost got it.
There is absolutely at least a bit in season 3 and 4.
“Wait a minute.... am I crazy or...”
Like the notes and the care Asami showed her more simplistically reads like friends than anything else
Watching it for the first time recently, I expected virtually nothing and got even less. You can't just have two women who barely spoke across four seasons suddenly hold hands in the last eight seconds of the series and say "look, representation!" It doesn't really land. And that's me as a lesbian talking.
I don't know if it's fair to say Adventure Time was doing more at the time, they...had one real episode that hinted at anything, and then they had to run screaming away from it for years. Steven Universe still hadn't really committed to anything until a few months after Legend of Korra ended, and they still had to fight pretty hard for that. And even then, with both Adventure Time and Steven Universe, the LGBT relationships did not involve the main character show.
I know like, most of this stuff through cultural osmosis, but definitely not all of it
I can't recall any specific interaction between Korra and Asami in season 3 period. And I just saw it a month ago, and I was keeping an eye out for lesbian stuff explicitly.
I absolutely would call What Was Missing gayer than Legend of Korra. I regret using the word "slightly", even. It has more verisimilitude even if it's technically less explicit. I'm struggling to even call planning a vacation and then holding hands for a quick sec "explicit". For all I remembered everyone getting into a tizzy over it at the time I assumed they must have at least kissed. Imagine my surprise when I finally saw it.
as far as korra and asami in season three...asami teaches korra to drive, they team up to dunk on mako a few times, asami watches over korra as she meditates in the spirit world, asami and korra escape the red lotus together, then team up to escape capture in an airship, then they team up to escape the desert, and asami is helping korra get ready at the end of the season for jinora's ceremony
it's not all coded as romantic, but some of it is, and they spend a good chunk of that season working together in some way