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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    G2 vs FNC always delivers and so far today is no different.

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    G2 FNC
    Dont like fnc draft in game 5. Think they threw the game right there

  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    This game is amazing

  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    These teams suck, but this sure is entertaining!

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    These teams suck, but this sure is entertaining!

    ???? Do you mean individual picks or the teams? Because these are two of the best in the world. G2 was at finals last year and won msi.

  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    They both looked horrible in the series. China will destroy them.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    These teams suck, but this sure is entertaining!

    ???? Do you mean individual picks or the teams? Because these are two of the best in the world. G2 was at finals last year and won msi.
    Historically, these teams have been very good, but they’ve both looked significantly worse this season and this series was an absolute clusterfuck

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Those are some opinions.

  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Game one minute one c9 vs tsm. How does that not go in c9 favor?

  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    I said it when he was with tsm. Zven sucks.
    Caught face checking as ezereal in a playoff game again? At least its not finals but this is for worlds

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Also bjergson looks weird without the beard

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Zven is very much the weak point of C9. If they get bounced by TSM here, I wonder if they look to make that change to bring in an ADC who can be a threat.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Nisqy's the weakest link imo. He seems to function well within a team that's firing on all cylinders, but when they come back down to earth somewhat in macro, he gets exposed by more talented lane opponents.

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    C9 tsm
    Early game 2, c9 continues to look like shit. What happened to them?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Sometimes you just gotta let the other team have the objective.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    My solo queue teammates insist otherwise

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    C9 is completely broken at this point
    Licorice is getting solo killed by Broken Blade, who's the weakest member of TSM. Not looking good for the winners of Spring Split.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited August 29
    LCS
    This is mostly not sour grapes, but I really hate how the LCS Spring Split doesn't count for Worlds. Unlike Doublelift, I think the split should matter.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    C9 in general
    I honestly think they need to make a ton of changes this offseason, and not just with the roster. The coaching and drafting has been abysmal, culminating in a do-or-die series against TSM where C9 got outdrafted and out-item'd fairly easily in each of their losses.

    Nisqy fit really well when C9 focused on being aggressive and making plays, but as soon as the other team plays a strat that makes that difficult/is smart about objectives, it ends up highlighting his flaws. Zven is...just not great when the lights are shining? C9 has an actual answer there in that they could always go back to Sneaky and let him play with an actually-good support in Vulcan. Blabber and Licorice feel very hit or miss.

    The organization really feels like the got complacent after Spring, and while everyone else adapted, C9 never did, and now it's costing them a trip to Worlds.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I don't think people should let Bjerg have Xilean.

    Hot take, I know.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    I honestly think they need to make a ton of changes this offseason, and not just with the roster. The coaching and drafting has been abysmal, culminating in a do-or-die series against TSM where C9 got outdrafted and out-item'd fairly easily in each of their losses.

    Nisqy fit really well when C9 focused on being aggressive and making plays, but as soon as the other team plays a strat that makes that difficult/is smart about objectives, it ends up highlighting his flaws. Zven is...just not great when the lights are shining? C9 has an actual answer there in that they could always go back to Sneaky and let him play with an actually-good support in Vulcan. Blabber and Licorice feel very hit or miss.

    The organization really feels like the got complacent after Spring, and while everyone else adapted, C9 never did, and now it's costing them a trip to Worlds.

    Building on that, a little
    Cloud9 in the spring seemed more aggressive and innovative, trying to push people out of their comfort zone, and you can even look at this series for examples if you want. Game 2 they played a Lillia that was probably a flex pick, and the pivotal Game 4 they...somewhat copied TSM's comp from the previous game. It felt like they stopped trying new things, and so it was hard for me to even cheer for them when it felt like they were struggling so much.

    I really hope Licorice stays. :(

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular

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  • PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »

    Her play-style looks unique. She looks like KatrinaXSivir.

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    I don't think people should let Bjerg have Xilean.

    Hot take, I know.

    He's got a 75% competitive winrate on the champ. But against C9, what else could they do? Ban the Zilean and let through what?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    75% winrate is insane

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  • Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    edited August 30
    Nirya wrote: »
    C9 is completely broken at this point
    Licorice is getting solo killed by Broken Blade, who's the weakest member of TSM. Not looking good for the winners of Spring Split.
    I know it's easy to believe TSM have decided to play without a jungler this split, but Spica is definitely technically a member of the team and it's a bit rude to pretend he doesn't exist like this :bzz:

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    Rogue shit down Mad Lions' throats and that makes me sad. It's okay Mad, I still believe in you guys even if watching you in play offs has been a bit painful.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited August 30
    LCS
    At least I can appreciate C9 White

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  • PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    NA LCS
    That was a hell of a series. Tactical in game 4 put on some humungous carry pants.

    I look forward to next weekends finals.

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    75% winrate is insane

    Yeah, but it's not like he doesnt have any other champs. The series before this their opponents 5 banned bjergsen one game and he did just fine. It's not a winning strategy.

    Golden Guardians first run at them was the best. Just don't put attention mid, keep up and keep him from roaming. Slam another lane.

    TSM countered by bringing back Biofrost and putting brokenblade on a carry so Spica would cover him. I'm not a TSM fan but they are looking a lot better than they have been.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    75% winrate is insane

    Yeah, but it's not like he doesnt have any other champs. The series before this their opponents 5 banned bjergsen one game and he did just fine. It's not a winning strategy.

    Golden Guardians first run at them was the best. Just don't put attention mid, keep up and keep him from roaming. Slam another lane.

    TSM countered by bringing back Biofrost and putting brokenblade on a carry so Spica would cover him. I'm not a TSM fan but they are looking a lot better than they have been.

    I am familiar with drafting strategy. I was pretty competitive in HotS until recently, and I have been on both sides of dealing with problem champs. The thing is that you should rarely devote all your bans to isolating a single, versatile player. But also you don't let them have the champ they have a 75+% winrate on.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited August 31
    So, uh, I've never played LoL. I kinda stumbled into this thread's predecessor a month ago, and have been following since more out of curiosity than anything else.

    Someone in the chat thread mentioned a "raven guy" and since I think corvids are really cool I tried to look it up. Presumably they meant Swain?

    What are soul charges? They're mentioned in a few of his ability descriptions, but not what they are for.

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    75% winrate is insane

    Yeah, but it's not like he doesnt have any other champs. The series before this their opponents 5 banned bjergsen one game and he did just fine. It's not a winning strategy.

    Golden Guardians first run at them was the best. Just don't put attention mid, keep up and keep him from roaming. Slam another lane.

    TSM countered by bringing back Biofrost and putting brokenblade on a carry so Spica would cover him. I'm not a TSM fan but they are looking a lot better than they have been.

    I am familiar with drafting strategy. I was pretty competitive in HotS until recently, and I have been on both sides of dealing with problem champs. The thing is that you should rarely devote all your bans to isolating a single, versatile player. But also you don't let them have the champ they have a 75+% winrate on.

    What was TSM's winrate in general during that time? TSM is often pretty dominant so it's hard to disentangle an individual person's performance from the team's winrate. Like in an extreme example, if C9 loses 0 games during a season, their mid has 100% winrate with all champions that season, but that doesn't mean much.

    That said, Bjergsen is SO GOOD at Zilean and I have been noticing in playoffs that a bunch of bans are directed at him and Zil is often one of them.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    75% winrate is insane

    Yeah, but it's not like he doesnt have any other champs. The series before this their opponents 5 banned bjergsen one game and he did just fine. It's not a winning strategy.

    Golden Guardians first run at them was the best. Just don't put attention mid, keep up and keep him from roaming. Slam another lane.

    TSM countered by bringing back Biofrost and putting brokenblade on a carry so Spica would cover him. I'm not a TSM fan but they are looking a lot better than they have been.

    I am familiar with drafting strategy. I was pretty competitive in HotS until recently, and I have been on both sides of dealing with problem champs. The thing is that you should rarely devote all your bans to isolating a single, versatile player. But also you don't let them have the champ they have a 75+% winrate on.

    What was TSM's winrate in general during that time? TSM is often pretty dominant so it's hard to disentangle an individual person's performance from the team's winrate. Like in an extreme example, if C9 loses 0 games during a season, their mid has 100% winrate with all champions that season, but that doesn't mean much.

    That said, Bjergsen is SO GOOD at Zilean and I have been noticing in playoffs that a bunch of bans are directed at him and Zil is often one of them.

    I have no idea about the win rates, Moridin is the one that brought it up. 75% winrate is just insane considering any significant amount of data.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, uh, I've never played LoL. I kinda stumbled into this thread's predecessor a month ago, and have been following since more out of curiosity than anything else.

    Someone in the chat thread mentioned a "raven guy" and since I think corvids are really cool I tried to look it up. Presumably they meant Swain?

    What are soul charges? They're mentioned in a few of his ability descriptions, but not what they are for.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Cool, thanks.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    So, uh, I've never played LoL. I kinda stumbled into this thread's predecessor a month ago, and have been following since more out of curiosity than anything else.

    Someone in the chat thread mentioned a "raven guy" and since I think corvids are really cool I tried to look it up. Presumably they meant Swain?

    What are soul charges? They're mentioned in a few of his ability descriptions, but not what they are for.

    You get them by hitting people with (some of) his other abilities or collecting them from dead champions, too.

    Give the game a try, though! For my money it's the best video game. (And I've put enough money in it, I reckon.) There are a decent number of us hanging around the thread, and I'm always happy to play with new folks.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah I’m in a similar boat, I am learning this game (though I do have experience with other MOBAs) so feel free to hit me up if you want to play

    I would suggest downloading the blitz program if you wanna play the game, though. It will automatically set your runes for you and give you suggested buy orders and talent allocations.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Yeah I’m in a similar boat, I am learning this game (though I do have experience with other MOBAs) so feel free to hit me up if you want to play

    I would suggest downloading the blitz program if you wanna play the game, though. It will automatically set your runes for you and give you suggested buy orders and talent allocations.

    Additional disclaimer: munkus is nowhere near the "noob" that he should be based on little experience :P

    I didn't even say this earlier, but I do like Swain. He's a good solo laner or support, and being able to play a champion in multiple positions usually adds to the appeal (at least for me).

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    Yeah I’m in a similar boat, I am learning this game (though I do have experience with other MOBAs) so feel free to hit me up if you want to play

    I would suggest downloading the blitz program if you wanna play the game, though. It will automatically set your runes for you and give you suggested buy orders and talent allocations.

    Additional disclaimer: munkus is nowhere near the "noob" that he should be based on little experience :P

    I didn't even say this earlier, but I do like Swain. He's a good solo laner or support, and being able to play a champion in multiple positions usually adds to the appeal (at least for me).

    I mean, I was Masters and near Grandmasters in HotS and some of that translates, but I still don’t know the abilities of 80% of the champs and items.

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