[WoW Classic] More full servers than Live.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I'd be okay with that timeline

    I'd just like a definitive answer that TBC is 100% going to happen.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    That's like a month early at most.

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  • MercadeMercade Registered User regular
    I think TBC/Wrath are all but guaranteed. The demand seems to be there, and they already did the legwork of getting Classic up on its feet. Adding TBC/Wrath servers should be relatively easy in comparison.

    I think they have to figure out the server population issue, though. It feels like they opened too many extra servers in response to the queues and now some have dreadfully low populations. I think they'll either need to open a smaller number of TBC servers for people to migrate to if they wish, and connect the vanilla realms to address populations, OR do the opposite - make all realms TBC, connect them, and open a couple fresh vanilla realms for the 60-only crowd. I almost prefer the latter; maybe open 1-2 new vanilla realms every 12 months with an adjusted content schedule to fit. I think someone upthread may have likened it to seasons, which I think would pretty neat.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Read an article earlier with a tweet reporting that Naxx would be released in December, with BC beta beginning in March / April. Sooner than expected, but might not be accurate. Still, that isn't too far off from the projections we'd made, so maybe.

    So how long before Classic Classic?

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Mercade wrote: »
    I think they have to figure out the server population issue, though. It feels like they opened too many extra servers in response to the queues and now some have dreadfully low populations. I think they'll either need to open a smaller number of TBC servers for people to migrate to if they wish, and connect the vanilla realms to address populations, OR do the opposite - make all realms TBC, connect them, and open a couple fresh vanilla realms for the 60-only crowd. I almost prefer the latter; maybe open 1-2 new vanilla realms every 12 months with an adjusted content schedule to fit. I think someone upthread may have likened it to seasons, which I think would pretty neat.

    I think the opposite. The problem is servers are TOO packed, and they made bad choices with where when and how they allowed people to do transfers.

    This purposefully created mega-servers to the detriment of normal servers...

    What few normal pop servers exist are actually very pleasant. It's quite stunning how different the game is when the playerbase isn't consuming thousands of arcanite per week or tens of thousands of dreamfoil...

    My proposal

    1) Please, for the love of god, do not carry forward progress to BC, totally new servers plz
    2) Cap populations earlier and more aggressively to spread people around
    3) Faction-restrict new characters as needed. This was never done in Classic and that is stunning to me
    4) Do not allow mass-exodus from PVP servers, instead, give packed servers the ability to flow into smaller servers that need balancing as needed

  • PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    filtering people to a different server is a really challenging task. For the normal user, there's not much incentive and people need a good carrot to volunteer to move somewhere new. What likely should happen is blizzard invest some time and money to identify specific guilds that are active and give them a chance to move the whole guild. even that is problematic because i might be in a guild but play a lot with friends in another guild. Do you move me without consent? Outrage!

    i also hope they do a copy char to TBC server option. Give people that want to stay just in vanilla that option. Segmenting the player base is going to cause a whole new slew of pain though.

  • TurambarTurambar Avocado at law Registered User regular
    If I were them I'd wait for Jan to release Naxx

    If people have time to clear Naxx before Christmas, I can see lots of people not coming back after taking a break for Christmas

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Mercade wrote: »
    I think they have to figure out the server population issue, though. It feels like they opened too many extra servers in response to the queues and now some have dreadfully low populations. I think they'll either need to open a smaller number of TBC servers for people to migrate to if they wish, and connect the vanilla realms to address populations, OR do the opposite - make all realms TBC, connect them, and open a couple fresh vanilla realms for the 60-only crowd. I almost prefer the latter; maybe open 1-2 new vanilla realms every 12 months with an adjusted content schedule to fit. I think someone upthread may have likened it to seasons, which I think would pretty neat.

    I think the opposite. The problem is servers are TOO packed, and they made bad choices with where when and how they allowed people to do transfers.

    This purposefully created mega-servers to the detriment of normal servers...

    What few normal pop servers exist are actually very pleasant. It's quite stunning how different the game is when the playerbase isn't consuming thousands of arcanite per week or tens of thousands of dreamfoil...

    My proposal

    1) Please, for the love of god, do not carry forward progress to BC, totally new servers plz
    2) Cap populations earlier and more aggressively to spread people around
    3) Faction-restrict new characters as needed. This was never done in Classic and that is stunning to me
    4) Do not allow mass-exodus from PVP servers, instead, give packed servers the ability to flow into smaller servers that need balancing as needed

    They were very confident the servers would lose 60%+ of their population and end up somewhere around classic's actual server pops.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    I finally replaced Hammer of grace! Jin'dos hexer might not be much better, but it feels pretty good.

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  • TurambarTurambar Avocado at law Registered User regular
    That's a huge upgrade

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    @bowen was the recipient of a very nice Kalmidor's Revenge tonight and im not jealous at all no sir not me

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    @bowen was the recipient of a very nice Kalmidor's Revenge tonight and im not jealous at all no sir not me

    the notion that you could even be outbid by bowen is impressive on its own

    the dumpster was finally out-dumpstered

  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    reasonably certain bowen clicked !hybrid on that one

    I told frawrst to spec 2h arms and roll !raid on 2handers 'cause there's actually good ones in aq40 that don't immediately get dumpstered

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Yeah that was a hybrid roll lol.

    gonna make all those warriors in stormwind post mean shit about paladins now

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I'm gonna build a +nature damage set so I can do more DPS than elderr does because of the proc rate on that thing.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    ITS REALLY GOOD

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    You know how, if you mouse-over someone, they kind of light up a little? I just realized that, if you do that to a Shadow Priest riding the Scarab Lord mount, the only thing that lights up are the mount's eyes. It reminds me of that "I sleep / real shit??" meme.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    New Mounts: I sleep
    Flying Mounts: What

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I have reached fiery horsie time in the wow classic. now I am a part of civilization

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    your boy hit Exalted in Av today

    don julios and unstoppable in my hands


    mmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    wow classic pvp is fun and dumb

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    has that mage never pvped before or what

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Goddamn, talk about lucky loot nights. DFT, CTS, and Ashkandi all just dropped in the same run tonight.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    It's called ass candy

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Friendship ended with Savage Gladiator Chain, now Breastplate of Annihilation is my best friend.

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Friendship ended with Savage Gladiator Chain, now Breastplate of Annihilation is my best friend.

    We haven't seen one yet but I'm the only SGC owner due to the most ridiculous brd run ever but I also want conq Soley for power rangers and I'll be so close to Crit cap once I get a dark edge and swap to arms with axe spec for the ownage

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    <Reforged Daggers> finally killed C'thun again, woooo

    36 people in the raid and still 2 minutes faster than our first kill, lol. If you're an alliance holy pally, feral druid, or geared dps warrior willing to offtank on occasion, and if you're looking for a home, we could use you!

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    But rius, I am 2 of those things

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  • crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    We had 40 people for the first time in a good while last night!
    Overall a good night. We even 1-shot emps after losing one of our tanks at 30% (somehow we only had 2 healers on that side of the room at the time...)
    We had an hour left after Emps, but the post-emps trash still proves annoying. We had 2 false starts on it when the trash packs multi-pulled. Then the anubisaths we got to seemed to have 3 of the 4 available abilities, instead of just 2? That was neat...
    On the bright side, I've got 2 of my AQ set pieces and we're set up to have some good prog on cthun tonight. Hoping we can get him and Ouro down!

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Fucking finally.

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  • crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Fucking finally.

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    Are you secretly in my raid?
    I swear.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    uhh someone rez that bear?

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    He's sleeping!

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    If you drink margaritas while you raid, you can call it a marga-raid-a!

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    If you drink margaritas while you raid, you can call it a marga-raid-a!

    I had a tank in the train wreck of a guild I was in that about after the first boss would be four sheets to the wind. He did pass out drunk at least 3 times I knew about [I was in that guild from classic to wrath when a chunk of people had enough of the drama and broke off to make their own that guild went belly up in panda}

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Drunk raiding is great fun, as long as you're not the one sober person. Then you just slowly die inside during four hour long ZG runs.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Drunk raiding is great fun, as long as you're not the one sober person. Then you just slowly die inside during four hour long ZG runs.

    When I was with PUG 1 we did Zg in about 2 hours

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