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Let's Talk About [2020 Elections] Like Grownups!
ElJeffe
Moderator, ClubPA mod
Moderator, ClubPA mod
This here is your official thread for discussing the great basket of wonder and joy that is the upcoming 2020 election.
What You Can Talk About:
- Any national or local 2020 US election.
- The impact of the conventions that just happened.
- The policy platforms of candidates AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE ELECTIONS. "Biden plans to roll out a public option" is okay. "A public option is awesome because of X,Y, and Z" is not.
- Polls related to the election.
- Voting outreach efforts
- Other things that directly pertain to the 2020 election and have not been explicitly banned.
What You Can't Talk About:
- The 2020 primaries that have already occurred. Upcoming 2020 primaries, if there are any left, are okay.
- Bernie Sanders
- 20-motherfucking-16
- Hillary Fucking Clinton
- Policy in general. This is not the place to discuss health care or taxes or policing in general. We have threads for all those things! If not, feel free to make one!
- Who you plan to personally vote for. Nothing good has ever come from a conversation in these threads about why you're definitely voting for Biden / voting third party / not voting. Just rest assured that your personal reasons for voting are the best in the whole world and everyone agrees with you and thinks you're smart and good looking. Masterfully done, you.
If you have previously been banned from this thread, you are still banned from this thread, sorry. Rest assured you can participate in discussions when 2024 rolls around, assuming elections are still a thing that exists in that far away time.
What You Can Talk About:
- Any national or local 2020 US election.
- The impact of the conventions that just happened.
- The policy platforms of candidates AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE ELECTIONS. "Biden plans to roll out a public option" is okay. "A public option is awesome because of X,Y, and Z" is not.
- Polls related to the election.
- Voting outreach efforts
- Other things that directly pertain to the 2020 election and have not been explicitly banned.
What You Can't Talk About:
- The 2020 primaries that have already occurred. Upcoming 2020 primaries, if there are any left, are okay.
- Bernie Sanders
- 20-motherfucking-16
- Hillary Fucking Clinton
- Policy in general. This is not the place to discuss health care or taxes or policing in general. We have threads for all those things! If not, feel free to make one!
- Who you plan to personally vote for. Nothing good has ever come from a conversation in these threads about why you're definitely voting for Biden / voting third party / not voting. Just rest assured that your personal reasons for voting are the best in the whole world and everyone agrees with you and thinks you're smart and good looking. Masterfully done, you.
If you have previously been banned from this thread, you are still banned from this thread, sorry. Rest assured you can participate in discussions when 2024 rolls around, assuming elections are still a thing that exists in that far away time.
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FIRED UP!
Geth, kick @painfulPleasance from the thread.
On topic:
A quick read through has me as a yes on all the CA propositions, am I missing anything?
The RNC celebrated fascism in all its horrifying glory.
Liberals briefly freaked out because some not high quality polls showed Biden only up like 6 or something.
Today a bunch of very high quality polls came out and they show that literally nothing has moved this race since March. Biden's up high single digits. There was one rough state poll of Pennsylvania, but even in that it's Biden 49-45. Fox has him up 9 in Arizona, 8 in Wisconsin, and 4 in North Carolina, for example. Those polls have Kelly up insurmountably (17) in Arizona and Cunningham up a bit (4) in NC.
Biden took in 364 million in donations and had some really good speeches.
It's been stable so far. Expect pure madness up to the Lovecraftian orgy that the firat debate will bring.
A lone shadowy figure sits in a circle of battered folding chairs, a lit cigarette slowly burns between their fingers.
"Is...is this the election thread?"
The door slams shut behind you, the panic bar locking it into place.
The man takes a drag from his cigarette, illuminating three days of stubble and yellowed teeth.
"We all vote down here"
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I haven't had time yet but I have heard there are some good back and forth there.
Also, Trump's only underwater by 9 points on approval rating now, down from about 15, again it looks like mostly because of Zog and Ras.
I'm trying very hard not to check polls like twice a day, and mostly failing.
But yeah, I think once conventions fade from view, we're back to early August numbers.
Someone at 538 is fucking with the model for fun.
Nice
Unless post office fuckery swings a lot of votes though Trump is going to lose.
+/- like 2 to 3 percent is basically static.
A note from Silver that should scare you:
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-10-18
I won't feel comfortable until like, February and won't like polls that aren't Biden +20 or something but do pay attention to trend not wobble folks!
I'm tired of being scared. I haven't seen Biden winning with less than 6 points in a single reliable national poll. In swing states, he's up almost across the board.
Yes the EC is fucky and Trump is obviously cheating. I'm super done with jumping at shadows though.
Kill. Me.
Delaware primary is set for Sept 15.
The last day for absentee ballots to be mailed out to people is September 11.
Absentee ballots for the general election start getting mailed out nationally on September 19.
Delaware has two primary elections each cycle. One for the presidential primary (this was originally in June, but got pushed back to July this year due to Covid) and then the state level primary later on.
I. Am. Dying.
Just send me my fucking ballot already.
Delaware you can get your ballots by post, fax, email, or going to your election office. Your can send them back on the same way.
Also when your apply for your absentee ballot you have the option of making yourself a permanent absentee voter. And no more having to re-register every fucking year.
Which is nice.
Just send me the ballot FFS.
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Rust Belt Republicans are for sure going to turn out due to current events and it seems like the region where it's easiest to fuck with the Democratic base via election fuckery.
Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan being in Democratic hands right now is a fucking huge sigh of relief since we've seen just what a secretary of state can do. Elections have consequences.
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https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-biden-tops-trump-among-likely-voters-in-key-states
Here is a good example.
I think if Biden holds states like WI, MI, and PA states like Florida become icing on the cake. I haven’t played around on 270 to win in a while though.
Another thing that is interesting is not only has Trump starting sleeping on crime/law but also is losing the military.
Last I can recall I did just those 3 plus AZ and NV and I'm pretty sure it made Florida and NC irrelevant.
The canary in the coal mine for those 3 is Michigan being tight.
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There is a California thread, which is likley a better spot to talk more; https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/218402/california-politics-americas-hippie-commune/p19.
Since the propositions are not really being elected.
But, I would say double check these two props, they really aren't no brainers.
CISS Proposition 22 Business Considers app-based drivers to be independent contractors and enacts several labor policies related to app-based companies
Fuck Uber and their bleeding out of drivers, of flagerantly breaking local laws and then trying to use their VC money to say they are above it. Their drivers are controlled by them, they can make them employees or just sell their software to companies that want to have drivers.
CISS Proposition 23 Healthcare Requires physician on-site at dialysis clinics and consent from the state for a clinic to close
From what I've heard, requiring a physician doesn't add much to safety, and consent to close seems really weird to me, I'll need to research more to see if this is really helpful.
I think I'll take my mandatory week off from work during that week. I have a feeling I'm going to be utterly useless.